Calling Mayor Rama: Snatchers All Over Cebu City

[onig.heck]

Then why don't you e-mail or talk to Rama about it, if you're really not confident about the city's police force? The people here in Istorya can only side or go against your opinion. That's it. If you want to see some changes, then take action.

OT: check the thread-title mam....

[diatabz]

There's something awfully wrong if the best advice we can give to law-abiding citizens is "be vigilant". People shouldn't be scared of criminals--criminals should be scared of the law.

[honey89]

OT: check the thread-title mam....

So you think this is enough? I don't even think nagbasa si Rama ani (besides he has a lot of things to do than read message boards). That's why I took the initiative to e-mail him. If puwede pa lang, magpaschedule jud ko og meeting. I hope you can do the same.

[SPRINGFIELD_XD_40]

sir... yes i did... i was one of the victims aning mga snatchers/holdapers last january lang nahitabo... dala naku ako backpack sulod kay ang dslr camera... nakuha gyud nila nag motor sila duha puros nagdala og pusil... after sa incident, ning adto dayon ko sa PARIAN POLICE STATION... kahibaw ka sir unsay nabtan namo sa station? osa ka police investigator, nalooy ko kay giduka ra bah siya unya nag samok samok ko sa iyang ka relax sa presinto... with my face nga shock kaayo sa pang hitabo nga halos lisod kog narrate sa incident... police: unsay pangalan dong? unsay may nahitabo? asa nahitabo? unsay may nakuha? pilay edad? asa nag work? unsay oras nahitabo? pila man kabook ang holdaper? unsay may gidala? nag motor? ka remember ka sa nawng? unsay may plate number? e describe ang motor dong?.... i answered all the questions... dayon anah ang police: "ok na dong..." huwaatttt ako: "unya sir unsa may mahitabo anih?".. ploice:" pagbilin lang og number dong kay haron matawagan ka namo kung unsa man ganih naa mi masikop within this week?" pagkakaron dong wala pa man tay suspek"... after ato uli ko dayon... what a waste of time... nag tuo pa naman ko mag tawag siyag mga pulis og iyang ipa deploy sa area tingay pa diay naa pa toh ang mga tulisan... karon pako ing anih diay ka ayahay ang ubang pulis... i thought to serve ang protect ilang motto...

Since you answered all the questions sa police nimo , did you try to go to LTO and have the motorcycle verfied sa registered owner and maybe go to their place to identify him ?

Mind you , we the citizens are also bound to help the peacekeeping and di lang kay magsalig sa police ra pod .

Remember also na part sa kumpyansa is ang flaws nato . Being in an area were we should not be there in the first place , wala ta nag liberty buddy ( solo frlight baga ) , walking or staying in areas na dim lighting lang and medyo mingaw .

[honey89]

There's something awfully wrong if the best advice we can give to law-abiding citizens is "be vigilant". People shouldn't be scared of criminals--criminals should be scared of the law.

I don't think it's the best advice, but it's one of the pieces of advice.

[diatabz]

I don't think it's the best advice, but it's one of the pieces of advice.

Yet it's the most consistent one. I've yet to come across a poster sharing a police success story, which is telling of the state of law and order in the city.

The fact is, you could be as vigilant as you want, but it still won't scare away crime. Just last month, a contractor was shot after an attempted mugging in Cebu Business Park. That's Cebu Business Park. That's like being mugged in Fort Bonifacio or the Upper West Side of Manhattan. Ironically, it was Rama's bodyguards (?) who caught the suspects, and only because he was in the area. (EDIT: This happened in broad daylight btw)

If Rama's reading this, which I take he is since he responded to your email (if that wasn't his secretary that is), then he knows what should be done. Police visibility must be increased, and more people need to be caught for breaking the law. If it means bringing back the death squads, then so be it.

[onig.heck]

Since you answered all the questions sa police nimo , did you try to go to LTO and have the motorcycle verfied sa registered owner and maybe go to their place to identify him ?

Mind you , we the citizens are also bound to help the peacekeeping and di lang kay magsalig sa police ra pod .

Remember also na part sa kumpyansa is ang flaws nato . Being in an area were we should not be there in the first place , wala ta nag liberty buddy ( solo frlight baga ) , walking or staying in areas na dim lighting lang and medyo mingaw .

OT: the 2 holdapers were riding a white honda wave with no plate number on it... it happened 12 midnight going home from work with my 2 buddies with me... no LTO office teh next day, i had to work in the morning and wasn't able to report it then to LTO... follow up sa police station but no LUCK... i rest my case with this incident.... as for the thread title... authorities have to work on this matter... dili kay ihatag sa mga citizens ilang responsibilidad...

[honey89]

Yet it's the most consistent one. I've yet to come across a poster sharing a police success story, which is telling of the state of law and order in the city.

The fact is, you could be as vigilant as you want, but it still won't scare away crime. Just last month, a contractor was shot after an attempted mugging in Cebu Business Park. That's Cebu Business Park. That's like being mugged in Fort Bonifacio or the Upper West Side of Manhattan. Ironically, it was Rama's bodyguards (?) who caught the suspects, and only because he was in the area.

If Rama's reading this, which I take he is since he responded to your email (if that wasn't his secretary that is), then he knows what should be done. Police visibility must be increased, and more people need to be caught for breaking the law. If it means bringing back the death squads, then so be it.

If he did, he didn't read all of it. I had quite a long intro before the link, so I infer that he based his replies on my introduction than the content of this thread. I am seriously thinking of talking to him face-to-face. I am not just sure how I can guarantee that.

Anyway, the truth is there's no degree of police visibility or number of death squads that would ever deter crime. If gusto jud nilang manghasi or mangawat, ila jud ng buhaton. Ang ako lang is I hope we stop complaining and do something. If this thread doesn't compel Rama to take bigger steps, then it would mean we have to make bolder actions. We all have our own roles to play in keeping Cebu City safe and peaceful.

[diatabz]

IAnyway, the truth is there's no degree of police visibility or number of death squads that would ever deter crime. If gusto jud nilang manghasi or mangawat, ila jud ng buhaton.

Total eradication of crime is unrealistic. But the number of petty crimes which can potentially be reduced simply by having police outposts in strategic areas cannot be ignored.

[charot!]

para nako, it is very obvious nga naa jud problema sa atoang mga kapulisan. Pero naa ghapon mga maau kaau na police. If moingon ta na dapat vigilant ta or di ta "confianza" sa paglakaw nato sa kadalanan... that shows jud nga dili safe and peaceful ang lugar nato. Lisud au ng cge na lng ta ug bantay sa atoang kapaligiran basin naay snatcher, kidnapper, or killer etc... if you would ask nganong mouli sya ug dis-oras sa gabii or nganong moagi man ka ana nga delikado nga lugar, aw pasabot ra jud nga daghan ug mga bad people sa place. Mao bitaw naa ang mga pulis aron mahimong peaceful and safe ang atong lugar.. free from those bad people. I think kita tanan nahan mopuyo sa usa ka lugar nga maski unsa ka na oras mogawas or maglaag is dili ka mahadlok or shall we say, we are safe.

I remember, naa ko kauban, same thing happened kay onig.heck. pero 3 katao to ilaha. Bale 3 ka tao nagsakay ug motor tapos ni-stop sila tungod sa ako amiga ug iya bana. Mao to, gi-hold up sila, naa pusil mao grabe pagkatrauma jud. Alas 3kapin to sa kadlawon padung work. After ato, niadto sila sa police station. You know what did the police say "Bag-o pa ko dinhi maam, ala ko access sa mga files, balik na lng inig office hours kay naa na ang mga karaan na Police" hayyyy pulis pulis... ni surok jud ako dugo when my friend told me nga giingnan sya sa police na she needs to PAY for the OR bato i dont know unsa to nga report2x, basta ila pa jud pabayron ang ako friend pra sa report or unsa pa na dinha SEE?? nakuhaan na sila ug kwarta ug cellphone, then kinahanglan pa sila mobayad?

In the first place, after unta pagreport sa ako miga sa iya, he should have done something.. iya ba rin contact-on iya lain kauban nga mo-patrol didto dapita nga lugar kay basin ala pa makalayo ang mga holdaper. Sa iya gibuhat, maresolve kaya ang problema? Or maybe, kasabwat sya ato... that... we never know....