EVERYTHING about ANGELO REYES

[|ceman]

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well you said that he has the balls and you do not agree that he is weak, so is he strong then? are suicidal people strong?

[mackiechoy]

well you said that he has the balls and you do not agree that he is weak, so is he strong then? are suicidal people strong?

and whoever said suicidal people are strong? it does not mean that if a person is not good then right away he is bad, first of all, dont be a child, the real world is not that simple na complimentary ra, its not just about right and wrong, bad or good, or unsa pang duality dha, but its everything else in between, you cant judge a person with just a choice of 2 labels, not only weak and strong but there are countless other descriptions and adjectives you can use to judge a person.

also, you cant just judge a man by just one action or his last action, you judge him on how he lived, by his achievements, not by one mistake a person does. because if you apply that to everyone else, then all of us are weak. (e.g. noynoy is weak because he has no achievements, erap is a bad person because he is a convict, rizal is a pervert bec he fornicated with his cousins, does it make sense now?)

i agree he is weak, if you talk about his hearing, he can barely hear as commodore robles describes.

but as a PA general, chief of staff, and had a decorated military career, an educated man, top 10 in his PMA class, valedictorian in high school, multiple cabinet assignments, you do the math.

[mackiechoy]

Haunted by the ghost of Angie Reyes
AS I WRECK THIS CHAIR By William M. Esposo (The Philippine Star) Updated February 13, 2011

Senators Antonio Trillanes IV, Jinggoy Estrada, Miriam Santiago and AFP (Armed Forces of the Philippines) corruption scandal investigation star witness retired Lt. Col. George Rabusa must be coping with varying degrees of guilt feelings over the suicide of Angelo T. Reyes. If you were in their shoes, after the roles they had played in pressuring Angie Reyes to do what he did — you have to be conscience-less not to be affected.

Perhaps because he is not a politician and has a lesser ego to pander to, Rabusa was more forthright in admitting that he had inflicted a deep hurt on his former boss, Angie Reyes, thereby contributing to his decision to end his life. Rabusa was gentleman enough to seek the forgiveness of the family of Angie Reyes although he was quick to qualify that he will pursue his mission to expose what he knows about the AFP corruption scandal.

Contrasting with the humility of Rabusa to acknowledge inflicted injury — Senators Trillanes, Estrada and Santiago hardly showed any regrets or sadness over the tragedy that most of media and the nation feel they significantly contributed to.

Estrada expressed sympathy for the Reyes family but quickly added that he does not feel guilty for doing what he claimed was his job. Was it his job to be boorish and embarrass Reyes during the Senate Blue Ribbon Committee Hearing when Lt. Col. Rabusa was first presented? Was it Estrada’s job not to even allow Reyes to defend himself when he tried to ask Rabusa a question?

Perhaps fearing a political fallout after seeing the praises that were being heaped on the late AFP Chief, Estrada proposed to leave out the family of Reyes in the future hearings. Some conviction this Senator has! If he was so sure of the complicity of Reyes and his family in this AFP corruption scandal — just what kind of a Senator is he to now offer to give those he previously accused a free pass?

Sen. Santiago was the height of insensitivity and devoid of Christian compassion for the family of Reyes when she stated, right after the suicide was announced, that the death of Reyes does not save his family from further investigation. Considering that Reyes had pleaded for his family to be excluded — that was just about one of the lowest points Santiago went down to. Before committing suicide, Santiago called Reyes “one of the greatest *****s in history.”

Sen. Trillanes was either really uncaring or too driven by resentment perhaps to have uttered “That’s just how life was meant to be for all of us” when asked by media for his reaction to the suicide of Reyes. Coming from a history of reckless and irresponsible actions which had already landed him in jail — it did not occur to this arrogant Senator that he was not empowered by his position to prematurely pass judgment on any Filipino, to say that he does not have a reputation to protect.

Trillanes is an elected legislator — another major mistake of the Filipino voters — but he does not even respect the presumption of a person’s innocence sans any presentation of evidence, due process and conviction. What gave Trillanes the right to say to Reyes in front of a nation following the Senate hearing live on television that he does not have the right to defend himself and has no reputation to protect? He only had his own personal opinion of Reyes and the say so of Rabusa. No documentary evidence, no due process, no cross examination of a hostile witness and yet Trillanes acted like judge, jury and executioner by declaring that Angie Reyes had no reputation to protect.



Even Lt. Col. Rabusa acknowledged in an interview with ANC’s Karen Davila that Trillanes went overboard and that the Senator’s unexpected boorish treatment of a Mistah (fellow graduate of the Philippine Military Academy or PMA) must have heavily impacted on the late AFP Chief. A Mistah is not supposed to do that to another Mistah, especially one as senior to Trillanes as Reyes was.

Senator Gringo Honasan expressed the need for civility in the Senate hearings. “We can moderate the conduct of our hearings so we can take into consideration the reputation, the name, the future of the children and grandchildren who have nothing to do with this issue,” he said.

Senate President Juan Ponce-Enrile confirmed that boorish behavior does not have a place in the Senate. “You can ask questions, exercise your right of cross-examination, but you have to be very circumspect in the words that you use in asking the question and the manner you ask the question,” Enrile said.

A STAR online reactor registered this comment in a February 9 news story about the Senators that pushed Angelo Reyes to commit suicide: “Section 21, Article VI of the Constitution, states, “The Senate or the House of Representatives or any of its respective committees may conduct inquiries in aid of legislation in accordance with its duly published rules of procedure. The rights of persons appearing in or affected by such inquiries shall be RESPECTED.”

Another STAR online reactor stated: “No, you don’t have to explain because you don’t have any reputation to protect,” Trillanes told Gen. Reyes during the Senate hearing. Imagine a lieutenant telling his Chief of Staff dead on his tracks when the latter tried to explain the goings on at the AFP Command. The Looney navy man should have been more respectful to a higher ranking officer and fellow graduate of the PMA. …Senate hearings MUST be done in aid of legislation which is its mandate but recent hearings are for maligning people they hated, fodder for negative publicity and an aid for grandstanding.”

The Senate and the Congress should announce to the nation just what exactly is the code of conduct for Senators and Congressmen during hearings and investigations — clearly stating what is considered undesirable and un-parliamentary behavior. This should be presented before every Senate and Congress hearing.

For those Senators with blood on their hands, let’s all pray for them.

[trollaccount]

I dont understand why daghan ga defend ni Reyes ngari; yes the senators that accused him had their flaws and im sure corrupt pud na, but the issue here is kung nag corrupt ba si Reyes; I dont think it needs elaboration kay based sa mga na post ngari, they believe that he did so, so why make him a hero?

Whoever said that the main issue in this thread is whether or not Reyes was corrupt? LOL

Some here admire him on a personal level. If him dying was a way of saving his family both military and biological the shame of a lengthy trial by publicity then he was a hero to both and others since it accomplished this very objective.

What did his dying accomplish for his biological family? It virtually rendered them immune from any politicized investigation. Not even the arrogant Trillanes has the balls to summon a Reyes.

That shot to the heart took a lot of courage for a man in Reyes' stature. People of lesser minds will say he took the easy way out. Reyes FYI is a powerful man who could easily have let this controversy ride itself to a slow death and still never spend a night in jail.

Jinggoy and Erap would never kill themselves...they would rather deny accusations. Even Trillanes a self styled hard a$$ military man who has zero combat experience does not have the balls to die for others or his beliefs. People are too selfish, too cowardly to do what Reyes did.

[mackiechoy]

Whoever said that the main issue in this thread is whether or not Reyes was corrupt? LOL

Some here admire him on a personal level. If him dying was a way of saving his family both military and biological the shame of a lengthy trial by publicity then he was a hero to both and others since it accomplished this very objective.

What did his dying accomplish for his biological family? It virtually rendered them immune from any politicized investigation. Not even the arrogant Trillanes has the balls to summon a Reyes.

That shot to the heart took a lot of courage for a man in Reyes' stature. People of lesser minds will say he took the easy way out. Reyes FYI is a powerful man who could easily have let this controversy ride itself to a slow death and still never spend a night in jail.

Jinggoy and Erap would never kill themselves...they would rather deny accusations. Even Trillanes a self styled hard a$$ military man who has zero combat experience does not have the balls to die for others or his beliefs. People are too selfish, too cowardly to do what Reyes did.

second this!

hehe, i like that one, self styled hard arse, no combat experience...

yes they wont kill themselves sa kabaga sa ilang nawong makaya ra nila mabuhi sa ka uwaw kay d gihapon cila mauwaw, sila mismo ang walay reputation to protect, and whats worse sa walay reputation is bad reputation, which both of them have nya mao pay mag hilas2x ug sulti ni reyes na siya ang y rep to protect... again f*ng hypocrites jud.

[|ceman]

he may be educated, top 10 of his class or even a harvard grad as a military man; yes he succeeded in all of these for all I care, but the ultimate test for being a soldier is to do the right thing where or when it matters, to defy corruption, to save his country by giving the information may he be part of the rotten system or not, to face the consequences of his actions, to face the truth (maybe he cant handle the truth hehehe); for me, its not about the credentials that define the person, but the actions he took when his country needed him the most. Bisag bali balihon pa nimu ang kalibutan, there is no honor in ending your life while your country is hanging on the balance.

[mackiechoy]

he may be educated, top 10 of his class or even a harvard grad as a military man; yes he succeeded in all of these for all I care, but the ultimate test for being a soldier is to do the right thing where or when it matters, to defy corruption, to save his country by giving the information may he be part of the rotten system or not, to face the consequences of his actions, to face the truth (maybe he cant handle the truth hehehe); for me, its not about the credentials that define the person, but the actions he took when his country needed him the most. Bisag bali balihon pa nimu ang kalibutan, there is no honor in ending your life while your country is hanging on the balance.

easy for you to say because you seem to live in a world of just black and white, most of us if not all dont know how it is to be in his shoes, you dont know what he did for the country, you only know what you heard on the news and the allegations, like trolla said Reyes is a powerful man let alone intelligent enough who could have easily let this controversy ride itself to a slow death and still never spend a night in jail, but because he has honor and dignity that he himself would rather die for his (and other people's) mistake, than play along the usual route but live consciously with all that guilt.

maybe he chose that way to not further defame the AFP, maybe he knows that the people cant handle the truth and that he chose to die with it, we wont really know for sure, but what i know is he's not as thick as the senators grilling him who can still live lavishly without feeling guilty even if their family have been found guilty.

[KASAAC]

For me the ultimate measure of a man is not where he stands in moments of comfort and convenience, but where he stands at times of challenge and controversy. Angelo Reyes - The weakest general in Philippine History..

very well said

[ice_kisser214]

mao ni giingon ni tony montana.."every dog has his day"
mao sad ning nahitabo ni reyes..oras na niya oras najud niya

[hush232002]

easy for you to say because you seem to live in a world of just black and white, most of us if not all dont know how it is to be in his shoes, you dont know what he did for the country, you only know what you heard on the news and the allegations, like trolla said Reyes is a powerful man let alone intelligent enough who could have easily let this controversy ride itself to a slow death and still never spend a night in jail, but because he has honor and dignity that he himself would rather die for his (and other people's) mistake, than play along the usual route but live consciously with all that guilt.

maybe he chose that way to not further defame the AFP, maybe he knows that the people cant handle the truth and that he chose to die with it, we wont really know for sure, but what i know is he's not as thick as the senators grilling him who can still live lavishly without feeling guilty even if their family have been found guilty.

we dont know for sure but he should know that no one got hanged, imprisoned for life..(kung ma priso hayahay gihapon mura ra ga check in sa hotel) because of corruption or plunder charges diri... no honor in ending your life....period undebatable..bisag asa pang kalibutana bisag asa pang militariha...iya lang gi pakauwawan ang mga sundawo sa iyang gibuhat