SIM card registration as anti-crime tool?

[cliff_drew]

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a crime is a crime
sa implementation: kung gusto maraming para an... kung ayaw maraming dahilan

Hahaaaaaaaaaaaiz..... okay way mahimz

[GOOGLE]

naay daghan kaso sa identity theft karon. ug usa pa ang sim card karon pwerting baratoha ra. mogasto man gani ang terorista ug 1m para lang ka bulabog kana pa kaha barato ra.

d ko boto aning ingon ani.

[masakiton]

naay daghan kaso sa identity theft karon. ug usa pa ang sim card karon pwerting baratoha ra. mogasto man gani ang terorista ug 1m para lang ka bulabog kana pa kaha barato ra.

d ko boto aning ingon ani.

If there's a way to at least lessen cellphone related crimes - then we should do it, whatever it takes.

[kolz]

@masakiton and kolz : here me out guyz, i am not against the registration, pero unsaon lagi kung butang ta be, niadto ka sa Santander, then giku-ot imong celfone sa bus(alangan man sad kung sim card ray kuoton), pagna-og nimo paka nkabantay nga giku-ot imo fone, unya kay walay payphone ka nakit-an, nangita ka ug paagi moreport but sadly, ang nag-kuot nanaog ra d i sa Pardo, ug tu-a gi-dial na ang bomba sa Pardo pa lng! mao pay pag-ab0t nimo sa Santander ug mao nlng imo nabati-an sa radyo/tv nga ikaw nagpabuto sa bomba! dili ba shocking? c'mon guyz, this may sound far out but this could be a real scenario.

my point is, this is not the solution to the problem, there should be a better way than just registering our cards. maybe they should develop a technology other than the existing mobile company server recordings and triangulation of signals... or maybe they should implement better detection and law enforcement methods or whatever na mka-deter sa mga terrorists... sukmati unya ko ninyo kung after aning registration sa sim cards naa niy pakapin nga mga additional fees in the future

Simple ra, adto ka sa pulis nya tug-an kas tinood, ihinubany unsay nahitabo sa imong telepono, and that is to clear your name as well. Mas makatabang pa kas investigation ana, labina kung nakakita ka kinsay gakawat sa imo telepono. Be pro-active lang kung ikaw makawatan/mawad-an ug telepono. Ang nakadaot man gud nato kay baliwala-on lang ni nato mga panghitabo-a. "Ay 3210 raman to, ok ra! Hasol hasol lang ko adto ug pulis" - dakong sayop.

Awa ra gud, last January uli ko sa Cebu, kita kog batang nawad-an ug ginikanan sa SM nag sigeg hilak, tua pa kos 3rd floor, gikana-ug pa gyud tawn nako aron idala ang bata sa guard, kay ang mga tawo tupad sa bata, ga siga rag mata, nanglabay ug wa ra gyud nagpakabana. Kalooy tawn sa bata, is this the kind of culture we've become?

Kani man gud nga cellfone registration, dili man ni siya fool proof nga solution. Dili pud ni siya completo na solution, nanginahanglan pud nig coordinasyon sa mga tawo. Tinood, maayo na kaayo mga kawatan ron, mapeke man gani nang diploma/passport ug uban pa! Pero unsa-on man nato pag pugong nila o pagpakgang aning mga kawatan kun wala tay himoon? Ang teknolohiya nga imong gi-tuki dili pa na mahimo sa kasagarang panahon, kanang "triangulation" ug kana ba kahang "GPS" solution, may require that cellfones be GPS capable, and this is a more expensive solution than just showing your own ID (with picture) during registration. Tell you what - dire sa Singapore, they still require you to register your SIM, bisan pa gani unsa ka advanced sa technology diri, ug kadaghan sa CCTV cameras.

[cliff_drew]

@kolz,

Much better pa siguro sir i-implement ang National ID system compare to sim registration. What do you think?

[masakiton]

@kolz,

Much better pa siguro sir i-implement ang National ID system compare to sim registration. What do you think?

both
mas dali mag apply or mag register kung naa national ID system

If there's a way to at least lessen cellphone related crimes - then we should do it, whatever it takes.

[cliff_drew]

^^ good example...
kung kaila ta kinsa ni.. pwede nato siya sitahon

LOL, imo pa jud gi quote ang message. Gi report na nako as spam.

[kolz]

@AntitaniC
Oh crap. Yeah I'll ask mods to change that.

@All,

Again, our contention here is how to solve transnational crimes. Crimes that poses national security threat. Maybe the idea of sim registration is good theoritically, but given the current scenario the implementation is quite complicated.

1) Sim registration for 80million+ prepaid users. I know gov't. will find a way but again its complicated given the current statistics not including the cost, maintenance and safeguarding the collected data.

2) Other countries already implemented such system? Heck, these are authoritarian countries. That's why they are very strict in implementing sim registration. And logic will tell that if this an effective anti-crime tool, why not all countries done it?

3) Philippines has become a haven of terrorists, expect that this system will not be a deterrence to them. Why not think for other solution? Why not improve basic crime prevention already in place?
4) This system is prone to abuse. Look at Kenya, google it.

@masakiton,

For the sake of the argument, show your ideas. Don't just be stupid by polluting the thread with your damn quote and smileys.

On the issue of implementation, here's how I would do it. On the basis of legislation, there should be no money spent by the Government and the cost should not be passed to the consumers.

1) Implementation grace period of 1 year. Each existing pre-paid user is notified through txt to register their phone, they can go to the nearest (their telco) service center to have their ID (with picture) scanned along with their phones SIM. I'd like to note that their ID's will be scanned directly into the database, this illuminates the need for paper waste.

2) 3 months before the registration process deadline, non-registered users are reminded (through SMS) that they should register your phone. On the deadline, all pre-paid users (even with credit balances not consumed on their accounts) who have not registered their phones, will be barred. Though they can still register at the nearest service center, to have their phone unbarred from calling.

3) With regards to the Privacy Issue. All post paid users are already have already registered, isn't that the same case as post-paid registration? This time around we require pre-paid users to register, why haven't you pointed out the Privacy issue for post-paid users as well?

[cliff_drew]

On the issue of implementation, here's how I would do it. On the basis of legislation, there should be no money spent by the Government and the cost should not be passed to the consumers.

Then the cost will be passed to telcos and I don't think they will not charge the consumers for this instance. Consider also that this exercise will slow down sales. Bad for telcos and retailers, right?

3) With regards to the Privacy Issue. All post paid users are already have already registered, isn't that the same case as post-paid registration? This time around we require pre-paid users to register, why haven't you pointed out the Privacy issue for post-paid users as well?

I'm not pointing out privacy ek ek here. No privacy issues.

[kolz]

Then the cost will be passed to telcos and I don't think they will not charge the consumers for this instance. Consider also that this exercise will slow down sales. Bad for telcos and retailers, right?

Telcos can easily write this off. Consider Smart/PLDT's 41.5 Billion profit from last year. Bad for telcos, but in the end the consumer is the winner.