Tinuod ba ang christmas?

[Vien]

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Passage from Roman Catholic Bible:

Deuteronomy 12:31 - "Do not worship the LORD your GOD in the way they worship their gods, for in the
worship of their gods they do all the disgusting things that the LORD HATES."

Deuteronomy 12:32 - "Do everything that I have commanded you; do not add anything to it or take anything from it".

[treize]

Vien ang kana man ganing mga bata nga sinagop unya wala mahibaw-i kanus-a gipanganak buhatan man gani og adlawng natawhan unsa na kaha si Jesus nga nag redeem sa katawhan sa mga sala..

Why do we celebrate a child's birthday? Why do we celebrate a loved one's birthday? Is it not to remember and cherish the significance of the event? What other event throughout all time is more significant than the birth of our Savior, Jesus Christ? It marks the arrival of Immanuel, God With Us, the Word Become Flesh, the Savior of the World—his is the most significant birth ever. It is the central event in all of history. Time chronicles backward and forward from this moment. I find myself wanting to ask, how can we fail to remember this day with great joy and reverence? How can we not celebrate Christmas?

Og ikaw Vien gipakataw ka nga wa hibaw-i ang sakto nga petsa, ok ra nimo nga wala kay birthday ang uban naa?

Balik nasad ko pangutana nimo. What TRUTH is it that you are claiming to know that we don't? And what are the LIES that you keep on ranting repeatedly in this thread?

[jd_cellphone]

nag libog lang judko nimo Mr. vien.....you said wala kay denomination kun asa ka na belong,...unsa man diay ni A Biblically-based community focused on prophetic truths revealing the imminent return of the Saviour. dilika member ani? or nisakay sakay lang sad ka nila?


and please mr vienvinido...i suggest you focus on thread, talking about reboltos is another topic, We have so many many many many many many many many questions for you to answer,you are in the real world mr vien. by the way. if you want a debate, I can give you one....you can make a thread about Catholics praying reboltos.

[VinRex]

...depende ra na sa imong pagtuo...

[yhokz101]

OT: Balikon nko ...mas sayun pa bawgon ang riles sa train. ..tsk tsk tsk. lagpas na kaayu na c Vien. sa ako na obserbahan dili mo basa tarung sa ubang commenst, pagan gods lage inyung gi worship uy.

[redhorse1L]

hehehe.. naabot naman tawn neh sa rebolto

[neigyl_noval]

-Kaw bro kung imbentohan ka ug adlawng natawhan nya kabalo jud ka nga dili mao mo sugot ka?

--> Musugot ko if wala nako gi-spread akong birthdate or walay klarong nakahibaw ana. Mas better nlng ng himo-an ko og birthdate kaysa walay celebration. If kabaw ko akong birthday kay May 1 den gi-celebrate og December 1, ok rana as long as nakahinumdum sila sa akong birthday.

TS, you are just too close-minded. Mutoo ka sa youtube pero dili ka mu-too sa wiki (base sa akong nabasahan sa imung previous comments).

-Wala pay nalangit bro kay wala pa may judgment day. Usa pa dili mana mag agad kung unsa imong denomination aron ka maluwas it is what you do and what you understand about your faith and how your live your life with the faith you have.

--> You opened up theories which lead Christians to react again. There are people in heaven now. Here are my biblical proofs. Read it: "Today, you will be together with me in paradise", Jesus said to the criminal when He is about to die, Luke 23:43 (Take note of the word "today"); 1 Corinthians 15; Matthew 8:11; Philippians 3:20; 1 Peter 1:4; Hebrews 10:34; Revelation 11:9-12; Jeremiah 16:4; 19:7 and 34:20 (goes to heaven shortly up to death). Romans 14:8; Philippians 3:20-21;John 11:25-26; 1 Peter 1:3-5. Kana lang. So if nakabasa jud kag bible, dapat nakabasa ka ana nga part. Do you have any proofs nga mas mulabaw pa sa akong gihatag nimu, speaking about nga walay nalangit karon? Or basin wala lang jud na nimu basaha akong gihatag nimu nga bible passages.

Yes it is true. What you are actually doing now is namugos jud kag maayo nga dili tinuod ang Christmas (mao na imung thread title). You are inviting people to believe what you believe. But you did not succeed. If dili na mao imung gibuhat, den keep it yourself. If you have any questions about Catholic faith, ask it and be open minded to accept our answers. Butangi og sources aron ma-prove imung theory. Anyway, I appreciate what you are doing now.

-No bro dili ma settle ang tubag kay sayop gihapon, In what reason and who's authority why did they choose that date aduna bay apparition? miracle? aduna bay tawo nga giingnan sa Dios nga "ANAK HIMOA NGA ANG BIRTHDAY NI JESUS CHRIST PETSA 25 SA DECEMBRE"?

--> Here is the reason:

It is the Church responsible for it. Since people are worshipping Iranian and other sun gods at that time (kay dominant man jud ang sun worship at that time), the Church declared that day so that people will not worship the sun god anymore but to Jesus.

Nakabasa jud ka sa bible sa nga "you shall not worship other gods aside from me"? Mao na ilang stand. It is better mag-himo2x og date para lang ma-wagtang ang idol worshipping where in fact, wala man juy nakahibaw sa exact date sa birth ni Jesus.

It is really that big deal nga sayop ang declaration sa birthdate ni Jesus? Mas bigger deal pmn guro kung ang mga taw mu-worship sa sun god. I am pretty sure nga walay member diri sa istorya nga ni-worship sa sun god karon. Thanks to the Church.

Dili gihapon bro. In fact our days now are made from pagan named after their Gods, they made Gregorian Calendar which is a Pagan Calendar, It was basing it's festivities, or Holidays or Holy Days on their Roman Pagan gods or Deity. So it will never be settled sa pagka karon, never say assumption coz it will never be credited as true.

--> Just a short history. The first organized calendar was Julian calendar, then Caesar's calendar. But since daghan man kaayo og errors kaning mga kalendaryoha, Pope Gregory XIII modified the existing calendar at that time, pero naa gihapoy error. But since wala nmn jud silay exact way of correcting those errors, gi-accept nlng nila ang Gregorian Calendar. The seven-day week was not established by the Church. Ang Church ray nag-modify sa number of dates due to historical reasons. Kana dili gihapon ka mutoo ana kay adto kas youtube?

Kabalo nako ana Bro. Dugay na. I even made a comments on it diri.

--> At least you know.

Who? is it really Christ? Then why is it that catholics mo adto jud sa "NAGHILAK-HILAK NGA BATO SA SIMALA ARON MAG PAKITABANG? Mao bani imong giingon nga Si Jesu Cristo ra?

--> TS, naa kay misunderstanding diha. Ayaw og himo og conclusion kung wala ka kabaw kung ngano.
(1) Si Jesus ra among gi-worship.
(2) We did not worship the stone oi!! Ka-aligri ba ani imung gisulti. And of course, we do not worship Mother Mary!! Bear that in mind TS! They cried Mother Mary for help aron tabangan sila sa pag-ampo ngadto ni Hesus. Wala nagpasabot nga ni-worship sila ni Mary. Ang kanang naa ra na diha. Dili pasabot nga mao nay gi-ampoan. If mao man gani na ilang gi-ampoan tungod na kaay naay embedding about Mother Mary diha.

Passage from Roman Catholic Bible:

Deuteronomy 12:31 - "Do not worship the LORD your GOD in the way they worship their gods, for in the
worship of their gods they do all the disgusting things that the LORD HATES."[/quote]
--> That is the reason nganung December 25 ang gi-declare nga birthday sa Ginoo aron mawagtang na ang pag-worship sa mga idols particularly the sun god.

Deuteronomy 12:32 - "Do everything that I have commanded you; do not add anything to it or take anything from it".

--> Yep it's true. Wala mi gipuno ug wala mi gikuhaan. Naa diay? If naa, unsa man aron masultian tika sa tinuod.

[windshock]

bwahahaha, agi lng ko

[jd_cellphone]

--> Here is the reason:

It is the Church responsible for it. Since people are worshipping Iranian and other sun gods at that time (kay dominant man jud ang sun worship at that time), the Church declared that day so that people will not worship the sun god anymore but to Jesus.

Nakabasa jud ka sa bible sa nga "you shall not worship other gods aside from me"? Mao na ilang stand. It is better mag-himo2x og date para lang ma-wagtang ang idol worshipping where in fact, wala man juy nakahibaw sa exact date sa birth ni Jesus.

It is really that big deal nga sayop ang declaration sa birthdate ni Jesus? Mas bigger deal pmn guro kung ang mga taw mu-worship sa sun god. I am pretty sure nga walay member diri sa istorya nga ni-worship sa sun god karon. Thanks to the Church.

Bro dili jud maminaw si vien nato..close minded gyud kaayo siya..

[jd_cellphone]

--> Just a short history. The first organized calendar was Julian calendar, then Caesar's calendar. But since daghan man kaayo og errors kaning mga kalendaryoha, Pope Gregory XIII modified the existing calendar at that time, pero naa gihapoy error. But since wala nmn jud silay exact way of correcting those errors, gi-accept nlng nila ang Gregorian Calendar. The seven-day week was not established by the Church. Ang Church ray nag-modify sa number of dates due to historical reasons. Kana dili gihapon ka mutoo ana kay adto kas youtube?

Bro ang calendar ni vien kay mao ni...Yahuwah's Calendar
unya ang date karon kay 12/29/2010 man, ang sa ilaha gitamdan kay 09/21/5998

ambot unsay name sa bulan nila, unya 5k na kapin ila tuig..