Tinuod ba ang christmas?

[redhorse1L]

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lol many people here loves to ask and speak their mind without reading, like i said in previous post, date is UNKNOWN. BUT IT IS IMPOSSIBLE TO CONCLUDES DECEMBER 25 is the Birthdate, cause it's winter and it is PAGAN. PERIOD.

The only reason that some scholars suggest Jesus was not born on December because of the shepherds' activities. They suggest if December na-tawo si Jesus, there shouldn't be flocks of sheeps kay mag-snow na. This is one theory.

Based from other theories, snow might started to accumulate on the mountain ranges, which sheperds can still flock their sheeps on the ground level. So possible mag-tugway pa sila on December.

One of the famous explanation based on the bible account was the Annunciation, which happens on the 14th day of Nisan. The Lunar calendar estimatedly pinpoints it to March 25. On the day of annunciation, the Angel Gabriel, told Mary that she is going to conceive a baby. Her cousin Elizabeth is already 6 months pregnant. After 3 months (June 25), we have the birthday celebration of John the Baptist which catholics celebrated. After 9 Months from annunciation, we have the birthday of Jesus!

[pinoyfliptop]

ako sabay ra ko sa uso,, kung mag pasko ang mga tawo,,, sabay lng ko,, pero dle jud ko mutoo nga december 25 ang b.d ni kristo........ well mo2o rako if naa moy proof nga epakita nako .hwahahahah

[yhokz101]

lol many people here loves to ask and speak their mind without reading, like i said in previous post, date is UNKNOWN. BUT IT IS IMPOSSIBLE TO CONCLUDES DECEMBER 25 is the Birthdate, cause it's winter and it is PAGAN. PERIOD.

toinks! ask lang ko.. ni basa ka sa ako post above un imo gi sabot? Pag tsure ui.. kaligo sa daw basin half awake paka.. did we ever conclude it's on december 25? as what I have said we don't know for sure.. and to add my explanation there's no date on the bible now is there? Now to say this again, we celebrate it on december 25 NOT because we are sure (now I did not conclude) it's the correct date, just so happen it's on tradition and we celebrate it to COMMEMORATE, to give importance on His coming, to share the love/care natong tanan. We are not on whatsoever relate december 25 to pagan date as you say it is, maybe to those malicious mind (and I believe you are one of them) that keeps on making labels that on december 25 is not only celebrating Christ's Birthday but literally saying we are celebrating it in behalf of pagan worship..

now get this.. it is pretty conclusive to say that a man is a criminal or have committed a crime just by wearing a jailed uniform? Though a uniform is a representation but doesn't mean you are right on judging that man.

[necrotic freak]

kana si king bro ato nalang na sabton kay dili na jud na mapapas sa iyang alimpatakan ang pagbrainwash sa ilang pastor.. tiwasan pajud sa interpretasyon nila sa biblya nga letiral kaayo.

once again King, please analyze redhorse post.. bulls eye kaayo pagkatubag ang imong mga why why why...

Whew! grabeha, nawagtang lang ko kadali, biyaan naman ko sa kadaghan mga posts.
And I just attended our office Christmas party yesterday. hehehe

Let me just give an analogy (pa-lingaw sad ba):
Suppose a remote pagan village has a god named "Mojacko". When the first rain comes after a very long summer, the villager will rejoice and feasted: "All Hail the god of rain!, Moja! Moja". They offer sacrifices in the altar and it has been a tradition for centuries. Now, comes the prophet of a true god saying: "Repent! you are worshipping a false god!, the provider of all things, the giver of life is none other than "Doraemon"!. Now the people started to get converted. What are they gonna do with the first rain? Tang-tangon ba nila? I don't think so. Since they already knew that the true god is Doraemon, they give him due credit all the provisions they receive. So when the first rain comes, they shout: "All Hail the true god Doraemon, the provider of rain, sunlight, which gives life to our crops!" From that, all people were converted to Doraemonism. No more altar sacrifices, but peace and love around the village.

Now, after 2 Millenia, curious modern historians try to find how the rain festival started and found out that it was a paganistic celebration for the rain god Mojacko.
I think mao na'y nahitabo karon. Kamo nalang mo-decide kung ipa-stop ba ninyo ang festival or padayonon. hehehe.

Ok, back to the topic.
Why we celebrate Christmas? Because the first Christmas was one of the grandest celebration of all! The heavens was filled with Angels singing "Glory to the new born King! Peace on Earth!". If we have time machine and warp us back to that date, dili kaha ka mag-lukso2x sa kalipay? and sing along with the angels? Bring the baby Jesus with gifts?

Why Jesus did not celebrate his birthday? Because it is not a Jewish custom to celebrate it. It's not that it is pagan, but they really don't give much significance on birthdays.

How do we celebrate Christmas? Celebrating christmas is not just loving, sharing, giving gifts, parties. The true meaning of Christmas is inside ourselves. As what John the Baptist is shouting in the wilderness: "Prepare the way of the Lord". We prepare our hearts for his coming, therefore let's get rid out the dark corners of our heart and put Christ, the light of the world. Commemorating His birthday is like warping back to the first christmas.

Mao nay murag nabalewala karon. I'm glad naa sad neh nga thread to make us realize what the true essence of Christmas is. I'm not a self-righteous person, but I at least I have shared these things for those who are not aware.


Ahak, mura naman ko ug pari aneh nag-sermon.

Merry Christmas nalang ninyong tanan!!

Note: It is not conclusive in the Bible that Christmas is NOT on December.
There are also biblical explainations that can point Christmas to December.

[treize]

Simple, very simple since it has no basis brother it can not stand by itself and can not be justified as truth coz it has no basis at all and no need to proved coz there's nothing to prove since there is no evidence at all.

Then if that is the case, this statement clearly invalidates the claim on that video..

[treize]

Whew! grabeha, nawagtang lang ko kadali, biyaan naman ko sa kadaghan mga posts.
And I just attended our office Christmas party yesterday. hehehe

Let me just give an analogy (pa-lingaw sad ba):
Suppose a remote pagan village has a god named "Mojacko". When the first rain comes after a very long summer, the villager will rejoice and feasted: "All Hail the god of rain!, Moja! Moja". They offer sacrifices in the altar and it has been a tradition for centuries. Now, comes the prophet of a true god saying: "Repent! you are worshipping a false god!, the provider of all things, the giver of life is none other than "Doraemon"!. Now the people started to get converted. What are they gonna do with the first rain? Tang-tangon ba nila? I don't think so. Since they already knew that the true god is Doraemon, they give him due credit all the provisions they receive. So when the first rain comes, they shout: "All Hail the true god Doraemon, the provider of rain, sunlight, which gives life to our crops!" From that, all people were converted to Doraemonism. No more altar sacrifices, but peace and love around the village.

Now, after 2 Millenia, curious modern historians try to find how the rain festival started and found out that it was a paganistic celebration for the rain god Mojacko.
I think mao na'y nahitabo karon. Kamo nalang mo-decide kung ipa-stop ba ninyo ang festival or padayonon. hehehe.

Ok, back to the topic.
Why we celebrate Christmas? Because the first Christmas was one of the grandest celebration of all! The heavens was filled with Angels singing "Glory to the new born King! Peace on Earth!". If we have time machine and warp us back to that date, dili kaha ka mag-lukso2x sa kalipay? and sing along with the angels? Bring the baby Jesus with gifts?

Why Jesus did not celebrate his birthday? Because it is not a Jewish custom to celebrate it. It's not that it is pagan, but they really don't give much significance on birthdays.

How do we celebrate Christmas? Celebrating christmas is not just loving, sharing, giving gifts, parties. The true meaning of Christmas is inside ourselves. As what John the Baptist is shouting in the wilderness: "Prepare the way of the Lord". We prepare our hearts for his coming, therefore let's get rid out the dark corners of our heart and put Christ, the light of the world. Commemorating His birthday is like warping back to the first christmas.

Mao nay murag nabalewala karon. I'm glad naa sad neh nga thread to make us realize what the true essence of Christmas is. I'm not a self-righteous person, but I at least I have shared these things for those who are not aware.


Ahak, mura naman ko ug pari aneh nag-sermon.

Merry Christmas nalang ninyong tanan!!

Note: It is not conclusive in the Bible that Christmas is NOT on December.
There are also biblical explainations that can point Christmas to December.

Two Thumbs Up bai as expected..

[x-men]

tinoood oie it's God's b.day

[teoding]

tino-od sa mu to-o. dili sa di mu-to-o. it is that simple.

[Vien]

It's assumption

[MoOnSkYaRcHeR07]

its true coz thats our believe