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    Please stay tune for my next thread. "THE CREATORS CALENDAR" hope youll be enlightened nasad with this new revelation since it was came from Youtube but still it gives a lot of nice and useful Idea on "how's and why's" that we have in mind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by treize View Post
    nice pagkabuhat ang video...

    The thing is, you just can't easily fool a grown up person in believing your own interpretation..
    Pakit-a ang mga rugby boys ana basin motuo pa..

    My question is; has anyone proved that Christ's birthday is not the 25th?
    Simple, very simple since it has no basis brother it can not stand by itself and can not be justified as truth coz it has no basis at all and no need to proved coz there's nothing to prove since there is no evidence at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vien View Post
    Simple, very simple since it has no basis brother it can not stand by itself and can not be justified as truth coz it has no basis at all and no need to proved coz there's nothing to prove since there is no evidence at all.
    - you don't get his thought.. there's no proof that it's on december 25 right? But do you have proof either that it's not on december 25th. Think deep... coz if you really read his statement correctly your topic on december 25 issue is just hanging in the air. Simply put, you don't have proof either that December 25 is not Christ's birthday. gets nimo TS?

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    goodluck truthseekers.
    Last edited by King; 12-18-2010 at 10:35 AM.

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    @TS: sugot ka wala kay xmas bonus(13thmonthpay) kay tungod d ka motoo ug xmas?!

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    Tinood ng CHRISTmas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by King View Post
    also if that is a triumph of Roman Church over the Paganism why they adopted a pagan holiday? so if the Church won, why there are still a holiday influenced by pagans? you two are just confused of your own tradition holiday. anyways like i said i never believe with just a quotes from some reference unless it is quoted in the Bible, or it is wrote with a reference to support a Biblical event such as Historical event.

    want TRUTH, read Bible! support it with historical event that includes in the Bible if not, then you mislead yourself.

    Whew! grabeha, nawagtang lang ko kadali, biyaan naman ko sa kadaghan mga posts.
    And I just attended our office Christmas party yesterday. hehehe

    Let me just give an analogy (pa-lingaw sad ba):
    Suppose a remote pagan village has a god named "Mojacko". When the first rain comes after a very long summer, the villager will rejoice and feasted: "All Hail the god of rain!, Moja! Moja". They offer sacrifices in the altar and it has been a tradition for centuries. Now, comes the prophet of a true god saying: "Repent! you are worshipping a false god!, the provider of all things, the giver of life is none other than "Doraemon"!. Now the people started to get converted. What are they gonna do with the first rain? Tang-tangon ba nila? I don't think so. Since they already knew that the true god is Doraemon, they give him due credit all the provisions they receive. So when the first rain comes, they shout: "All Hail the true god Doraemon, the provider of rain, sunlight, which gives life to our crops!" From that, all people were converted to Doraemonism. No more altar sacrifices, but peace and love around the village.

    Now, after 2 Millenia, curious modern historians try to find how the rain festival started and found out that it was a paganistic celebration for the rain god Mojacko.
    I think mao na'y nahitabo karon. Kamo nalang mo-decide kung ipa-stop ba ninyo ang festival or padayonon. hehehe.

    Ok, back to the topic.
    Why we celebrate Christmas? Because the first Christmas was one of the grandest celebration of all! The heavens was filled with Angels singing "Glory to the new born King! Peace on Earth!". If we have time machine and warp us back to that date, dili kaha ka mag-lukso2x sa kalipay? and sing along with the angels? Bring the baby Jesus with gifts?

    Why Jesus did not celebrate his birthday? Because it is not a Jewish custom to celebrate it. It's not that it is pagan, but they really don't give much significance on birthdays.

    How do we celebrate Christmas? Celebrating christmas is not just loving, sharing, giving gifts, parties. The true meaning of Christmas is inside ourselves. As what John the Baptist is shouting in the wilderness: "Prepare the way of the Lord". We prepare our hearts for his coming, therefore let's get rid out the dark corners of our heart and put Christ, the light of the world. Commemorating His birthday is like warping back to the first christmas.

    Mao nay murag nabalewala karon. I'm glad naa sad neh nga thread to make us realize what the true essence of Christmas is. I'm not a self-righteous person, but I at least I have shared these things for those who are not aware.


    Ahak, mura naman ko ug pari aneh nag-sermon.

    Merry Christmas nalang ninyong tanan!!

    Note: It is not conclusive in the Bible that Christmas is NOT on December.
    There are also biblical explainations that can point Christmas to December.
    Last edited by redhorse1L; 12-17-2010 at 08:44 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by King View Post
    it has proof the Bible itself speaks, it is not winter and December 25th it's winter season, goodluck truthseekers.
    - uhmm do you have a date? the exact date? If so, I concede and accept your claim but if what you're saying is just a theory or an assumption.. pls spare me the wisdom and don't try to tell me IT IS DEFINITE THE CHRIST'S BIRTH DATE IS NOT ON DECEMBER 25 coz you got no evidence to what you are claiming..we are one same concept of assuming things, but what makes us different from your kind is that we are celebrating it on Dec 25 not because we are sure we got the exact date but because we are commemorating His birth and you are not (since you don't celebrate it). So good luck on your said "truth".

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    goodluck truthseekers.
    Last edited by King; 12-18-2010 at 10:15 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by King View Post
    lol many people here loves to ask and speak their mind without reading, like i said in previous post, date is UNKNOWN. BUT IT IS IMPOSSIBLE TO CONCLUDES DECEMBER 25 is the Birthdate, cause it's winter and it is PAGAN. PERIOD.
    waman gyud kasabot ni si king...maypa si vein kay wala na ni enter..naghimo nalang nuon lain thread si vein..

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