Marvel versus DC

[gatsby]

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[/B]he has a gun that killed Darkseid(a god).

HALA! tinuod ni? naay gun si Batman that killed Darkseid? pagka bati gud aning DC oi... first, si Diana na control ni Roulette which is a human being, second si Superman na control sab, unya karun si Batman na HUMAN lang pud nag imbento ug gun na mauy naka patay ni Darkseid?

unsa made ang gun? gibuhat ra sa Earth or naa lain gigamit kay kung sa Earth lng, hahahahaha, katawa lang ko daan... ana ra ka dali mapildi ilang god, in the hands of a human being. naghago hago pa si Superman ug Wonder Woman, pusil ra diay ni Batman makapatay ni Darkseid.. it really sucks big time for DC Comics... di jud ko nahan sa ilang plot.

yes. current Spectre killed his host' own son iirc.
Franklin Richards who's actually a threat, is going to go crying home back to his hot mother.

too bad I'm the only one actively participating here who actually knows how these things work. gatsby still thinks the JLU cartoon hasn't ended.

who actually knows how these things work? wow... grabe ang tama mo tsong, hehehe... daghan gani kag sayup unya ikaw ray nakabalo how these things work? even Wiki, DC site, Marvel site, TV and even comics gina question? medyo tama ka nga you are the only one who knows how these things work, LOL... ikaw ray nasayud sa imong ideas, hahahaha... peace

Spectre at full power(full backing by the Presence) is equal to the Living Tribunal.

one sentence ownage ftw.

full backing from The Presence? so it means palaban? hehehe.. bro The Presence ug The One Above All dili na i labot sa versus, LOL... so since walay labot dili sya ana ka strong, naa gani syay weaknesses diba? tapos namatay sya?

Green Lantern Hal Jordan is a good match for Surfer. it'll be a close fight, but Surfer will win eventually.

Onslaught, Warlock, Magus I don't know who'd be a good match for them, or can't be bothered to think.

Phoenix of the WC as I already said, Spectre is a possible match, though full powered Spectre is LT's equal so maybe not. the Endless I suppose, but it'll probably be a stalemate.

sure ka? full powered si Spectre equal niya si Living Tribunal? hahahahaha... ngano diay dili sya full powered? heheheh, because of The Presence? now here comes the The Presence again...

for your information bro, walay weakness si Living Tribunal (maybe of course if mo eksena si The One Above All but wala mani sya labot), dayun naa ba sa comics namatay si Living Tribunal like Spectre? ma full powered or not still he is NO match for Living Tribunal, weakness lang ni Spectre tigok daun sya

ka sayang ni Silver Surfer i match lang nimo kay Green Lantern... how about Quasar versus Green Lantern?

VERSUS

[Blackbeard]

STOP THIS BATMAN IS WEAK!!! Stop Comparing him to IRONMAN because batman will always loose.

I wasn't comparing Batman and Iron Man, you brought it up.

"depends"!? HAHAHA.. batman stands no chance nope no chance at all.

no, he actually does if he has places where he can hide and surprise Tony.
but if they fight in an open field, yes Batman will undoubtedly get demolished.

funny how he could invent something like that the writers must have drunk too much tequila

tequila would be an understatement.

THats exactly my point. batman needs information/input from an old man.

which is good, it keeps him on the right path. while Iron Man... well, he could have used that old man wisdom during Civil War. of course, between an old man and booty, I'd go for booty any day.

though in comics I think Jarvis is his butler, it's only in the movies that he's become his AI.

Ironman on the other hand has nano bots inside his body that can get him information from all over the world. He can access any computer anywhere. Can Control a legion of ironman suit while he is on a meeting. If Ironman goes all out on batman. all he can use are his primitive equipments which will have no avail on ironman. Ok. So he made a gun that killed a god. Ironman can easily hack through his computer and manufacture the same weapon then use it against batman. see. NO match at all.

oh, hacking Batman's computer isn't going to be easy, even for Tony.
Batman is the most paranoid character in all of fiction. bypassing his computers security is going to make Tony sweat, besides hacking computers isn't his speciality, so all the more much difficult for him.

Can batman control his other suits to fight for him? no. batman is useless against ironman.

while Tony can indeed control his suits, he rarely does this anyway. besides, right now Bruce Wayne is mass producing a million robot Batman's to police the world.

see tony has superior tech. PERIOD. It wont matter now if his equipments are comparable to tony's or reed's because the nanobots that is embedded inside tony has removed all the other competition in the game.

no, it hasn't really. Cap disabled Iron Man with a simple emp device during Civil War.

he has no repulsor tech because he just does not have it. not because of the environment and style he works in... its really plain and simple. He. Does. Not. Have. It.

he can if he would, but it doesn't suit his ninja-ish style of taking down crims.

Defensive mechanism
Batman = Led armor.
Ironman = deflector shields

what is led armor? light emitting diode? or did you mean lead? anyway, like I said their styles are different. I don't even get why you brought them up.

see it goes to show he is not a phenomenon like Tony. He is just a normal person.

so why did you compare him to Tony to begin with?

because if he is in a meeting he cant change into batman. he still needs to hide and change clothes. he still needs to go to his bat cave. HAHAHAHA. that is just so pathetic. IronMan can just think of his armor mentally and it snaps right in place. see.

you've only seen the Batman movies, have you?

He will know. he has access to all the information in the world.

oh I certainly doubt that, especially after the events that have taken place in recent years.

and it still is.

not really.

weakness is defined as something that if used against you will cripple you. just because he cant fly doesn't mean he is weak. it just means he cant. "HE CANT" is what one will call a constraint not a weakness.

which is in a sense, a weakness because his opponent can and will exploit it.

See.
mobility = constraint (not a weakness.)

yes, pretty much the same.

not from what you see in the movies. He is just so pathetic when that green stone is near. Now that is a weakness that HULK can use as a leverage.

yes, the movies. after being stabbed by kryptonite he was still able to lift an island made of kryptonite and throw it into space. and the comics are more powerful.
besides, Hulk doesn't know that weakness. he is not the Silver Surfer who has Cosmic Awareness.

because Ironman was matched up with the Hulk and got toe-to-toe with the HULK. Can Batman Stand a chance against such an adversary?

bolded doesn't make sense at all.
and if Batman is allowed time to prepare, he can. Iron Man and Reed could have beaten Hulk in WWH if the plot didn't turn them into *****s so that they'll lose. I hate that comic.

can batman fight the hulk just like tony?

if any of Marvel's martial artist/street levelers/peak humans could, Batman surely can.
but fight the Hulk like Tony did? a fist fight? no. maybe if he has prep, but still won't be in the same vein as Tony decided to engage the Hulk(with a Hulkbuster which pretty much sealed his defeat even before they started fighting).

Give it up blackbeard

why? I'm just trying to help you get rid of your misconceptions between the two characters who's only similarity is their wealth.

TONY is smarter than Bruce

debatable, but I won't go there with a Batman hater.

Ironman's Tech is Way advance than Batman's

hmmm...

Tony is Tech enhanced, Bruce is just a normal man with too much weights. (his armor or suit or whatever you call it cant even help him carry weights way heavier than him)

which is why I question why you started comparing the two to start with.

Tony has the ability to mass produce Ultra advance Ironman suits at a thought (while having an intercourse) and control them at the same time. Bruce just one primitive suit at a time and he needs to be missing in action to create something. It looks ridiculous with pointy ears (his suits).

well, Batman doesn't have nanites in his body. actually, I don't think Tony no longer has either, or at least not the Extremist tech since he had to build a suit(identical to his first iirc) from a crashed ship during that time in Secret Wars.

Tony has wifi in his brain, Bruce... has... a computer the size of a mainframe.
Tony has invented AI for his company and his suit. Bruce still needs to type.
Tony can fly Bruce cant

wifi? so Tony technologically speaking took a step back?
Bruce doesn't trust AI's, among other things.
no, it's not Batman's style to fly despite the name.

man The list could go on forever. And Batman will always be in the loosing end of this conversation.

well, in your obviously bias/Batman hating point of view, yes. he would be on the loosing end. though they're hardly alike apart from being wealthy, so I really don't get where you got the idea to compare them.

[disenchanted]

kani sila tanan malupig ni son goku..

[Blackbeard]

kani sila tanan malupig ni son goku..

lol dili intawn.

[vcmov_15]

hahahaha nindot ang discussion dinhe kay pulos what if ang mahitabo.. i dont like batman but there are some DC characters who aint that bad.. but i love MARVEL and most of my fave heroes are there.. i hope some-one would make a movie out of this paring thingy.. or better yet how about marvel vs DC movie? ah that would be something to look forward to

[disenchanted]

Its confirmed!!! DC and Marvel will join forces to battle Panday..

[vcmov_15]

^tsk tsk im guessing it would flop ahahahahahaha.. no one cares about panday!

[Blackbeard]

hayz gatsby, gikapoy na ko lol. di nako mopadayon ky sayang kaayo ang 30 minutes para lang ani, may rba ug bata pa ta.

[gatsby]

hayz gatsby, gikapoy na ko lol. di nako mopadayon ky sayang kaayo ang 30 minutes para lang ani, may rba ug bata pa ta.

hahahaha, nagkatawa ko ani bro...its true it can consume time jud... lets only match characters and post their powers as what P-Chan suggested a while ago, then that's it.

[Blackbeard]

lol so mao nalang ni. ang sa katong ongoing na matchup from me, akong opinion.

Wonder Woman and Rogue.
I said dili magamit ni Rogue ang iyang powers kang Wonder Woman kay pas2x ra kaayo siya kaysa ni Rogue and to back that up...
kadtong picture na akong gipost where she ran into the speed force and lassoed Jessie. to reach the speedforce dapat imo mn mabreak ang lightspeed barrier. si Rogue kay wa mn ko nakaremember nga ingonana siya ka pas2x.
WW's reaction is also better kay iyang nadakpan si Zoom when she was blind. kani si Zoom kontra ni xa ni Flash, and like him ftl pod ni xa. usa pod sa mga kontra ni WW ky si Cheetah nga speed pod ang power. she sometimes gets Wonder Woman by surprise, mostly when WW is trying to talk to her, but she always ends up getting beat up by the Amazon Princess.
anyway, that's why I said WW cannot be touched by Rogue, while WW can hit her. Rogue basically is just slower in comparison to WW.

now, can Wonder Woman can one shot her? possibly.
I posted that scan of WW helping Superman(who can move planets) lift the Spectre's body. as well as knocking the wind out of that alien who was taking Superman's planet shattering punches.
so Wonder Woman has the strength to hurt her, if not KO her in one shot. as for Rogue, she doesn't(she's only class 50) because Wonder Woman was tough enough to receive those planet shattering punches from Superman and only blacking out for a few seconds; also taking Zoom's "infinite mass punch". that fight took place before her fight with Superman that I posted.

so, not only can Rogue not touch Wonder Woman, she also cannot hurt her because she lacks in speed and strength, and her absorbing powers are rendered useless because of the speed difference and Rogue is clothed, Wonder Woman will usually aim for the stomach/ribs/liver from what I've observed when it comes to fighting female characters. so that negates the possibility of Wonder Woman accidentally getting absorbed by Rogue.
Wonder Woman also has some fighting skills, enough for Batman(who is one of the top martial artist in the DCU) to name her as the most dangerous woman on Earth... or was it the most skilled fighter on Earth. ah well. that said, WW is in my opinion the winner.


now! Superman vs. Thor.
the reason I believe Superman would win is because Thor doesn't have the means to put him down in a fight unless he is given time to cast/charge his most powerful attack(a magical galaxy buster if I recall correctly) and Superman stupidly takes it. yes, Thor has magic and that's one of Superman's weaknesses which would make one think that Thor would win, but I say thee nay. Superman has faced against magical beings before, and he was given a magical shield by the Phantom Stranger(from Kurt Busiek's Superman run). the guy he was fighting there is Arion, a powerful wizard who can travel through time casually. and Phantom Stranger is another Skyfather level being. the shield will make Thor's magical attacks less effective and Superman also won't just blindly fly into his magical attacks, he's not an idiot after all.
that's why this fight, like all other fights involving these characters against other heavy hitters, is going to end up becoming a fist fight and on that front Superman has the advantage. he is faster.

Thor has been clocked at 3x the speed of light and Superman, I've posted that fight between him and Wonder Woman where they went near the Sun and back in seconds, and light takes 8 minutes to reach the Sun meaning he travelled 8x the speed of light in that fight. Superman then is faster and that advantage in speed is all he needs as he can do this to Thor until eventually the God of Thunder will fall. I don't doubt Thor won't be able to get a few hits on Superman especially with his skill, but Superman is too durable that it'd take a lot to beat him just like Thor. unfortunately for Thor, Superman will be able to hit him a lot more than he could due to his speed advantage. mura ba ug Pacquiao vs. Margarito(don't crucify me istoryans who hate Superman, it's just an example, lol).

and one of the points raised is if can a Kryptonian beat a god? Rogue used her powers against Thor, she did not beat him but the mere fact that she was able to use her mutant powers against him and weaken him for a moment says that being a god doesn't mean one can only be beaten/weakened/affected by another god. by that logic, yes a mere Kryptonian will beat a god. though I think Thor has lost to mortals before. he lost to Rulk(Red Hulk who is General Ross) once.

lol so mao nalang na akong bahin ani. hehe.

overall though, tabla ra jud. and as far as kung asa maoy mas nindot, murag tabla ra pod pero masganahan ko sa cosmics sa Marvel(Thanos and Silver Surfer fan mn ko). depends on personal preference.