MERGED: Tau Gamma and Akhro to be branded as 'violent groups' (poll)

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Again the same answer blame the media........

of course who is there to blame ? When someone SENSATIONALIZED an issue to make it look like its not then it is to be blame to whatever outcome it will bring . DIli na MEDIA ba perfect description ??

Can't the Frats look also themselves on what went wrong? sige nalang ta ug blame here and blame there....

The only BLAMING that happened was towards INNACURATE REPORTS that was released an corrupted the point of views including you .

You talk about individual actions.... When a Fratmember does a BAD individual actions BUT says to his co-FRATmembers na gi binuangan siya....

And you are suggesting ? Wether tabangan siya sa brod padakuon ang problema or tambagan na likayi na lang , STILL it does not incorporate a FRATERNITY SANCTIONED ACTION because it does bring the whole group on one common goal na " MAGPATABANG KAY GIBINUANGAN " .

Unsay many reaction sa FRAternity mo laban dayon then hakot dayong para rambol...........

There is no proven evidence of these claim other than YOU saw it back in college . Wa ka malipong kung hakuton sa AKRHO ang tanan myembro ? Basin ang rato ana sa kontra ug police combined 2 : 1 pa . So dili justified na FRATERNITY SANCTIONED na siya because nobody vested it but only INDIVIDUAL ACTIONS .

Katong college pako kaila ko sa lihok sa mga Fratmember........... kanang TAbis na word Favorite kaayo.... so DILI ko nag speculate.... Ni agi ko ug college ug ni graduate....

Favorite word man pod na sa NON FRATMEMBER na bugoy bugoy , tuod naay FRATMEMBER matod nimo kay mao na ang favorite word , dili na siya favorite word sa FRATERNITY .

you tell me i'm speculating on what i saw during college..... GET REAL.... Everyone in school knows it.......... so ayaw nalang ipang hambog na ikaw ray sakto ug naay FACTS............

YES I do have th FACTS . You are dealing with FRAT MEMBERS , I am dealing with the FRATERNITY as a WHOLE .

Ikaw ra ni agi ug college diri?? Ikaw ra ni apil ug Frat diri?

Daghan ni agi ug college ug daghan pod fratmembers diri . Try to tell them what youve been telling me lately and lets see their point of views .

Your answers only show that when Frats go wrong you can't admit it............

REALLY ?? I didnt know that , I do know that I despise fratmembers who brings shame to fellow members and the name he carries but not that I said the FRATERNITY cant accept the wrongdoings . Havent you figured out yet the fine line between FRATERNITY and FRATMEMBERS ??

Ngano nag PEACE PACT man mo.... Nga ingon man ka walay sayop na buhat ang FRATS.... Dili ka mo admit wala moy sayop.... Whats the use of the PEACE PACT....

Ngano nag peace pact ? To damage control the situation because nobody , I say NOBODY and NONE at all can solve the problem but the FRATERNITY itself . Now tell me who is not admitting and not guiding the gone astray brods ?

NAg PEACE pact mo para dili namo mag patay? Ngano wala diay ga patay sauna kay magka suya-suya lang

Nagpeace pact kay basin mapagan unya ka part Dagget , daghan mo hilak .

Your PEACE PACT shows NAG GUBOT MO...........

It shows the concern of the group to solve the problem .

So kana inyong PEACE pact gi unsa mana pag come about?? Wala mo ga patay sauna for flimsy reasons

What a question !! Anything more worth reading ??

If FRATS really say it was just an individual action ngano mag PEACE PACT man mo?

Read again my replies and somewhere up there is the answer that should satisfy your hunger for CHISMIS .

I really want to hear the reason behind that peace pact? kay that PEACE pact proves that violence happened between FRATS....

Why dont you ASK your CLASSMATES and college ? Karon ari naka nako mangutana ??

tell that to the marines............. If you say my CLAIMs are BS.... Parehas ra sa imo Bull crap pud........

ngiga sa ikaw ra ni agi ug college

YES your claims are nothing but HORSECRAP . It only reflects to the members and not to the system and here you are so convinced that the system are breeding grounds for people bound to become MENACE to the SOCIETY .

Prove hakota tanan nimo classmate para mo corroborate nimo.... naa pud ko 1 classroom mo corroborate nako..........

Ngano ako man ang mo hakot ? I can prove it by myself alone with WHAT , WHEN , WHY and WHERE .

Your line of reasoning na ikaw ra ang SAKTO....PIKAT....

I never said I am the only who is right , I did pointed out that you are full of SPECULATIONS and you cant accept it .

So pwede diay ko mo apil sa FRATS or ROtary nya mag gubot-gubot rako nya sawayon sa mga tao ang FRATS or Rotary ngano nag pa apil mani sila ug buang parehas nako....

That is the MISCONCEPTION of you from the very start . CHange it because it is very UNHEALTHY and IGNORANT .

Unbelievable....

Ka specific sa akong example..... Bugoy ug BRat...

Wala ko ni ingom istamby

You never said BUGOY or BRAT , you said ISTAMBAY , bakakon baya nimo dodong .

All the same why Fratmembers go to violence puzzles me..... INUTIL ra gyud ang FRAternity.. Walay gi Barugan

I cant take that away from you , kung asa ka malipayon adto but you will bring that mentality forever not only to the FRAT ISSUE but to all the things in life . A very closeminded individual who likes to make SPECULATIONS become FACTS .

Maayo naka sulti kay na ang Fraternity mo guide.... kay most of the time PASAGDAN ra ug walay PAKI ang FRaternity sa imong gi pang post..........

Mao pay pagsulti nako na puro ra ka SPECULATE , di gyud ka PALIBAK noh ?? Number beh ... 4 , abcD .

what did you prove that i don't know your civic works........... Gusto lang ka mo palabaw sa inyong civic works.... mao na akong gi prove

You dont know JACK crap . You even thought we made WAITING SHEDS but in reality , we just repainted them . From that statement alone , it is not a good pattern of letting you know how things are done the SYSTEM'S way .

KARON ako napud mo GAMIT sa WORD NA............ YOU ARE SPECULATING(mas mo tuo nata ang mga tao diri nga ga speculate ko pero kani labaw pa!!!).. and paghakot dayon ug usa ka barangay no mo support and corroborate your statment............

Aw ni angkon na gyud diay ka na puro lang ka SPECULATE kay na convinced man ka na mo tuo na unta mga tao .

PURE DELUSION and SPECULATION..............

Its either naigo ka DIRECTLY or di nimo madawat because my SCENARIOS are realistically speaking unlike sa imohang mga scenarios na walay relevance .

Don't JUSTIFY the FRATS VIOLENCE just because LION's CLUB or ROtary have rich chinese members on illegal business...... 2 wrongs doesn't justify that your have the right to cause violence

Who said about JUSTIFICATION ?? I only said something regarding what you said hat bisan walay AKRHO , naay mga grupo gihapon na engaged sa HUMANITARIAN SERVICES . Gets ?? Are we on the same page now ??

I suggest you go through the links I provided instead of openning your mouth , it will help you save time from unleashing your nonsense claims and speculations .

[botyok]

the best thing we can do is to hav a bill regarding frats....

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I don't think Frats should be perfect.....

And you almost thought it was PERFECT ? LOLZ !!

Spring can make a FRAT composed of Gigolos.... that is fine by me

Dont get too excited and exaggerate now .... duda lang ko nimo da . WHo are you BTW to say whats fine and whats not ? Do I care ? LOLZ !!

But Frats with hoodlums who disturb society thru violence..... that should be dealt..... its not acceptable to say that its the individual's action..... that individual will always carry the FRats name and reputation.....

If you are still a part of a soceity with that kind of mentality , I pity you . I want to hear your mentality also towards non frat issues like SMUGGELRS , DRUG LORDS , ASSASSINATION FINANCERS , WHITE SLAVERY OPERATORS , PROSTITUTION DEN KINGS etc , does that relate to being a ROTARIAN ? No because the ROTARY has a totally different mission statement that is benefiacial and for the good of all . Those actions are by individuals who are IRRESPONSIBLE . Ayaw ko ug hiriti na nag SPECULATE ko , himu-a na siya ug CONSPIRACY THEORY lolz !!

Why would this brat FRAT individual be proud(hambug) to say he is from this FRaternity.......... that makes him do those thing because he know the FRaternity would side with him..........

You just answered yourself . WHO IS THIS BRAT FRAT ? ARe you implying that all FRATMEMBERS are BRATS ? Have you proven it in BLACK and WHITE DOCUMENT that labanan na sila ? Labanan na sila sa ka brod na suod nila na linya ra ug tinae but it never wa sa FRAT SANCTIONED action .

HE is carrying the name.... and the Frats name gets tarnished....

It is only tarnished if that indivuals thingking is the same as yours . Ngano si TOMAS OSMENA dili man lage TARNISHED iyang tan-aw ?

Did i say its the Fraternity's fault? I only said how could an organization lets a brat Fraternity individual carry their NAME and cause so much violence............. and after commiting violence they are so proud to FRAT ko... Bagsik ko...

Nobody disagreed with you on that last sentenced because it happened also in some entities that is not even close to FRATERNITY . Taga CEBU DOC ko .... cool ko ug panchics . Sa CIS ko skwela unya sa STARBUCKS gyud ko tambay , sikat ko . Ako si DAGGET ganahan pod ko maGIGOLO like SPRING . Are you digging now or you are still lost ??

Frat you say is a brotherhood.......... If you jugs were a brother acting as an individual killed a person and you proudly proclaim I am a Fratmember..... will the Fraternity get a good name out of it

Kadtong gi IMBESTIGAHAN si MARKY YAP sa mga stolen goods ( correct me if I am wrong ) , does that make iSTORYA.net a bogus and breeding ground scammers ?? SCAM ARTIST pod diay ka DAGGET if you havent know yet ? Aw wala man diay ka kaila sa tanan iSTORYANS right ? But you are supposed to know all of us because iSTORYAN man kaha ka .

Blame this blame that.............
Ang ako lang how could a FRAternity lets its IMAGE get TARNISHED.... kana lang tubaga...........

Ako na lang tubag ani kay syaro ug di pa ni siya kasabot . WE never let the IMAGE get TARNISHED . There is always something to blame because ug walay action , walay reaction .

Again , I doubt if you browsed to the links I provided . Go figure , if you read it , huamana unta ka sa mga SUGILANON nimo ug instead ang mga pagsaba saba nimo diri are all questions of the innocent mind and not the JUDGEMENTAL type .

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@ TOLSTOI .... murag wala pa kay last nako na dungog gi imbestigahan pa kay naay mga witness ni duol .

@ endymioun' .... OT lang ta gamay and to clear things up , a fraternity being named INTERNATIONAL needs to be founded outside the Philippines ? WRONG , INTERNATIONAL means , there is presence outsie the country with strong ties being a legit FRATERNITY outside the Philippines thru government recognitions , SEC registered , organization registered and by rasising money that is TAXABLE specially in the US .

- Majority composed of " CHINESE BUSINESSMEN " are meant that those are the majority who are also engaged in wrongdoings and not the majority of the members of the club . How do I know , If I tell you would you believe in me ?

- Brotherhood knows no season and reason . Just because ikaw istambay di na nimo ma brod ang estudyante ug professional ? There is a fine line of BRODS and FRIENDS also and I do hope you know it .

- ANyone can attest incluing myself that TABIS TABIS as an example really existed but dont discount the fact that everyone does it so saying FRATERNITY is really into is a misconception .

@ KAMIKAZE .... gina push ni DAGGET na walay gibuhat ang fraternity . Simple as that , pero di niya ma prove kay nag SPECULATE ra man siya . How about ako namusil ko na dili FRAT RELATED but because gi testingan lang nako ang bag-ong bull barrel sa akong XD40 , does it justify na nagpaka ulaw ko sa AKP ? NO because the FRAT didnt do it but only me . Gi tabangan nako ang ig-agaw nako kay gikulata siya sa asawa sa iyang kabit , does it justify na barumbado ang AKP ? Gi ingnan ka na TABIS TABIS man ka BIRAHAN karon , does it justify na ang AKP pasingit kaayo ?

@ JERX .... not necessarily . Can you imagine kung walay leader and usa ka grupo ? Include all that is applicable in a society then figure out if CHAOS is indeed just around the corner . Leaders may have shortcomings but to anyones knowledge specially those who are NON FRAT MEMBERS , you cant judge them on their leadership skills just because naay VIOLENCE ni exist as an example . Like I said , wala pa kaha na ma extinct ang TGP kung gibuhian na Ni Buscaino ang iyahang mga sundalo ?

[dagget]

Did i say its the Fraternity's fault? I only said how could an organization lets a brat Fraternity individual carry their NAME and cause so much violence............. and after commiting violence they are so proud to FRAT ko... Bagsik ko...

read this quote from you:
I don't think Frats should be perfect.....
its not acceptable to say that its the individual's action.....

QUESTION: why IS IT NOT acceptable in the first place? who initiated the action? nobody else did..

Frat you say is a brotherhood.......... If you jugs were a brother acting as an individual killed a person and you proudly proclaim I am a Fratmember..... will the Fraternity get a good name out of it

give me a certain link to a news story that someone actually killed somebody and after the crime, he proudly proclaimed that he's a member of Akhro or Tau gamma..

parehas ra na jug ikaw ga carry sa family name sa imong papa............. kung ni pusil patay ka ug tao mga naa sa wrong place at the wrong time....

ma unsa man imong papa.... ma unsa man inyong family name.... malipay ba imong ginikinan sa ilang family name....

of course not.. but again, is it enough reason to blame the parents for such? if the kid did something wrong, does that mean the parents were not that responsible in raising the child well? cz mura man gud imo gpalabas, dautan kaayo ang mga frat kay lagi ang member mao ni.. mao na..

think outside the box dude..

Think outside the box....

Wako mo ingon sala to sa imong parents or blame imong parents............ Unsay nalang ang huna-huna sa imong ginikanan.. dili sila ma uwaw sa imong na buhat? dili sila ma shock nga na TARNISHED ilang family sa gi buhat nimo..........

In other words.... I expect the FRAT to come clean.... Image and reputation is important....

Mao na ang think outside the box

Kung ni ingon ko not acceptable.... its because Frats let their name get TArnished by this individuals........

[dagget]

If you are still a part of a soceity with that kind of mentality , I pity you . I want to hear your mentality also towards non frat issues like SMUGGELRS , DRUG LORDS , ASSASSINATION FINANCERS , WHITE SLAVERY OPERATORS , PROSTITUTION DEN KINGS etc , does that relate to being a ROTARIAN ? No because the ROTARY has a totally different mission statement that is benefiacial and for the good of all . Those actions are by individuals who are IRRESPONSIBLE . Ayaw ko ug hiriti na nag SPECULATE ko , himu-a na siya ug CONSPIRACY THEORY lolz !!

Asa man ang proof(Mao sad ni favorite statement gi hulam nako nimo)..... if you can't show anything.... just Speculate....


I were a DRUG LORD, SMUGGLER or GAMBLING LORD.... i think ORGANIZATIONS WITH INTERGRITY WILL NO ACCEPT ME and will VIGOROUSLY BLOCK MY application to the point of PUBLISHING ME IN THE NATIONAL NEWSPAPER............. if ROTARIANS accept me........... I will be laughing out so loud i could die..... how could a rotartina admit a criminal like me.........

If THIS IS HOW A FRATS work accepting a criminal like me............ I could turn the FRATS into my criminal GANG with all my talents and abilities.......... CAN the FRAt leader stop me?

Ngano nag PEACE PACT man mo.... Nga ingon man ka walay sayop na buhat ang FRATS.... Dili ka mo admit wala moy sayop.... Whats the use of the PEACE PACT....

Ngano nag peace pact ? To damage control the situation because nobody , I say NOBODY and NONE at all can solve the problem but the FRATERNITY itself . Now tell me who is not admitting and not guiding the gone astray brods ?

Usa to? damage control...... at least ni dawat naka na ka cause mo ug DAMAGE....

PEACE PACT was made because of GUBOT.... Salamat ni gawas na ang tinuod.... kay patay na ta ko ug apil.... kung walay peace pact....

kung namatay pako..... thats proof enough THERE IS VIOLENCE...

KARON ako napud mo GAMIT sa WORD NA............ YOU ARE SPECULATING(mas mo tuo nata ang mga tao diri nga ga speculate ko pero kani labaw pa!!!).. and paghakot dayon ug usa ka barangay no mo support and corroborate your statment............

Aw ni angkon na gyud diay ka na puro lang ka SPECULATE kay na convinced man ka na mo tuo na unta mga tao .

Hapit nata mo bilib ang mga tao nimo pero................ PAg ingom nimo nga ang ROTARY UG LION'S CLUB composed of majority ILLEGAL CHINESE BUSINESSMEN............ KANI PROVES maayo pud ka mo SPECULATE

Be consistent.............

So pwede diay ko mo apil sa FRATS or ROtary nya mag gubot-gubot rako nya sawayon sa mga tao ang FRATS or Rotary ngano nag pa apil mani sila ug buang parehas nako....

That is the MISCONCEPTION of you from the very start . CHange it because it is very UNHEALTHY and IGNORANT .

if you read.....

Spring said: individuals don't join Fraternity to become good.....( i agree)


I said: individuals should join a Fraternity and not give it a BAD IMAGE.... (you said i was wrong)

here is the link:

https://www.istorya.net/forums/index....801#msg1906801

and the quote:
basaha..........

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Kung people join groups not to become good (I agree just let me add also)
they should also join groups and not give it a BAD IMAGE............. correct or wrong ko?Huh?

WRONG KA .

Kung wrong ko....

then okay ra diay mag pabadlong ko and damage the image of the Fraternity that i joined....

YES your claims are nothing but HORSECRAP

Well everybody who went to college said FRATmembers really like to mug people and say Tabis-tabis raba....... so tell everyone also that this is horse crap.....

or your claims that its not true( Fratmembers never do that) is pure CRAP..........

Kadtong gi IMBESTIGAHAN si MARKY YAP sa mga stolen goods ( correct me if I am wrong ) , does that make iSTORYA.net a bogus and breeding ground scammers ?? SCAM ARTIST pod diay ka DAGGET if you havent know yet ? Aw wala man diay ka kaila sa tanan iSTORYANS right ? But you are supposed to know all of us because iSTORYAN man kaha ka .

In the first place the administrators waited unitl investigation showed mark was innocent..... if mark did an illegal transaction..... Istorya.net could be pointed out as a place to do illegal deals....

That is why image is important..... ang the administrators are vigilant.... Do you see anyone selling of PIRATED DVDs here? Image and reputation is important to istorya.net

WE never let the IMAGE get TARNISHED . There is always something to blame because ug walay action , walay reaction .

usnay may reaction sa action............ GUBOT sa..................

[The_Child]

Like ROTARY and LIONS CLUB majority composed of FILTHY RICH CHINESE BUSINESSMEN of ILLEGAL in NATURE BUSINESESS ?? LOLZ !!

ILLEGAL EH? ...
Do you wanna prove that? or are you just accusing for the sake of something to say about it.





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[dagget]

Its either naigo ka DIRECTLY or di nimo madawat because my SCENARIOS are realistically speaking unlike sa imohang mga scenarios na walay relevance .

Dream on.......... ngano ma igo gud ko.... mura dili pako mo qualify sa lion's club or rotary.... diri lang sa among kapelya mag presidente sa ko.............

basi ikaw naigo..... Nga ang FRATS walay gi BARUGAN... and they just LET miss-guided individuals do anything and in the processTARNISHED the FRATS REPUTATION and INTEGRITY....

[dagget]

to jugs.....

Here is an example about reputation and integrity......

http://www.truthorfiction.com/rumors...chandeddie.htm

Butch and Eddie O'Hare: The War Hero Whose Father Was a Partner With Gangster Al Capone.........

Some years earlier there was a man in Chicago called Easy Eddie. At that time, Al Capon virtually owned the city. Capone wasn't famous for anything heroic. His exploits were anything but praiseworthy. He was, however, notorious for enmeshing the city of Chicago in everything from bootlegged booze and prostitution to murder. Easy Eddie was Capone's lawyer and for a good reason. He was very good! In fact, his skill at legal maneuvering kept Big Al out of jail for a long time. To show his appreciation, Capone paid him very well. Not only was the money big; Eddie got special dividends. For instance, he and his family occupied a fenced-in mansion with live-in help and all of the conveniences of the day. The estate was so large that it filled an entire Chicago city block. Yes, Eddie lived the high life of the Chicago mob and gave little consideration to the atrocity that went on around him. Eddy did have one soft spot, however. He had a son that he loved dearly. Eddy saw to it that his young son had the best of everything; clothes, cars, and a good education. Nothing was withheld. Price was no object. And, despite his involvement with organized crime, Eddie even tried to teach him right from wrong. Yes, Eddie tried to teach his son to rise above his own sordid life. He wanted him to be a better man than he was. Yet, with all his wealth and influence, there were two things that Eddie couldn't give his son. Two things that Eddie sacrificed to the Capone mob that he could not pass on to his beloved son: a good name and a good example.

One day, Easy Eddie reached a difficult decision. Offering his son a good name was far more important than all the riches he could lavish on him. He had to rectify all the wrong that he had done. He would go to the authorities and tell the truth about Scar-face Al Capone. He would try to clean up his tarnished name and offer his son some semblance of integrity. To do this he must testify against The Mob, and he knew that the cost would be great. But more than anything, he wanted to be an example to his son. He wanted to do his best to make restoration and hopefully have a good name to leave his son. So, he testified. Within the year, Easy Eddie's life ended in a blaze of gunfire on a lonely Chicago street. He had given his son the greatest gift he had to offer at the greatest price he would ever pay.

NAME and INTEGRITY..... that is the bottom line.... Please pay your respect everytime you go to chicago's o'hare airport.....

[potterboy]

bai, likay lang ta sa generalization ha. mao ra gyud na akong hangyo nimo.

i have been a good fratman. and i have known a lot of other fratmen just like me. i have friends from both sides with the same ideals.