MERGED: Tau Gamma and Akhro to be branded as 'violent groups' (poll)

[dagget]

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cool down peeps....

dont close ur eyes and ur mind, its just becuase of that two fraternity nga nag away.... why dont u try to search what is fraternity means?

my boss and owner of this company i worked for is fratman

my second boss is a fratman

dont tell me that they are killlers like what u describe as a fratman...

u always count those bad things, but u are blind of those good things what is fraternity means...

im not a fratman, i just read and listen each others opinion,

what if Fratman ka, then karon usa naka ka succesfull buznisman with the help of your brod sa imong frat,

then na-a dayon mo balita nga ma basa nmo nga tanan fraternity sa eskuylahan tang-tangon kay wa nay ayo nag hatag lang og gobot sa sa publiko

Makabasa dayon ka deri sa istorya.net

"wa manay ayo mga frat2x oi burit2x man lang sila unsa kahay makat-onan ana nila...."


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Its the violence sir

They keep mentioning their good deeds.

Is stopping the violence NOT a GOOD DEED for them?? do they just tolerate VIOLENCE?

Maglain ba ilang tiyan kung mo ingon sila stop the violence??

That's the question many want to be answered... how many families have lost love ones, friends, relatives.....

[M@rv|n]

i really dont get the idea of why they are very hot with each other!! where in fact they even don't have debts with each other!!

motuo pa kog magpatay ang mga tawo kung naa clay utang nga kwarta sa usag- usa pero kaning mga akrho ug tau gamma, lahi mani ilang trip!! bisag wlay rason mag patay nalng jud!!! saun man ni cla oi!!! ma among ra ba jud tung wlay labot!!!! tsk....tsk...tsk...tsk

it is better nga mawagtang nalang jud ning mga tawhana kay morag threat namn cla sa mga kabatan-unan ron oi! dli namn na cla fratman kundi mga killers namn na cla!!!

there have been many threads regarding fraternity nga ni sulod dire nga forum!!! and usually ang akong pirmi mabasahan kay kana ra jung mga patay nga ambot unsay rason nganong gipatay!! karon nana sad ni!! daghan nasad gorog nabiktima ang mga duha ka gropu!!!?

dugay naman jud ni bhay ... murag wala pako matao nagka initay nani sila ang akong na dunggan rumors nalang nga ang akp gi unhan sa tgp or ang tgp gi unhan sa akp so bali baws baws naman lang ni cla ... labi pa jud pakapinan sa pride ug sa panultihon nga walay sukod sa baws.... lisod na kaau pagtrace kng kinsa jud ang naka sala or kinsa jud ang naka una.

[jugs_06]

Its the violence sir

They keep mentioning their good deeds.

Is stopping the violence NOT a GOOD DEED for them?? do they just tolerate VIOLENCE?

Maglain ba ilang tiyan kung mo ingon sila stop the violence??

That's the question many want to be answered... how many families have lost love ones, friends, relatives.....

in one point or another, i agree with some of your statements.. but please refrain from generalizing and seeing a WHOLE GROUP as bad.. remember, fraternities are there not for violence but for brotherhood.. what made their image bad is the fact that some recruited members go out of the way.. instead of doing good, they embrace violence which is way too far from the mentioned fraternity's goal and mission..

let's look at the small pieces of the big scenario.. and not judge the fraternity as a whole.. coz you'll gonna end up stepping on someone in the process.. i don't belong to any fraternity, but it seems kinda biased to other members who never engaged in any violence and instead, did something good for the public..

[P-Chan]

why can't they all get along? ngano naa man gud gubot.. nag add lang gud sila ug problems diri.. what really started it? why can't they negosiate for peace ana na gud sila ka childish?

[potterboy]

well, nobody recruited me. I joined.
when we do community projects, we do it as a family. not as an individual.
when a fratmember messes up, its not the family that caused him to do it, but his individuality. it is his decision to be so. not the frat's.

and mind you people. we have gone toooooo faaaaaaaar to take action to control the spreading of the stain. we just dont parade what we did for people to know it.

amaw lang gyud na ang member nga buangon. (redundant)[br]Posted on: August 15, 2006, 07:38:02 AM_________________________________________________w hen you generalize things, you close your mind. you end up looking at a door and forcibly open it without realizing there is a door knob.

sus, ang mga pari raba ron kay cge na ug skandalo... tsk tsk tsk... so what should we brand the church then? should we generalize our impression?

let's look at the small pieces of the big scenario.. and not judge the fraternity as a whole.. coz you'll gonna end up stepping on someone in the process.. i don't belong to any fraternity, but it seems kinda biased to other members who never engaged in any violence and instead, did something good for the public..

that makes sense.

[Metz]

mao man ang dakong problem, ang childish and unruly members in both sides.
maski naa nay peace agreement ang mga tarong na members, naa juy mohirit sa ubos kay mao lagi ang bawos way sukod

[The_Child]

it boils down to this: It is not the essence or founding prinicples of these fraternities that are important but the self-image it portrays to the public in other words, "actions speaks louder than words' . What does the public think and why does the public think so? isnt their thinking based on some truth? if not do we
Blame media? if we would blame media then we would say that our media is not "a bastion of truth" anymore so if that is so, then what is? public owns view which is held true vs. these fraternities held truths, everybody then has his own truth.

What the public thinks is based on the self-image portrayed by these frats... is it the public faults because they react on what they perceive?

the burden lies on these fraternities to somehow improve their self-image by trying to correct some faults or trying to correct misconceptions.

[kamikaze426]

Springfield and dagget both have points..

in Springfields case, ang iya lang is not to generalize as a whole ang frat, they are doing some good things man but sad to say the bad and undiciplined individuals of their respective fraternities steals the spotlight.

for dagget, all he is asking is why the respective fraternities cannot control or discipline the "action packed" members, The leaders have responsibilities also for the certain individuals actions. And ang mga incident is rival fraternity related man gud, so connected ra ghapon sa group, may ta ug petty crimes ra ila g buhat, peoples lives are at stake man gud even innocent ones.

[cool]

its impossible to control your members, specially if they are under the influence of booze. dali ra mag away. inig ka ogma magmahay dayon.
grabe na ron kay magpinosilay na.

sa frat naay mga maldito og bootan magsagol.
usually ang mga bootan naa sa balay gatoon.
ang mga maldito naa sa bar nag inom, homan dali ra makakitag away.

[kamikaze426]

sakto ka cool, it is impossible to control your members, but as a group they should find ways and means para ma avoid or solve this kind of problem. Dili d i puede mag amigo if you are from different fraternities? Puede man cguro mag rival pero in a good way, like kinsa ang pinakadgahan ma tuli.. mga good deeds bah, dili kung kinsa pinaka daghan na head count nga na tumba.

pero lisod2x napud ni kay nasgulan naman gud ang group ug individuals nga gamay ug utok, gubot ra ang gi apas, mao nalang na ang dako nga challenge sa mga leaders of the said fraternity.