Wikipedia on RH Bill: after reading it, what is your stand?

[Xilcher]

and multiply! and leave your kids running around the streets, malnourished and sick! and blame the government for not giving jobs and providing food and shelter for those who multiplied and does not have food...

Correct!

The Goverment should be responsible and always will be..
But... in others ways not on Abortion Bills..

Education..is one solution..

If your children are malnourished and sick..and you are jobless..
Blame yourself..I dont believe that a person that was born poor will also die poor..

"AmorsoloX" would agree to me..(The saving Guru)


There are also plenty of jobs offered ..but.. sad reality.. only few are qualified..
Why? Poor education program...

I dont understand why Pnoy..did not give enough budget for education sector.
..
Maybe bcoz He dont like having children..and like to live a bachelor 4ever..
..

[calibre]

unsa nag na.a sa rh bill

[AmorsoloX]

Correct!

There are also plenty of jobs offered ..but.. sad reality.. only few are qualified..
Why? Poor education program...

I dont understand why Pnoy..did not give enough budget for education sector.
..
Maybe bcoz He dont like having children..and like to live a bachelor 4ever..
..

headshot! hehehe... as far as it matters, Pnoy is only focusing on popular stuff. those that garner media attention.. he really is afraid of the dirty but necessary work..

agree here.. very poor education program.. and also, the lack of effective information dessimination.. the government should spend more on information campaigns about its programs, that way, there is transparency and the people will be opened to new ideas..

but still, i dont agree on the responsibility of the government.. its purpose is that you have access to goods and services.. kung naa ka kwarta o wala.. imo na nah problema.. kanya2x diskarte ta dire. hehehe

it is not the duty of the government to buy food for you.. dapat maningkamot jud ka... the government is not your sugar daddy

[jay_sn0w]

Correct!

The Goverment should be responsible and always will be..
But... in others ways not on Abortion Bills..

Education..is one solution..

If your children are malnourished and sick..and you are jobless..
Blame yourself..I dont believe that a person that was born poor will also die poor..

"AmorsoloX" would agree to me..(The saving Guru)


There are also plenty of jobs offered ..but.. sad reality.. only few are qualified..
Why? Poor education program...

I dont understand why Pnoy..did not give enough budget for education sector.
..
Maybe bcoz He dont like having children..and like to live a bachelor 4ever..
..

hmmmm... pro-life (pro church policy) supporters are evolving...hhehehe...good of them....



i dont get the point of blaming the government...

never play the blame game on the government since they are really crappy, so whats to blame? even the roads are crappy dont expect the education system not to crappy....


but i do get the point of blaming some PRO-life activist which preach GO FORTH AND MULTIPLY ALL the time...and telling our lesser educated and lesser wiser countrymen that GOD will take care and PROVIDE ALWAYS....


BUT i do support abortion, why just because it gives a person a choice...just because we are growing so fast that we cant FEED our people without SUBSIDIZING food from the pockets of the govt(yes some are misused but still thats added expense)


ABORTION for me is a short fix....LOOK AT CHINA they turned out okay...


If your thinking wait?!, your a COMMIE!?...then if it means having a quality life yes, im a commie...




wake up china 20 years ago is not china now!...i've been to china they are really progressive...

most people have cars (not just mid entry cars but luxury cars...yes i have a friend who's a police officer (daku no-un ug rako) he has a BMW and a condo) do you think even a general her can afford a BMW?


just look at the average income of people in china...you'll see that its much bigger than here....



dont mix china communism with NORTH KOREA COMMUNISM


wait how about the human rights abuse?!, wait singapore hanged people on its early years when Philippines was number 2 in asia (2 peso - 1 US DOLLAR)



i dont really know that if abortion would be a good thing or a bad thing (controlling of population)....BUT it worked for some of our neighbors...


for me deciding on one thing would require PAST experiences or PAST EXAMPLES....

you learn from other peoples success ....

[jay_sn0w]

dont ASSUME just because you think principals and/or philosophical thinking...


you assume based on the examples which u see and which you can hold (that being countries which are progressive are those with either strong policy about abortion(they allow) or those with little population)


i dont get the point of having a policy that promotes HIGH birth rate in a country that CANT feed its people...



....you make an ASS (of) U (and) ME when u ASSUME...better to assume on something that worked out well rather than assuming something that is based on principles that has yet to be proved correct...

[unsay_ngalan_nimo]

really just to make the RH bill into a law and get away with the right of health workers from providing advise against their wills then we better have a list of doctors and hospitals and health centers and their religious affiliation... ex:

DR. Xilcher
OB Catholic (Natural Family PLanning Only)

DR. Amorsolo X
OB (Natural and Artificial Family Planning)

really we should have this...



we should not always blame the government.. really... because the government is but a reflection of the collective will of the people... )

[Xilcher]

really just to make the RH bill into a law and get away with the right of health workers from providing advise against their wills then we better have a list of doctors and hospitals and health centers and their religious affiliation... ex:

DR. Xilcher
OB Catholic (Natural Family PLanning Only)

DR. Amorsolo X
OB (Natural and Artificial Family Planning)

really we should have this...



we should not always blame the government.. really... because the government is but a reflection of the collective will of the people... )

Wrong...
I'm not for Natural Methods only..
I agree with condoms..vasectomy and pills(not the abortive type)
But take note.. I'm against any contraceptive method that kills..
hope its would be clear for you madam..

My Stand is...ngano pugson man ang usa ka bill nga palpak
If they can revise it and end up clean??
simple instructions cannot understnd?hehhe

Thats' why..It's clear that all those Bill supporters are Devil's Advocates
including our Abnoynoy.. tsk tsk tsk..

[AmorsoloX]

i dont get the point of having a policy that promotes HIGH birth rate in a country that CANT feed its people...

yup.. i really dont understand some people sab.. ngano promote2x sila og high birth-rate when grabe na kaau kalisod mag-support og anak..

they think that if you have many kids, they will support u when your old.. when your old, they have many kids sab.. so apil nka nagburden sa ilaha...

i dont know why some people dont see this simple picture...

maybe gusto nila mag-dawat ra sila dole-outs gkan sa goberno.. - its this people who i call are the real commies...

there is a certain group that wants you to be miserable and poor.. it is the PRIESTS & BISHOPS OF THE CATHOLIC CHURCH.. its simple really.. they think that if you are comfortable in your life, you will forget GOD. if you forget GOD, you stop going to church, stop supporting church activities, and you will no longer follow the preachings/(wali) of the priests. if you will not follow them, the church loses political support.. the church doesnt want that.. it wants you to support its agendas... lets face it.. the church is a political monster covering itself in holy cloth...

we should not always blame the government.. really... because the government is but a reflection of the collective will of the people... )

correct.. and may i add also.. the government is not our sugar daddy/mommy... a corrupt government is the reflection of a corrupt population...

di ta dapat magsalig sa goberno.. di ta dapat magsalig sa lain tao.. we are the masters of our destiny.. kung naa ta gusto.. himuon jud nato..

the RH-bill is not a battle for the lives of the unborn child.. its a battle between the govt. and the church on who gets to say the final word... the people are only pawns... do not under-estimate the church.. it has large supporters of ignorant-masses willing to die as martyrs when awaiting what the church instructions... kung mo sulti ang mga pari nga "mag welga ta".. kabalo nata unsa mahitabo (ex. EDSA uno,dos,tres,kwatro.......)

[hush232002]

the issue is always focused on the RCC stand that the RCC is againts some of the RH bill contents and instead of being negative the RCC should have helped the poor...i dont know what other people mean when they say help the poor..maybe provide homes to the homeless, give jobs etc.....trabaho man tawn na sa goberno oi.

[AmorsoloX]

the issue is always focused on the RCC stand that the RCC is againts some of the RH bill contents and instead of being negative the RCC should have helped the poor...i dont know what other people mean when they say help the poor..maybe provide homes to the homeless, give jobs etc.....trabaho man tawn na sa goberno oi.

the RCC DOES NOT want to help the poor.. but the RCC WANTS YOU to help the poor...

the RCC doesnt want to spend its resources...

the govt. can only provide the most basic services.. dli trabaho sa goberno nga buhion ka.. dapat modiskarte jud..

the job of the government is not to provide you with goods and services.. the job of the government is to provide you ACCESS to goods and services...