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  1. #41

    Quote Originally Posted by rynzco View Post
    ahahaha kitay gi brainwashed sa simbahan bro maoy nay pinakasakto ayaw baliha.....


    peace
    haha imuha sad na bro...bsta ako that's where I stand.......

  2. #42
    Wikipedia? holy guacamole..... you should take wikipedia with a grain of salt.... i mean a sack of salt...


    anyways.... im always PRO-RH bill...

  3. #43
    Quote Originally Posted by Saga View Post
    I do no get it when they say that revised RH bill is the same with Abortion.

    Technically, what is abortion? when do we commit the act of abortion?

    At 5 days from pregnancy, there is no heart beat, no brain, its just a cell attached to the wall. Technically and scientifically speaking will we consider that a live human being already?

    Also, we forgot to talk about unwanted pregnancy from rape victims. IN U.S. they have this morning after pill, they give this to rape victim to cancel pregnancy. We should have that option here.

    And also, RH is about educating us. What's so coercive about it? It's not like we are forced to take those medicines and practices. It's still up to us to use what we learn or not at all.
    That higlighted portion of your statement is what differentiate us pinoys from americans..
    or should i say..the battle versus good and bad..hehehe
    We live by our good morals and values and believe that only God has the right to end human life..

    Ending "unwanted pregnancy" is the basis..but no matter how you cloak it..the main intention is to kill..to abort..
    Mao na gi debatehan bro! i wont expand anymore.. it has been discussed!

    Balik balik na ug tuyok tuyok atoa mga opinions..
    pero bottomline..simple ra ang debate..

    "to kill or not to kill?' ... you decide...


  4. #44
    Quote Originally Posted by emow View Post
    aw, shortage of hospitals na pud imu blema ana bai....lol pwede mu balibad ang driver ui, kung tanaw niya kawatan kag nawng, nganu gud risgohon niya iya kinabuhi....hahahaha
    lol... i think it would be better then if a list of hospitals (and doctors na rin siguro) would be available to the people indicating their religious affiliation... i mean if you want some advice on artificial fam planning you have an idea which hospitals to go and avoid.. applies with doctors too...

  5. #45
    Quote Originally Posted by unsay_ngalan_nimo View Post
    lol... i think it would be better then if a list of hospitals (and doctors na rin siguro) would be available to the people indicating their religious affiliation... i mean if you want some advice on artificial fam planning you have an idea which hospitals to go and avoid.. applies with doctors too...
    yeah right and then.. put a warning..

    "chong-doc hospital - We save lives but we also kill babies you dont like"


    or

    "You are safe, We Kill Legally"

    "Babies with defects are not allowed to live..we kill them"
    "No place for ugly babies here"
    "Mongoloids era will end now"
    "Science only allow perfect babies"


    ..what is this about? apocalypse ?

    (I remember the movie "Gatacca"
    Gattaca (1997) - IMDb
    Where human genes and those with perfect DNA excel in society..
    This is becoming against human rights already.... )

    tsk tsk tsk...
    Its a great insult to medical practice...their pledge is to save..how can they handle such situation..
    What a slap to their face..i wont wonder if majority of Doctors will oppose this bill..


    ... funny right...what an irony..
    Last edited by Xilcher; 10-21-2010 at 02:16 PM.

  6. #46
    These proponents of the bill are basically putting the blame of poverty on population.... Tinoud, it can slow down population when OC's can be given here and there, and condoms be given here and there....but that doesn't address the poverty NOW.... how much funding would it demand for people to engage in leisure ***, limitless anytime of the day, 24/7/365.... multiply that to 29M poor people.... kwentaha tag pila na mga oc's, condoms, etc.... its a good way of controlling population but a very weak solution on poverty.... what happens to a still-poor person who does nothing except *** with his wife, using n number of ocs/condoms, etc.... it worked for other countries, that are rich....but there will be sacrifices.... its not the most productive solution to poverty.... give more opportunities for the poor to stop them from copulating with their wives because they have other things to do....WORK! lol

  7. #47
    Quote Originally Posted by Xilcher View Post
    yeah right and then.. put a warning..

    "chong-doc hospital - We save lives but we also kill babies you dont like"


    or

    "You are safe, We Kill Legally"

    "Babies with defects are not allowed to live..we kill them"
    "No place for ugly babies here"
    "Mongoloids era will end now"
    "Science only allow perfect babies"


    ..what is this about? apocalypse ?

    (I remember the movie "Gatacca"
    Gattaca (1997) - IMDb
    Where human genes and those with perfect DNA excel in society..
    This is becoming against human rights already.... )

    tsk tsk tsk...
    Its a great insult to medical practice...their pledge is to save..how can they handle such situation..
    What a slap to their face..i wont wonder if majority of Doctors will oppose this bill..


    ... funny right...what an irony..
    cheap shot.. or they could say... "we wont judge, we'll just advise, you decide."

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    RH Bill, as I understand it, will not make you use contraceptives. It does not oblige you to use one. It simply gives you the knowledge to decide for yourself if you would like to use one. And if you decide to use one, to make sure there will be available services for you. What is so coercive with that?

    Aborfecient methods. IUD, etc. People, thru this bill, will have access to information regarding these methods. It is up to the individual to decide for themselves which method they would like to use. As I have said, dili man ni pugsanay. Kung unsay imong gusto ug unsay pagtoo nimo na maayo, its your choice.

    True. Contraception has been around for decades. I used one myself. And generations before me have used it at some time. We are informed. We have choices. But is this true to those living in the suburbs? Is this true to those living in far flung barangays who dont even get to go to grade school? Is this true to those who barely eat 3 times a day much more go to an internet to browse? And mind you, these are people who usually have 5 or more children.

    I would rather be called a killer because I plan my family and because I am responsible enough to use contraceptives than to be called a prolife and then born a child in this world and neglect them after, to born a child and let it roam in the streets, to born a child and not guide him or her and possibly raise a drug addict, to born a child I cannot afford to feed, to born a child I cannot afford to send to school.

  9. #49
    Quote Originally Posted by em_b View Post
    RH Bill, as I understand it, will not make you use contraceptives. It does not oblige you to use one. It simply gives you the knowledge to decide for yourself if you would like to use one. And if you decide to use one, to make sure there will be available services for you. What is so coercive with that?

    Aborfecient methods. IUD, etc. People, thru this bill, will have access to information regarding these methods. It is up to the individual to decide for themselves which method they would like to use. As I have said, dili man ni pugsanay. Kung unsay imong gusto ug unsay pagtoo nimo na maayo, its your choice.

    True. Contraception has been around for decades. I used one myself. And generations before me have used it at some time. We are informed. We have choices. But is this true to those living in the suburbs? Is this true to those living in far flung barangays who dont even get to go to grade school? Is this true to those who barely eat 3 times a day much more go to an internet to browse? And mind you, these are people who usually have 5 or more children.

    I would rather be called a killer because I plan my family and because I am responsible enough to use contraceptives than to be called a prolife and then born a child in this world and neglect them after, to born a child and let it roam in the streets, to born a child and not guide him or her and possibly raise a drug addict, to born a child I cannot afford to feed, to born a child I cannot afford to send to school.
    bravo sister.. i agree... we make the CHOICE we just need to know the CHOICES..

  10. #50
    Quote Originally Posted by Xilcher View Post
    That higlighted portion of your statement is what differentiate us pinoys from americans..
    or should i say..the battle versus good and bad..hehehe
    We live by our good morals and values and believe that only God has the right to end human life..

    Ending "unwanted pregnancy" is the basis..but no matter how you cloak it..the main intention is to kill..to abort..
    Mao na gi debatehan bro! i wont expand anymore.. it has been discussed!

    Balik balik na ug tuyok tuyok atoa mga opinions..
    pero bottomline..simple ra ang debate..

    "to kill or not to kill?' ... you decide...


    cguro it was god's will nga ma rape xa and it is a good thing for her

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