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  1. #91

    As I said maam, he or she who makes the first allegation, has the burden of proving the allegation. Your claim, that mas dili ta ka afford og balay kung mapasa ni nga bill.. asa imong proof maam. Gahulat ko..

  2. #92
    Quote Originally Posted by RMK711 View Post
    As I said maam, he or she who makes the first allegation, has the burden of proving the allegation. Your claim, that mas dili ta ka afford og balay kung mapasa ni nga bill.. asa imong proof maam. Gahulat ko..
    wala ko proof kai poor ako analysis

    Quote Originally Posted by RMK711 View Post
    maam kasabot ka sa termino nga gigamit nimo.. ingon ka "maka afford na dayon" doesn't that mean "I can afford right away, as in instantly" sorry ha kung sayop akong translation.. pero wurag sakto man na. Ni ingon ka nga niingon ko "maka afford na dayon" inya imong ebidensya kay niingon ko "I see no evidence nga fewer people can afford.

    Is it not correct nga ang statement "maka afford na dayon" is not equivalent to "I see no evidence nga fewer people can afford." As I said maam, you need to know what you are talking about before talking. Niclaim man kaha ka (aw si Tommy Osmena diay) nga mas dili maka afford ang mga tao kung mapasa ang bill.. so asa man imong proof? Katong mga calculation 2x nimo? Hahaha...
    oki.. so kung ma himo na ug RA ning bill...naa ta trabaho ... then dili lang gihapon ta maka afford ug house and lot... ngano ato a mani suporta an?

  3. #93
    Kung wala kay proof.. ayaw nalang allege. Kung wala kay proof.. tapos na ang discussion. case closed na haha =P balik lang ko kung maka-substantiate na ka sa imong claim arun lingaw. =)

  4. #94
    Quote Originally Posted by RMK711 View Post
    Kung wala kay proof.. ayaw nalang allege. Kung wala kay proof.. tapos na ang discussion. case closed na haha =P balik lang ko kung maka-substantiate na ka sa imong claim arun lingaw. =)
    hehehehe
    ikaw.. sir.. naa ka proof nga
    Quote Originally Posted by RMK711 View Post
    I don't see any evidence that fewer people will be able to afford a house
    Quote Originally Posted by RMK711 View Post
    maam kasabot ka sa termino nga gigamit nimo.. ingon ka "maka afford na dayon" doesn't that mean "I can afford right away, as in instantly" sorry ha kung sayop akong translation.. pero wurag sakto man na. Ni ingon ka nga niingon ko "maka afford na dayon" inya imong ebidensya kay niingon ko "I see no evidence nga fewer people can afford.

    Is it not correct nga ang statement "maka afford na dayon" is not equivalent to "I see no evidence nga fewer people can afford." As I said maam, you need to know what you are talking about before talking. Niclaim man kaha ka (aw si Tommy Osmena diay) nga mas dili maka afford ang mga tao kung mapasa ang bill.. so asa man imong proof? Katong mga calculation 2x nimo? Hahaha...
    oki.. so kung ma himo na ug RA ning bill...naa ta trabaho ... then dili lang gihapon ta maka afford ug house and lot... ngano ato a mani suporta an?

  5. #95
    Quote Originally Posted by RMK711 View Post
    Your claim, that mas dili ta ka afford og balay kung mapasa ni nga bill.. asa imong proof maam. Gahulat ko..
    Quote Originally Posted by RMK711 View Post
    Kung wala kay proof.. ayaw nalang allege. Kung wala kay proof.. tapos na ang discussion. case closed na haha =P balik lang ko kung maka-substantiate na ka sa imong claim arun lingaw. =)
    Chamber to retool Cebu ecozone bill - INQUIRER.net, Philippine News for Filipinos

    He said the trend of urban migration would worsen as people flock to the city for jobs, increasing the urban poor population and need for services.

    Quote Originally Posted by BIGMAN View Post
    Do you know the Law of Supply and Demand Sir?

  6. #96
    Quote Originally Posted by masakiton View Post
    Chamber to retool Cebu ecozone bill - INQUIRER.net, Philippine News for Filipinos

    He said the trend of urban migration would worsen as people flock to the city for jobs, increasing the urban poor population and need for services.

    Can you prove that people will flock to the city?

    Isn't the bill going to apply to the entire province, eg. the tax break will apply to the whole province and not just the city of Cebu?

    This doesn't prove anything, by the way. A claim is not equal to proof...

  7. #97
    Quote Originally Posted by RMK711 View Post
    Can you prove that people will flock to the city?
    Isn't the bill going to apply to the entire province, eg. the tax break will apply to the whole province and not just the city of Cebu?
    This doesn't prove anything, by the way. A claim is not equal to proof...
    wala tingali naka suwat nga cebu city sa ako gi post
    diba ang cebu island kai daghan mga city
    proof.. singapore... ang mga taw sa silingan nga nasud nang larga padung singapore para maka kita ug trabaho
    nya karon ang property market na himo na issue kai cge na ug saka ang prisyo

    Quote Originally Posted by RMK711 View Post
    I don't see any evidence that fewer people will be able to afford a house
    Quote Originally Posted by RMK711 View Post
    maam kasabot ka sa termino nga gigamit nimo.. ingon ka "maka afford na dayon" doesn't that mean "I can afford right away, as in instantly" sorry ha kung sayop akong translation.. pero wurag sakto man na. Ni ingon ka nga niingon ko "maka afford na dayon" inya imong ebidensya kay niingon ko "I see no evidence nga fewer people can afford.

    Is it not correct nga ang statement "maka afford na dayon" is not equivalent to "I see no evidence nga fewer people can afford." As I said maam, you need to know what you are talking about before talking. Niclaim man kaha ka (aw si Tommy Osmena diay) nga mas dili maka afford ang mga tao kung mapasa ang bill.. so asa man imong proof? Katong mga calculation 2x nimo? Hahaha...
    oki.. so kung ma himo na ug RA ning bill...naa ta trabaho ... then dili lang gihapon ta maka afford ug house and lot... ngano ato a mani suporta an?

  8. #98
    Quote Originally Posted by masakiton View Post
    wala tingali naka suwat nga cebu city sa ako gi post
    diba ang cebu island kai daghan mga city
    proof.. singapore... ang mga taw sa silingan nga nasud nang larga padung singapore para maka kita ug trabaho
    nya karon ang property market na himo na issue kai cge na ug saka ang prisyo
    Aw pareha ra gihapon. Can you prove that people will flock to the city? Cebu wide man ni, so it will include also areas that are not in cities right?

    Saka ang presyo, wow.. so unsa man imong point maam. Nga naay inflation?

    Is it possible to have economic growth without inflation maam?


    oki.. so kung ma himo na ug RA ning bill...naa ta trabaho ... then dili lang gihapon ta maka afford ug house and lot... ngano ato a mani suporta an?

    Asa man imong proof maam nga dili ta ka afford. Di ba naghulat pa ko sa imong proof? "he who makes the first allegation must prove it first"

  9. #99
    Quote Originally Posted by RMK711 View Post
    Aw pareha ra gihapon. Can you prove that people will flock to the city? Cebu wide man ni, so it will include also areas that are not in cities right?
    Quote Originally Posted by BIGMAN View Post
    Once realized, this would spur economic development not only in Cebu but also our neighboring provinces.
    Quote Originally Posted by BIGMAN View Post
    Normal ni sa economically developed nga lugar. But we can always afford kay job is everywhere. Mosaka na sad ang rate sa sweldo.


    Quote Originally Posted by RMK711 View Post
    Saka ang presyo, wow.. so unsa man imong point maam. Nga naay inflation?
    Quote Originally Posted by BIGMAN View Post
    Do you know the Law of Supply and Demand Sir?
    Quote Originally Posted by RMK711 View Post
    Is it possible to have economic growth without inflation maam?
    wala ko kahibaw


    Asa man imong proof sir nga maka afford. Di ba naghulat pa ko sa imong proof?

  10. #100
    Quote Originally Posted by masakiton View Post
    wala ko kahibaw


    Asa man imong proof sir nga maka afford. Di ba naghulat pa ko sa imong proof?
    Kung si BIGMAN nag hisgot, si BIGMAN ang pamutan-a. Dili ako. Kai dili man ko si bigman.

    "He or she who makes the first allegation, must prove it"

    By the way, I never claimed that everyone will be able to afford right away (as you claimed).. in fact i said almost the opposite, that not everyone can afford but that this is a reality and this bill never claimed to give jobs to everyone anyway right? If you are saying, a bill must be able to get everyone who has a job, regardless of the job, a house in order to be worthwhile as a bill.. then we should not pass any bills at all because no bill anywhere in the world can do that. Even in first world countries, there are people who can't afford their own houses. Does that mean we shouldn't try to become a first world country?

    Kanang mga jobless, o minimum wage earner, can they afford under the present system? But I think the minimum wage earner in Singapore can afford their own HLURB flat, unless you can prove otherwise. Regardless of your claim that the government offers subsidies, that's irrelevant because those subsidies ultimately come from the citizens anyway. Superannuation by the way is known as enforced retirement allocation, it is maybe because you confused it with the useless deductions like SSS/PagIbig here that you mentioned that in a negative light before.

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