MERGED: FEDERAL DEMOCRACY: A solution to the sick country, the Philippines.

[Jaggernought]

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Are we strong enough to shift towards federalism, mayabe aspiration lang kaha ni sa uban who wants total control of a certain region place that he is currently leading.

[BIGMAN]

@Romeojin

You are answered by RMK711, are u still not satisfied?

[BIGMAN]

What's to dig more BIGMAN? If the solution does not solve the problem, then that is not the correct solution. You may dig deeper yourself and be realistic. you're just blinded by your idea and seems you're mind is now closed to it.

Changing people's character? Is that what you call realistic? You can't change people's character in a night. Daghang Pinoy naa sa gawas, they are in millions na. Do you think they suddenly change their character? They didn't. They are forced to abide the laws that govern each country where they are working. Unsaon man nimo pag control ang mga tawo nga dili mo abuso? Balaod mga migo, di ba? So, meaning ilisan ang bulok nga sestema sa gobyerno.

Example: We'll send 100 criminals to Singapore, do you think majority of them still commit crimes, knowing how strict Singapore is about lawless elements. Dili, kay sa Singapore ma buotan ka ug ahat.
Mao ra sad na sa federalism, ma tarong ang mga traditional nga pulitiko.

[RMK711]

Are we strong enough to shift towards federalism, mayabe aspiration lang kaha ni sa uban who wants total control of a certain region place that he is currently leading.

This already happens in the present system. And I don't think federalism will encourage total control since national defense would still be at the federal, not the state level. In all other respects with regards to this, federalism will be no worse than the current system. The police are already under the control of the mayors in the present set-up anyway, so transferring control over to the governor/premier level won't provide more control to local politicians than currently already exists.

[laplink]

nganong nabuhat mani nila ang pagpangurakot? nganong wala may or dugay ang aksyon? Pila naman ka katuig sa kalibutan? Malipayon baka sa atong panggobyerno karon?

[BIGMAN]

@Bigman

you cant just go on to my list and oppose these, you talked as if money grows on tree; buildings, power plants & other infrastructures will just grows out of of the ground; people will not be selfish; that people would just allow to be tax more; corruption can be easily prevented; that people would adjust (be good) with the new system; political dynasty would not be a problem; insurgencies would be solved; and our country would not be divided etc the world aint perfect you know.

We need a good economy or become a First World Country to be able to afford federalism and there is no proof (accdg to a study) that federalism would solve economic problem and poverty cause there is no direct positive relation between decentralization and economic growth.

how can you be sure that a certain branch of government would operate well with limited funds, even our current system had this problem what more if we increase our government officials and staffs who will pay them? federal state will more or less gonna pay the same amount for government services.. and how about those poor region or regions who are predominantly agriculture regions, they cant compete with those highly industrialized and commercialized states.. dont tell me businessmen will just invest on these poor states. had you been in Mindanao.. can you see a lot of chains of McDonalds, KFC, Pizza Hut,etc.. No, cause only few willing to invest on it. If cebu made this so far despite handing the capital a large stake of our tax money, why does the other regions and City make it with our current system?

What? No direct positive relation between decentralization and economic growth? Sure ka, Basa oi, basa! Unsay gusto nimo kausaban o mao lang gihapon? Kung ang income sa Cebu og uban pa naa pa tanan sa probinsya mismo, mas daghan ug mahimo ang kana nga lugar.

Unsaon paglambo sa Mindanao nga 40% ra man sa income ang naa nila. Sige pa jud gubat didto.

[noliverh]

This already happens in the present system. And I don't think federalism will encourage total control since national defense would still be at the federal, not the state level. In all other respects with regards to this, federalism will be no worse than the current system. The police are already under the control of the mayors in the present set-up anyway, so transferring control over to the governor/premier level won't provide more control to local politicians than currently already exists.

+10 ko ani bro... hehehe...

[okah]

@Bigman

you cant just go on to my list and oppose these, you talked as if money grows on tree; buildings, power plants & other infrastructures will just grows out of of the ground; people will not be selfish; that people would just allow to be tax more; corruption can be easily prevented; that people would adjust (be good) with the new system; political dynasty would not be a problem; insurgencies would be solved; and our country would not be divided etc the world aint perfect you know.

We need a good economy or become a First World Country to be able to afford federalism and there is no proof (accdg to a study) that federalism would solve economic problem and poverty cause there is no direct positive relation between decentralization and economic growth.

how can you be sure that a certain branch of government would operate well with limited funds, even our current system had this problem what more if we increase our government officials and staffs who will pay them? federal state will more or less gonna pay the same amount for government services.. and how about those poor region or regions who are predominantly agriculture regions, they cant compete with those highly industrialized and commercialized states.. dont tell me businessmen will just invest on these poor states. had you been in Mindanao.. can you see a lot of chains of McDonalds, KFC, Pizza Hut,etc.. No, cause only few willing to invest on it. If cebu made this so far despite handing the capital a large stake of our tax money, why does the other regions and City make it with our current system?

Mao nay naka pabor sa agriculture regions ang ilahang product. asa man diay ta mangumpra diba sa ilaha, ug usa pasad dili naman siguro kinahanglan nga matukod pang mga building or and fodd chains anang mga lugara kay naanad naman na sila, ug lain sad limited funds, samot na siguro ka limit kung ang income ipadala pa sa national ug ang mabalik samot ka gamay.

[laplink]

Nganong naa pamay walay mga kaon?
Nganong naa pamay way grado?
Nganong kulang man ang atong mga school, reading materials ug uban pa?
Nganong muabot man ug 80 ka estyudante ang kada classroom?
Nganong dili man timbang ang atong hostisya?
Nganong daghan mang crimen ang wala nasulbad?
Nganong kulang man ang seguridad sa katawhan?
Nganong naay may mangurakot?
Nganong nangurakot mana cla?
Nganong nakapangurakot mana cla?

[BIGMAN]

@ Romeojin

Decentralization and Economic Growth

Current situation.
Centralized development. Ang improved kaau nga lugar ang Imperial Manila ug uban pang bahin sa Luzon, 60% of all the money of the Phippines is there. If nakaadto ka, lapad kaau ug mga kalsada didto. Nag sapaw2x ang mga flyover. Ang ubang bahin sa nasud gipasagdan kay maghuwat ra man ug proyekto sa Manila kay sila ang nag control sa budget. Unya, dili ka malain ana nga majority sa income sa imong province, sila ang nagpahimulos. Unsay nahitabo, daghan ang negosyante didto. Ang mga probinsyano moadto ug Manila kay manimpad intawon. So, overpopulated na sila. Problems arises; crimes, squatters ug uban pa. Daghan ang immature electorate because of National TV kay centralize man. Modaug ang dili qualified like Bong, Jinggoy, etc. International community think that Manila is Philippines. Pero dili kay dako ang Pilipinas. Sama sa nahitabo nga hostage crisis, tourism is affected kay para nila Manila ra man ang Pilipinas. Travel advisory dayon, Cebu, Davao and other tourist destination is affected.


Decentralization under Federalism.
80% of the budget stays in each province. So, they have full control of the money. They can implement projects that will improve their places. Infrastructures like roads, power plants, communications and others will attract investors. So, daghan na unya ang mo invest. Daghan nag trabaho, economy will grow constantly. Each state will have their own sikat nga media. Dili na unya mga dagkong network ang mo control sa Philippines like abs-cbn and GMA7. If money is the problem, we can always borrow from World Bank and IMF. As long as sakto nga proyekto ang padulngan. Ang mga probinsyano sa Manila kay mamauli sa tagsa2x nila ka mga lugar. Masulbad ang problema sa Manila. PROMDI concept bah of Lito O. Kadungog na ka anang PROMDI Sir. Poor provinces will have fewer needs than that of the rich. They can always elect the best leader to improve their place.

Nakatuhog ka Romeojin sa akong gipasabot. There is direct positive realtionship between Decentralization and Economic Growth.