MERGED: Metro Cebu Road Development: Flyovers or Road Widening?

[masakiton]

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agree kaayu ko ani. padak-i pa ang bayad for vioalting traffic rules. may it be the driver, pedestrian or the riding public...

fine + drivers education
bitaw.. i triple ang mga penalty aron mag panagana ug violate ang mga taw
OT:
example.. sa singapura ...
illegal parking sa motor kai = 100S$ kada masakpan
average sweldo sa mga singaporean is 1200S$ - 1400S$ per month
almost 10% na sa ila income ma wala :thumbups:

drinking and eating sa MRT ug MRT station = 500S$
ma buotan ka ug ahat

[peewee_toot]

^mao jd. dili mn gd hugot ang pinas mao ng mo abuso ang uban...

[thethird79]

ambot sad kaha ha..kay ang mga driber or pedestrians...
gi mahalan na man sila anang mga fines....

say 1000 vs 3000?
pero mao ra gyapon...bisag gimahalan na sila

i was thinking of the sytem regarding sa dakup2
ang kana bang mga trafic enforcers kay murag ang ila trabaho kay ang PAGPANAKOP ra
and no other
mag hupo2 gai na sila

murag kanang mag sige transact business sa kadalanan
between mga trafic enforcers and the violators
murag nakapasamot sa traffic...ma among pa gyud ang mga pasahero sa kalangay
traffic enforcers man kaha?
dili man kaha collectors? or tig unsa ba nang manakopay nga trabaho


hay kaha maayo kung mag facilitate lang na sila sa flow sa trafic
kaysa sa mag sige hupo hopo..
kung naay mo violate like pataka og urong...
aw sinyasan lang gud to move forward...

[masakiton]

kung mo sunod ta sa taffic rules walai rason nga dakpon
kung mo patuo sa traffic rules = walai dakop = walai kotong cops = less traffic

[thethird79]

This idea came up which died for some reason ... I heard rumblings from Jeepney sector / PUJ sector wc naturally would oppose since this lowers income if say we had trains, subway from say Naga all the way to Danao ... and stops in key areas ...

Now, would u say we were ready for major changes , lessen jeepneys , hence less stoppage in a No stopping area although how do we allocate these drivers to have jobs , I think that is one main problem since our roads aren't getting any bigger , with more cars, PUJ's etc ...

Another interesting conversation I had was the resistance to change, people don't like to change what they are used to

mao diay nang mga route sa mga jeepneys dire cebu city noh, putol2
kon baga...kadaghan ka mosakay og jeep una ka maabot sa imo destination
nga pwerte doula ra man unta kaayo...haha...

[thethird79]

kung mo sunod ta sa taffic rules walai rason nga dakpon
kung mo patuo sa traffic rules = walai dakop = walai kotong cops = less traffic

dali ra man ni siya ma binuang gud
kana bitawng dinakopay pataka og stop kay mahilot ra dayon
ang kanang mga dribers gimahalan gyud na sa fines
pero unsa ila buhaton

tagaan man nila ang mga enforcers <dili sa fines>
w/c is advantageous sa driber, kay makabarato man
ug sa pasengers, kay madali na man

sa enforcers,
ang advantage kay ma ilaha man ang kwarta,
bisan toud dili actual amount
pero at least ma ilaha gyud...
.................

mahug ra gyud ala nay kwenta kung pila ang fines

so that's win-win game between enforcer and dribers/pasengers

lose-lose <or loslos> sa traffic system

[masakiton]

simple ra solution aron dili maka multa ug dili ma kotongan ....
mo sunod sa balaod aron dili dakpon

[thethird79]

simple ra solution aron dili maka multa ug dili ma kotongan ....
mo sunod sa balaod aron dili dakpon

if you ask the enforcers
mas ganhan man sila naay violators
para makakwarta sila

haha

[masakiton]

if you ask the enforcers
mas ganhan man sila naay violators
para makakwarta sila

haha

mao gali.. aron dili sila maka kwarta.. mo sunod ang driver sa balaod

[alt_tab]

the gov't should handle the transportation. if there is only one transport sector, there would be no competition on jeepney or bus drivers. the "boundary" system should not be used when it comes to their salaries. we need also subway trains for faster transport especially in crowded cities. traffic rules should be strictly implemented to both drivers and pedestrians. jeeps should pick-up/drop passengers at designated areas only. same as commuters who should board in those areas. people should be encouraged to walk instead of making the jeeps stop anywhere. wider sidewalks are also needed. public discipline should be encouraged in regards to traffic rules. violators should be caught, both drivers and pedestrians. they should be detained for a seminar on traffic rules. the option to pay the enforcers on site should not be used. it will only invite to extortion and bribery.

mao ni akong opinion ug akong nahunahunaan.