MERGED: FEDERAL DEMOCRACY: A solution to the sick country, the Philippines.

[Romeojin]

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OT: nindot kaayo ni nga discussion. both have good points to stand.

The burden of proof lies at the pro-federalism. at least some people here in this thread are still not sold to the idea. keep-up your marketing skills bro, basin ma convince ni ninyo sila.

@romeojin - keep fighting

i am proud to all of you. at least you are concerned and you want positive change. peace to everyone.

it seems Bigman, laplink and okah are marketing for federalism.

i think im gonna leave them alone. im might cause them their job

[laplink]

it seems Bigman, laplink and okah are marketing for federalism.

i think im gonna leave them alone. im might cause them their job

pagsure dha bro oi, bcn ngani usa kas nangurakot.

[laplink]

Mas maayo ngani ibalik nalang tong KKK kay nagkahi-usa jud ang Filipino ato. or kanahan ta ug kubaton or e-conquer sa lain nga nasud atong nasud para magkahi-usa ta ug balik.

[laplink]

ana mana bro, kung asa ang kwarta tua ang kurap

unya asa mana kwartaha? Naa sa kauluhan... unya?

[BIGMAN]

i already mention a lot of disadvantages you should read back my posts hehe. but since you ask..

i was referring to government duplication for example each state will have its own SC. instead paying for several staff and politicians you pay more with federal government. same goes to every branch of government, military, etc its very expensive. kulang na gani ang budget nato ron, tan-awa ang judiciary nato ron kulang ang budget.

Here are some backgrounds of federalism.

Let us touch a little bit of history here.

Sukad pa sa panahon sa mga Kastila, ila na tang giulipon. Gi patikad ang atong kaugalingong yuta unya ang tanang abot adto nila. Meaning ila tang giulipon. Gikauha nila tanan mga resources sa Pilipinas. Mao na ang colonial mentality nga nasunod sa Pinoy. Dili spread out ang kalamboan.

Hangtod karon mao gihapon na nga sestema. Ang tanang kita sa mga probinsya adto paingon sa Manila. Unya, gamay ra kaau ang mobalik sa probinsya. Unsaon paglambo sa probinsya. Ang tanang proyekto, nagpundok sa Manila, unya sa tibuok PIlipinas ang kwarta nga gigamit. Ang nahitabo kay ang mga probinsyano moadto sa kaulohan kay daghan ang kahigayonan sa trabaho didto. Unsay nahitabo karon, puno na ang Manila, naghuot sila didto. Tanang problema naa didto sa Manila. Ang kalibutan nagtuo nga ang Pilipinas ang Manila ra kay mao man pirmi headline sa World news. So, bati ang atong image sa International, walay ganahan mo invest diri.

Giulipon ta sa atong kapwa Pinoy. Ganahan ka? Tagalog ra gyuy maau. Ang uban nga Pinoy, nagtuo nga tagalog ray Pinoy. Tagalog think others as second class citizen, ganahan ka. Centralize tanan: news, movies. etc. Walang ganyan sa US. Ang resulta, we are producing an immature electorate. Look at our senators, do you think they are worthy to be called as such. Maybe some. Mo botar ta ug mga artista bisan walay alamag sa balaod. Ganahan ka? Kung ni run pa si Willie, siguro daug to. Ganahan ka? We are losing our bright boys outside the country because they have better opportunity there.

Do not worry about money, under the federal. It will come in Billions, even i Trillions pwede.

We need to change the system. Change the people's character? Tell it to yourself.

[BIGMAN]

OT: nindot kaayo ni nga discussion. both have good points to stand.

The burden of proof lies at the pro-federalism. at least some people here in this thread are still not sold to the idea. keep-up your marketing skills bro, basin ma convince ni ninyo sila.

@romeojin - keep fighting

i am proud to all of you. at least you are concerned and you want positive change. peace to everyone.

Mao na problema sa Pinoy Bearish, walay pakialam. Happy go lucky. Unsay resulta? We are producing immature people here in the country. Our bright boys are gone abroad.

[wikki]

@BIGMAN - thats the point of what i posted btw. dli gyud ma usab ang batasan sa pinoy, hopeless na gyud nig future ang php, murag anang war torn african country nga walay pulos.

same people different leaders or government system = same god damn results. no point.

@laplink - wala na gyud btw. frankly sa tanaw nimo ma usab pa gyud ang taw diri? kay frankly sa tanaw nako dli na gyud. labi na karon nga going down kaayo ang economy, mu samot ra gyud pagka walay ayu ang situation diri.

[BIGMAN]

The Advantages of Federalism.

The proposed Federal Republic or Federal System is
based on the so-called principle of .dual sovereignty.. According to this the CMFP
Draft Constitution provides that governmental powers shall be distributed and shared
between the Federal Government (National Government) and the States (Regional
Governments) and their local governments.
Federalism is related to the principle of .popular sovereignty. which states:
.Sovereignty resides in the people and all government authority emanates from them.
(Article II. Section 1). There is a constitutional partnership in democratic governance in
which the States exercise substantial powers and functions with the needed resources or
funding.

In brief, these are some of the specific and concrete advantages of Federalism.

First, a Federal Republic will build a just and enduring framework for peace
through unity in our ethnic, religious, and cultural diversity, especially in relation to
Bangsa Moro or Muslim Filipinos. Responsive Federalism will accommodate their
legitimate interests, end the war in Mindanao, and discourage secessionism.

Second, Federalism will empower our citizens by enabling them to raise their
standard of living and enhance their political awareness, participation and efficacy in
elections and the making of important government decisions. Governance will be
improved and corruption will be reduced by the new division of powers and functions
between the Federal Government and the States, and by the transparency of governance
and its accessibility to the people in the regions, cities, provinces, and municipalities.
CMFP Draft Constitution 5

Third, Federalism will improve governance by empowering and challenging
State and local leaders and entrepreneurs around the country. It will release them from
the present stifling central government control and regulation. It will compel them to
assume greater responsibility for leadership and delivery of services and business, and
reduce their dependence on the national government. As the people will be more
involved in government decisions, they will demand superior performance and public
accountability of their political leaders and officials. At the same time, the people will
be more willing to pay taxes that will finance government programs and services for
their direct benefit.

Fourth, Federalism will hasten the country.s development. Improved
governance at the national level and in the States and localities will stimulate
economic, social, cultural, and political development. There will be inter-State and
regional competition in attracting domestic and foreign investments and industries,
professionals and skilled workers, good teachers and scholars, artists, and tourists. A
renaissance of regional languages and cultures will enrich the national language and
culture. The Federal Government will help support the less endowed and developed
regions, and the poor and the needy across the land, thus promoting a more equitable
development.

Fifth, Federalism, together with PRESIDENTIAL government, will improve
governance by promoting the development of program-oriented political parties that are
responsible and accountable to the people for their conduct and performance in and out
of power.

Sixth, Federalism will broaden and deepen democracy and make its institutions
deliver on the constitutional promise of human rights, a better life for all, a just and
humane society, and responsible and accountable political leadership and governance.

[BIGMAN]

@BIGMAN - thats the point of what i posted btw. dli gyud ma usab ang batasan sa pinoy, hopeless na gyud nig future ang php, murag anang war torn african country nga walay pulos.

same people different leaders or government system = same god damn results. no point.

@laplink - wala na gyud btw. frankly sa tanaw nimo ma usab pa gyud ang taw diri? kay frankly sa tanaw nako dli na gyud. labi na karon nga going down kaayo ang economy, mu samot ra gyud pagka walay ayu ang situation diri.

Then, what are we going to do Wikki? You suggest, who knows we'll like it.

[lazaro4ever]

I've worked with several campaigns with the Black and White Movement and NGOs for a couple of years.. I was able to talk to some high profile politicians about the situation of changing the government..

This is what they explained:

The Central Government (Manila) does not want to let go of Mindanao and other cities because Luzon lacks a lot of resources to stand on its own... Based on the national budget, more than 50% is allotted to Luzon based projects while Visayas and Mindanao share the rest of the 50%.

If federalism is approved, a state's budget is its own. The state will only remit a portion the revenue coming from taxes and this will cripple the central government. It is going to be like committing suicide for them to let go.

So, how can we change our government?

There are only two ways possible...
1.) Officials will start think of other people rather than their own pockets (this is impossible)
2.) Civil War (messy, but effective)