Trading the Philippine Stock Market

[innosoftcebu]

PSE remains to be bullish since early 2009. If you are fully invested it is expected that you will get more than 20% of your principal. Swing trades, if properly done, can get more. But then again, I don't trade in the Philippines, I invest, just like you. Bro ep, can you match his returns? Furthermore, can you provide us your fundamental indicators, e.g., ratios, dividends, etc. And how do wieght them in terms of percentage. Because if you follow the analysis of your broker, you might as well put your money in a full equity mutual fund.

Guys, based on my experience since I've starting swing trading side by side with my value investing just to test it, I'm becoming convinced that trying to time the market leads to only modest gains at best. It's better to stay invested in the market. The last two investing books I've read recently both point to studies that show interesting facts that are repeated in this article I'm sharing. Historically, huge chunks of a market's gain in any given year happen in only a few random days during the year. So if you are out of the market (or out of a particular stock) in the 5 or 10 best days of the year, you've missed out on much of the ride up.

Check out this article, coz this pretty much summarizes what I'm becoming convinced of based on tough experience. You can loose 1/2 of your Investment Returns by Missing the 10 Best Days? - Manage Your Life on Shine

How are you swing traders here doing guys? Do you guys monitor your portfolio values at the start and end of every month? If so, how are your numbers?

Let me just share my portfolio's total gains over the last 6 months using value investing approach. Please note guys that these numbers are based on my overall portfolio's net capital gains plus dividends on a per month basis:

March (+) 7.81%
April (+) 10.19%
May (+) 1.7%
June (+) 6.25%
July (+) 4.37%
August (+) 3.65%

On my swing trade side, I've made 10 swing trades, 6 are closed and 4 are still open. Net gain for all swing trades as of today is only P6,124 for investments totaling P242,061 (total ni siya from overlapping trades). This computes to only 2.53% gain for roughly 2 months work.

Clearly, staying invested instead of trying to time the market didn't work in my experience. Am sharing this so I can get some benchmark numbers from you guys whether swing trader mo or value investor.

I like technical analysis guys. Don't get me wrong. That was my main approach early in my trading career but I've racked up unimpressive numbers on the months that I traded using technicals. I'd like to believe I'm above average at reading charts but my experience and close monitoring of my portfolio's progress every month seems to tell me my worst months were when I traded in and out. My best months came when I chose only value stocks and held on to them until predetermined target prices were reached.

How do your numbers compare with mine guys and what is your trading strategy. Thanks.

Good luck to us all. By the way, first trading day of September and I already gained 1.64% overall on my portfolio, and I didn't make active trades at all!

[techguys]

nice input, depende ra gyud diay no kung asa ka comfortable. thanks

Guys, based on my experience since I've starting swing trading side by side with my value investing just to test it, I'm becoming convinced that trying to time the market leads to only modest gains at best. It's better to stay invested in the market. The last two investing books I've read recently both point to studies that show interesting facts that are repeated in this article I'm sharing. Historically, huge chunks of a market's gain in any given year happen in only a few random days during the year. So if you are out of the market (or out of a particular stock) in the 5 or 10 best days of the year, you've missed out on much of the ride up.

Check out this article, coz this pretty much summarizes what I'm becoming convinced of based on tough experience. You can loose 1/2 of your Investment Returns by Missing the 10 Best Days? - Manage Your Life on Shine

How are you swing traders here doing guys? Do you guys monitor your portfolio values at the start and end of every month? If so, how are your numbers?

Let me just share my portfolio's total gains over the last 6 months using value investing approach. Please note guys that these numbers are based on my overall portfolio's net capital gains plus dividends on a per month basis:

March (+) 7.81%
April (+) 10.19%
May (+) 1.7%
June (+) 6.25%
July (+) 4.37%
August (+) 3.65%

On my swing trade side, I've made 10 swing trades, 6 are closed and 4 are still open. Net gain for all swing trades as of today is only P6,124 for investments totaling P242,061 (total ni siya from overlapping trades). This computes to only 2.53% gain for roughly 2 months work.

Clearly, staying invested instead of trying to time the market didn't work in my experience. Am sharing this so I can get some benchmark numbers from you guys whether swing trader mo or value investor.

I like technical analysis guys. Don't get me wrong. That was my main approach early in my trading career but I've racked up unimpressive numbers on the months that I traded using technicals. I'd like to believe I'm above average at reading charts but my experience and close monitoring of my portfolio's progress every month seems to tell me my worst months were when I traded in and out. My best months came when I chose only value stocks and held on to them until predetermined target prices were reached.

How do your numbers compare with mine guys and what is your trading strategy. Thanks.

Good luck to us all. By the way, first trading day of September and I already gained 1.64% overall on my portfolio, and I didn't make active trades at all!

[MoD]

dakoa na sa inyong investment bro vondave.. may unta muhatag akong parents capital ani next year... bsan 200k lng.. hehe.. if naa ta capital 1 million.. nindot jud unta.. hehe

waiting for sir ep to share his total gains per month..

[redhorse1L]

nice one vondave!

Murag pang warren buffet jud na imong path da. hehhehe..
Bitaw, ok man jud ang long term investment, kay dili labad sa ulo.

Oh well, I think it's better mix nalang..
Invest in blues, then swing trade on the rest.

[epgarias]

Ep, dli ba d i pwede ka short ug stock dha?

Dili pa man supported sa current system ang shorting of stocks diri.. Hopefully once ma fully implemented na ang NTS kay mapareho2x nami ug system sa US Market..

[epgarias]

unsaon pagconvert into COL2x? thanks

Fill up ra ka sa kato form para sa COL2x Margin Account nila..
https://www.citiseconline.com/Final2...HOME_forms.asp

Minimum investment needed kay atleast 200K para sa COL2x.

[entrepreneur101]

oh may kalamay 3 digits green DOW mayta ma sustain =)

[innosoftcebu]

Yes I am waiting for this. Hopefully they will also include options. In that way we can trade up market as well as down market. This type of trading can hedge my long position in the local market. Any dates on this bro ep.

Dili pa man supported sa current system ang shorting of stocks diri.. Hopefully once ma fully implemented na ang NTS kay mapareho2x nami ug system sa US Market..

[techguys]

thanks brod EP.

Fill up ra ka sa kato form para sa COL2x Margin Account nila..
https://www.citiseconline.com/Final2...HOME_forms.asp

Minimum investment needed kay atleast 200K para sa COL2x.

[techguys]

kanang account nga EIP sa COL. naa na additional nga bayad? diba kana nga account mao mana ang makaaccess ka sa ilang recommendations in tabular format?