Kinsa jud imo gituohan kung diin jud tah gikan, ang Bible or Science?

[Sand Man]

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I'm not gonna go back and read all the 30-page discussion, but if my comments have been brought up already from earlier posts then I apologize.

Anyways, someone in here asked if the stories in the book of Genesis were to be taken literally. It should not be, although the "Biblical milestones" -- essentially, the big events that is described in the book of Genesis -- should. For example, when it says that God created all of this in 6 "days", it doesn't necessarily follow that the "day" referred here is 24 hours. Biblical scholars have determined this, and if we want a healthy discussion we should also take the time to learn the actual "day" being referred to here.

There is a huge effort within the scientific community to reconcile the Big Bang theory and Creation. Now having said that, I suggest we all read up on topics like Higgs Boson, CERN, Large Hadron Colliders (LHC), and about "God Particles".

Here's a very good article to start with: What Is The "GOD" Particle All About?

Cheers.

[schmuck]

I'm not gonna go back and read all the 30-page discussion, but if my comments have been brought up already from earlier posts then I apologize.

Anyways, someone in here asked if the stories in the book of Genesis were to be taken literally. It should not be, although the "Biblical milestones" -- essentially, the big events that is described in the book of Genesis -- should. For example, when it says that God created all of this in 6 "days", it doesn't necessarily follow that the "day" referred here is 24 hours. Biblical scholars have determined this, and if we want a healthy discussion we should also take the time to learn the actual "day" being referred to here.

There is a huge effort within the scientific community to reconcile the Big Bang theory and Creation. Now having said that, I suggest we all read up on topics like Higgs Boson, CERN, Large Hadron Colliders (LHC), and about "God Particles".

Here's a very good article to start with: What Is The "GOD" Particle All About?

Cheers.

I don't think there is such a thing going on. These assertions are mostly made by Christian apologetics struggling to maintain significance as science marches on, ever decreasing the gaps where the god of the gaps resides.

For your info, the term "God particle" was coined by the media. Scientists don't actually like the term. sources sources sources

[Peenut]

I prefer science than bible.
Bible was only written by men.
Science has a long process.

(Backreading)

[AMD_fan]

i believe there is a "Creator". kung di mu mu tuo bible or islam or buddhist or unsa man nga religion.. bsag unsaon pana. di jd ko convince nga miraculously naa na dayon tah poof! like kalit lang bigbang poof! nya naa dayon universe poof! nya naa dayon earth poof! nya flora and fauna poof! nya oxygen poof! etc etc..
we are not accidents.. we are made by a certain creator.

mura rana mu ask ka.. nganu naay buildings? nganu naay cities? nganu naay cellphone.. nganu naay computer? nganu naay car.. nganu naay books.. etc etc.. dont tell me after millions and billions of years mu evolve mga things to these.. no no no.. humans made these things.. we humans are the creator.

nya unsa pa kaha kung kita, we are more complex than material things.. we are more special than the world's best super computer.. we are a "miracle". nya all these without a Creator? no no. Sorry but im really not convince there is no Creator.. don't get me wrong, i love science.. but there is really a God.

bro, dli abi kay tungod sa atong pagka complex, mo largo lng ta ug sulti na naa gyud tay creator..
In fact, ang atong lawas, dli jud perfect, like sa mata nga naa ghapon blind spot, layo ra kaayo sa ubang species..

Kung mo ingon mn gani kang tungod sa complexity mao nka sulti ka ngano naay Creator,
pangutan-a imo kaugalingon na kung tinuod naay creator, therefore, mas complex pa siya nato kay kahibaw gud siya mag magic2x..Unya kahibaw pa gyud siya mo himo ug tao ug kalibutan... ang pangutana karon, kinsa man diay gahimo sa God nga grabe mn siya ka complex?
Kung grabe mn jud gali ka complex ang God, mas sobra pa ka complex ang naghimo sa God, kinsa mn ang gahimo sa God? Kinsa pud ang naghimo sa naghimo sa naghimo sa God? hehehe...

Kung basehan nimo ang science, nag sugod sa pinaka simple nga organism ug ni evolve through time... Kung basehan pud nimo ang God2x, nag sugod jud sa complexity... Think about it...

Science has more logical outcome...

we are more special than the world's best super computer because we evolved MILLIONS OF YEARS and computers just started about 1970s...

[AMD_fan]

dili tanan d ma explain sama sa bible or bisan science d tinoud, suma maka explain pa diay mo tnan sa inyong emtions esp. kng ma in love mo? kana lng daan, importante nga kahibaw gyud ta sa atong limitations kay tanan butang sorrounding us have law and limitations...
so we better know the creator of us all.. we can see His qualities thru creations...

Emotions are the way of survival to almost all animals and the key to civilization that evolved MILLIONS OF YEARS...

[AMD_fan]

I'm not gonna go back and read all the 30-page discussion, but if my comments have been brought up already from earlier posts then I apologize.

Anyways, someone in here asked if the stories in the book of Genesis were to be taken literally. It should not be, although the "Biblical milestones" -- essentially, the big events that is described in the book of Genesis -- should. For example, when it says that God created all of this in 6 "days", it doesn't necessarily follow that the "day" referred here is 24 hours. Biblical scholars have determined this, and if we want a healthy discussion we should also take the time to learn the actual "day" being referred to here.

There is a huge effort within the scientific community to reconcile the Big Bang theory and Creation. Now having said that, I suggest we all read up on topics like Higgs Boson, CERN, Large Hadron Colliders (LHC), and about "God Particles".

Here's a very good article to start with: What Is The "GOD" Particle All About?

Cheers.

Here goes the God Particle again... Please read other resources about your god particle... it is only being used by the media and some hardcore christians...

[SPRINGFIELD_XD_40]

Science has more logical outcome...

we are more special than the world's best super computer because we evolved MILLIONS OF YEARS and computers just started about 1970s...

True , SCIENCE has a more logical outcome pero an outcome which is not a conclusion yet because something comes up evry now and then . Now if SCIENCE is really all that , it should be able to determine and explain that there is NO GOD otherwise it is NOT LOGICAL at all .

Also when we say EVOLVED MILLIONS of YEARS ... did we stopped evolving or we are constantly evolving ?

Why dont we use SCIENCE once and for all to answer our questions ?

[AMD_fan]

True , SCIENCE has a more logical outcome pero an outcome which is not a conclusion yet because something comes up evry now and then . Now if SCIENCE is really all that , it should be able to determine and explain that there is NO GOD otherwise it is NOT LOGICAL at all .

God's existence can't be determine and explain by science because it's simply not science... BUT, Science combined with a simple logic did determine and explain that there is no way the BIBLE is true...

Also when we say EVOLVED MILLIONS of YEARS ... did we stopped evolving or we are constantly evolving ?

Of course we are continually evolving...

Why dont we use SCIENCE once and for all to answer our questions ?

If you would, it will...

[SPRINGFIELD_XD_40]

God's existence can't be determine and explain by science because it's simply not science... BUT, Science combined with a simple logic did determine and explain that there is no way the BIBLE is true...

Sure ka na from THEORY , kani imohang statement CONCLUDED na ?

Of course we are continually evolving...

If the evolution was still continually evolving based on your logic , I can understand that out of cells ( spermatozoa and egg ) started what we call life and human beings and that happened inside the body of a human being also right ?

SO if atong subayon jud .... lupad ug layo back to the future ta .... time machine swoosh !! .... considering ma trace nimo ang first human beings , they start as a CELl or HUMAN BEING na ang porma nila ? CHICKEN and EGG debate na sad sa ?

If you would, it will...

But its your SCIENCE .

[AMD_fan]

Sure ka na from THEORY , kani imohang statement CONCLUDED na ?

For me, YES...

If the evolution was still continually evolving based on your logic , I can understand that out of cells ( spermatozoa and egg ) started what we call life and human beings and that happened inside the body of a human being also right ?

SO if atong subayon jud .... lupad ug layo back to the future ta .... time machine swoosh !! .... considering ma trace nimo ang first human beings , they start as a CELl or HUMAN BEING na ang porma nila ? CHICKEN and EGG debate na sad sa ?

Every living things started with simple organisms... Humans started as apes and NOT cells or human beings... You have to understand evolution, it won't just pop out as humans coming out of a cell.. TIME plays a role as per the term EVOLVED...