The Universe - is it Created? or by Chance?

[Tirong-say]

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If supposedly the big bang theory is possible, then where did the primordial atom came from?...it is also created by chance out of nothing....and how?

[orcgod]

Set aside biblical passages and let's talk about Science and Logic.
Then let's see who is more logical: Theist or Atheist.

Let me start with this First Argument:

1. Whatever begins to exist has a cause.
2. The universe began to exist.
3. Therefore, the universe has a cause.

Universe is always there, nobody created it, no spirit created it. it is just there.

the first thing youll ask...

can an EMPTY BLACK INFINITE SPACE be created by something or somebody? yes or no?

if yes....another question arises

if something, or somebody created the EMPTY BLACK INFINITE SPACE, then the EMPTY BLACK INFINITE SPACE must have a beginning and an end from its infiniteness? right?

another argument arises...

if it has a beginning and an end so its not an EMPTY BLACK INFINITE SPACE anymore, so where does EMPTY BLACK INFINITE SPACE comes from, if its created?

[Hotmomma]

@bungot25: wow... multiverse... first time i've heard of this was on Jet Li's movie The One...

@redhorse: good to know naa nay katapat si hitch22... go go go mga pro-creationists!!! i once dared arguing with him and the others sa pikas thread... i ended up losing all my blood... you know... sa nosebleed...

support lng me ug basa ha... basta di lng mi ma-apil sa crossfire...

para lang jud sa akoa... if we are to depend lng gyud sa atoang kaugalingong logic... ug dili lng usa ta maminaw sa mga bantugang tawo ug mga siyentipiko kuno... youll be convinced jud... nga ang tanan adunay juy sinugdanan... ug imposible nga mukalit lng ug bang! universe na... para sa ako ra na ha... para safe...

but im a big fan of Bill Maher though... he's intelligently funny...

naa raba HUNGIHONG diri nga si Bill Maher ang mo puli ni Larry King!!! weee that would be fun!!! nanaad na raba ko nga matulog na ko ug alas 9 ug mo retire na si King. But if Maher will replace him, bilar na sad ko ani!!!

[bungot25]

If supposedly the big bang theory is possible, then where did the primordial atom came from?...it is also created by chance out of nothing....and how?

libat libat na ang mata sa scientist ana bro. lols

[bungot25]

Universe is always there, nobody created it, no spirit created it. it is just there.

the first thing youll ask...

can an EMPTY BLACK INFINITE SPACE be created by something or somebody? yes or no?

if yes....another question arises

if something, or somebody created the EMPTY BLACK INFINITE SPACE, then the EMPTY BLACK INFINITE SPACE must have a beginning and an end from its infiniteness? right?

another argument arises...

if it has a beginning and an end so its not an EMPTY BLACK INFINITE SPACE anymore, so where does EMPTY BLACK INFINITE SPACE comes from, if its created?

BRo, ka alegre sad nimo ug pangagpas uy...wala nay duol duol pa ana! LOLS

[robert_papalid_ece]

naa raba HUNGIHONG diri nga si Bill Maher ang mo puli ni Larry King!!! weee that would be fun!!! nanaad na raba ko nga matulog na ko ug alas 9 ug mo retire na si King. But if Maher will replace him, bilar na sad ko ani!!!

yep... hungihong ra nuon mam... bill maher would be a good replacement...
i think he is an atheist and... and by far my favorite atheist... i don't know why... it's just that everytime he makes fun of religion/God's existence... it doesn't hurt my feelings... ug makatawa na lang jud ko... whenever he get involved in some arguements on religious matters... he would simply make an unsarcastic smile... and then makes his point afterwards... without insisting on it... im gay for this guy... joke! but russell peters and jim carrey are still my favorite comedians...

[Hotmomma]

yep... hungihong ra nuon mam... bill maher would be a good replacement...
i think he is an atheist and... and by far my favorite atheist... i don't know why... it's just that everytime he makes fun of religion/God's existence... it doesn't hurt my feelings... ug makatawa na lang jud ko... whenever he get involved in some arguements on religious matters... he would simply make an unsarcastic smile... and then makes his point afterwards... without insisting on it... im gay for this guy... joke! but russell peters and jim carrey are still my favorite comedians...

yes he is an Atheist and very respected. As Larry has said the other day, "Bill talks by heart. He is always true to what he is saying."

I like him a lot but sad that Russel and Jim cant make me laugh. lahi lahi jud tag templa sa comedy.

[orcgod]

BRo, ka alegre sad nimo ug pangagpas uy...wala nay duol duol pa ana! LOLS

ah, mao ni imo answer sako pangutana?

[redhorse1L]

Universe is always there, nobody created it, no spirit created it. it is just there.

the first thing youll ask...

can an EMPTY BLACK INFINITE SPACE be created by something or somebody? yes or no?

if yes....another question arises

if something, or somebody created the EMPTY BLACK INFINITE SPACE, then the EMPTY BLACK INFINITE SPACE must have a beginning and an end from its infiniteness? right?

another argument arises...

if it has a beginning and an end so its not an EMPTY BLACK INFINITE SPACE anymore, so where does EMPTY BLACK INFINITE SPACE comes from, if its created?

Universe is always there, nobody created it, no spirit created it. it is just there.
Please prove you're claim.

Stephen Hawking, George Ellis, and Roger Penrose extended the equations for general relativity to include space and time. Not only space, but also time has a beginning - at the Big Bang.
The Beginning of Time

Even NASA has acknowledged, that our Universe is about 14 Billion years old. That means to say, the universe, had a beginning.
WMAP- Age of the Universe


can an EMPTY BLACK INFINITE SPACE be created by something or somebody? yes or no?
Please analyze your question for a moment.
How will "EMPTY" or "NOTHING" be created?
Unsa pa man imong buhaton nga wala man?
Pwede diay na? nga magbuhat ka ug wala?

Before the Universe is Nothing.
That EMPTY BLACK INFINITE SPACE your referring is not a larger container of a Universe.
It's just simply NOTHING.

It's like when you're inside a pitch dark room, you don't say "I see a black color", instead, you will say: "I see NOTHING"

[necrotic freak]

^^hehe.. murag trademark najud na niya sir ang logic nga lagpas.



bukal ni ron.