Why did you convert to whatever your religion now?

[JENY198]

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Wow! pede ko ma killer-rapist nya malangit gihapon as long as I become born again in spirit and accept Jesus as my lord and savior!

Where do I sign??


/s <- para sa dili abtik.

If you become born again in Spirit, then dili na ka mag killer-rapist ana, kay lahi naman imong espiritu ana. Kung moingon ka nga gi accept nimo si Jesus as lord and saviour nya pabilin pa gihapon ka himo ug dautan, then dili diay tinuod nga na born again in Spirit ka.

[schmuck]

If you become born again in Spirit, then dili na ka mag killer-rapist ana, kay lahi naman imong espiritu ana. Kung moingon ka nga gi accept nimo si Jesus as lord and saviour nya pabilin pa gihapon ka himo ug dautan, then dili diay tinuod nga na born again in Spirit ka.

So meaning, walai sense ang pagsulti og "Saved by grace(being born again in spirit), not by works".
Since as you explained, required man diay nga mag-binuotan para ma "true" ang pgka-born again.
So what if killer-rapist ko for the majority of my past. Then today, nagpaborn-again in spirit ko. Kanang true as in true jd. Is that fair to the people who lead good and honest lives? Is that fair to you nga malangit ko?

[yesh1314]

still catholic...

[JENY198]

So meaning, walai sense ang pagsulti og "Saved by grace(being born again in spirit), not by works".
Since as you explained, required man diay nga mag-binuotan para ma "true" ang pgka-born again.
So what if killer-rapist ko for the majority of my past. Then today, nagpaborn-again in spirit ko. Kanang true as in true jd. Is that fair to the people who lead good and honest lives? Is that fair to you nga malangit ko?

As to your question kung fair ba nga malangit ka or dili kumpara sa uban nga nagtinarong jud, it is not for me to answer that kay dili man ako ang moluwas nimo. Pangutan a si Kristo kung fair ba nga luwason ka. Remember, Christ is a perfect judge. Kung luwason niya ang taw regardless kung dugay na ba or bag o pa siya nahimong Kristiyano, im sure nga perfect jud always iyang desisyon.

It is not required nga magbinuotan ka if you are saved by grace. It just comes naturally kay as I have said lahi naman ang imong Spirit ana. Ganahan pa diay ka mag killer-rapist kung ni desisyon na ka nga mahimong magtutuo ni Kristo? Also, as a testimony to others who have not come to faith in Christ, kinahanglan you will live a life sad nga pleasing sa Ginoo. Unsaon man pagtuo sa imong mga silingan nga Kristohanon diay ka kung killer-rapist gihapon ka. Unsaon man pag convince nimo sa mga walay Diyos nga tuohan nila ang imong Diyos nga si Kristo kung killer-rapist gihapon ka?

[schmuck]

As to your question kung fair ba nga malangit ka or dili kumpara sa uban nga nagtinarong jud, it is not for me to answer that kay dili man ako ang moluwas nimo. Pangutan a si Kristo kung fair ba nga luwason ka. Remember, Christ is a perfect judge. Kung luwason niya ang taw regardless kung dugay na ba or bag o pa siya nahimong Kristiyano, im sure nga perfect jud always iyang desisyon.

It is not required nga magbinuotan ka if you are saved by grace. It just comes naturally kay as I have said lahi naman ang imong Spirit ana. Ganahan pa diay ka mag killer-rapist kung ni desisyon na ka nga mahimong magtutuo ni Kristo? Also, as a testimony to others who have not come to faith in Christ, kinahanglan you will live a life sad nga pleasing sa Ginoo. Unsaon man pagtuo sa imong mga silingan nga Kristohanon diay ka kung killer-rapist gihapon ka. Unsaon man pag convince nimo sa mga walay Diyos nga tuohan nila ang imong Diyos nga si Kristo kung killer-rapist gihapon ka?

I'm not asking you to judge me, I'm asking you how you will feel kung malangit ko given my past. I took the shortcut, you didn't. Nabinuotan ka all your life, mintras ako wala. Don't cop out and say nga dili ikaw ang moluwas nako.

And you missed the part nga given true sa tanang true akong pgkaborn-again.

[JENY198]

How would I feel if malangit ka given your past? I would be happy for you brother. I preach man gani nato dapat sa uban ang gospel aron daghan makadungog ug malangit.

I dont think na miss na nako nga part. I'll give you an example: ang thief didto sa Krus? wala man to siya maayong buhat pero he put his faith didto ni Christ mao naluwas to siya.

I am not gonna debate you anymore, imo sad na nga pagtuo nga pwede na ka magkiller-rapist once gi accept nimo si Jesus as Lord and Savior, wa koy mahimo ana.

[schmuck]

Last, how about my good non-Born Again Christian friends. I can vouch for them that they are very good people. How do you handle the fact nga dili sila malangit kai dili sila saved by grace. Is that fair to you? It's sure as hell not fair to me.
Give a direct answer and stop equivocating.

[JENY198]

There is only one way to heaven and it is through Christ. Our own righteousness will not saved us. Saved by Grace means you have put your faith in Christ and you believe that through that faith Christ will saved you.

By the way how do you know nga dili malangit imong friends?

You seem like an angry person, like your avatar . I hope I am wrong.

[schmuck]

There is only one way to heaven and it is through Christ. Our own righteousness will not saved us. Saved by Grace means you have put your faith in Christ and you believe that through that faith Christ will saved you.

By the way how do you know nga dili malangit imong friends?

You seem like an angry person, like your avatar . I hope I am wrong.

Nganung kibaw ko dili sila malangit? Ka simple, they are not Christians. From your own post
There is only one way to heaven and it is through Christ.
kaklaro ana.

No, I'm not angry. I just like to discuss with people. (ad hominem attempt?)
And wala ka nianswer sa akong pangutana. Why are you dodging it?

[JENY198]

Nganung kibaw ko dili sila malangit? Ka simple, they are not Christians. From your own post
There is only one way to heaven and it is through Christ.
kaklaro ana.

No, I'm not angry. I just like to discuss with people. (ad hominem attempt?)

Then why not share to them Christ? the gospel? para mahimo silang Christian? have you done that?