Working for Network Companies with Expensive Cars?

[tolstoi]

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^^amen to that maam

[tearsforfears]

Proven system?

I guess the only thing it proves is that it is good while there are people who continue to hope that it is a savior. It proves that the faster the network grow, the less life the network will have.

The network marketer has a lot to answer for. He has a lot to answer to his downlines whom he sweet-talked and failed in the business.

He succeeds out of the failure of others. They pay a recruitment fee, all those fees go to the upline. And when the downline can't find another recruit, he fails. Simple as that. And talk of product is just a ploy to hide the real motive of networking. Recruitment fees and hardselling unsellable products that are overly, grossly, super, overpriced.

Even the concept of a binary system with perfect pairing will saturate the entire earth in 60 days. If you saturate the earth, then who becomes your market

Illegal pyramiding? Maybe it's a legal pyramid. But ethical and moral? The people who will shiver at the sound of your voice will decide that for you.

[Jpacs29]

kanang naa sa traditional business daghan kaayo ilad oi, kana diay declare nila sa ilang income na dili mao para gamay lang bayranan sa tax.... basta business gani di gyud na malikayan way ilad..

[tearsforfears]

Lookout na na sa gobyerno kung kinsa tong nanikas sa ilang taxes. Ang uban dagkong kumpanya, dili intawon na tax evasion ilaha, kon dili, tax avoidance. Mangita ka gyud ug paagi kung unsaon pag minimize ang tax kung gusto ka mo-survive ang business.

Pero sa MLM, direktahang ilad sa imong isig katawo!!! Gilaliman kag pawagtang sa bugas ug buti-buti sa nawong nga tag-P 4000, ug sapatos nga tag P 4,000 sad, unya inig tan-aw sa Ayala, ang sapatos nga parehas ug porma ug material, except sa brand, tag P2,000 ra diay?

Mga existing nga Pinoy made MLM, manggamit dayon ug pangalan sa pulitiko, parehas aning D-Load nga sigeg dala-dala sa pangalan ni Lucio Tan para lang mobilib ang tawo. Unya harap-harapan nga magpalabaw sa ilang networking kay blah blah blah... binary mi blah blah... Unya inig pangutana unsay breakdown sa Initial Capital nga P 850.00, P 150.00 ra gyud tawon ang load!!!! Bantog ra daghan ug bonuses gipanghatag kay tag P 700.00 diay kada tawo ang recruitment fee, unya samot inig apil sa mga downlines!!!

Kung gahuna-huna nga basta business, di malikayan ang ilad, tinuod mas maayo adto na lang sa MLM kay mas dagko ug sigurado ang ilad.

[naomi6000]

heheh sakto gyud ka tearsforfears..save ur skin man gud na ilang theme..ang pangilad importnte ky para makaka-on ko ug katolo sa usa ka adlaw..if dli sila maka ilad..wel surely walay kwarta..bahala na unayon ang amigo ug pamilya basta ma una ilang kaogalingon ug palit mahalon na auto ug celphone..Marikina shoes or carcar shoes na prsyohan ug 4000? sos sa lnea Umo nlng ko claro pang magdugay then italian or imported material pang claro ug maau pagka himo..

Ang MLM concept murag chain letter..sa mo to o lng or sa ma ilad lang..

[kolz]

hay naku....di nyo na matatarog ang network marketing...that is already a proven system...but not a sure fire deal nga one will prosper.

PROSPERITY COMES FROM THE LORD.Â* Jer 29:11 says that the Lord wants to prosper us not to harm us.Â* But then...one also has to do his/her part.Â* WORK HARD....whether job or biz...GIVE back to the Lord what is His. (the tithe)

Thats true ... You'll prosper, only if you work hard, no question there. Amen ta ana ... bisan manarbaho ka ug mag negosyo, apply ni nga rule.

MLM is also a proven system ... tinu-od pud ni. Although dili kaayo daghan ang nakakwarta ani ... pero mas daghan pa gyud ang gi-buang ug na-alkanse ani.

The question here is ethics ... kinsa bay ganahan mga mopalit ug produkto nga pweting ka over priced? mamalit ug food supplement nga pwerting mahala? Sus unya diay - sagbot ra diay to, na unsa naman ni oi!. Kana pang ubang gipangbaligya aning MLM, special kuno nga produkto pero unsa may kalinan ani sa uban? Nganong mahal man ni kaayo? Kung imong huna2x-on ang cost breakdown aning produkto gamay ra kaayo ni ... unsa may nakapamahal ani? Kinsa may gi tonto ani? Kining MLM parehas lang nis pangilad - nganong ilad Â*ni? Â*... its because you're not getting what you paid for! Para sa ako-a whether traditional business or MLM, if you're not getting what you paid for, pangilad na!

Unya sakto kaha ni?

[tearsforfears]

Naomi,

If u've ever wondered why new MLMs continue to sprout in the country, especially locally designed and remodelled from old and dead MLMs (improved kuno), it's partially the fault of the SEC and DTI. They are easily swayed by sweet talks and visions in life for the common people kuno.

No wonder di sila kapugong ani, kay for instance, mismo ang akong relative nga naa sa DTI, tua sa halos kinatas-an sa usa ka MLM nga kamatyonon na sa Manila!!! No wonder sayon ra kaayo nila pag-ilad sa tawo kay legit gud kuno.

And to the one who said that "there are people who prefer to remain in their current financial state and do not have ambitions in life", I'm sorry to say that we all have ambitions, great or small.

The only difference is that these people who have been into MLM and have wisely shunned them are the ones that give more weight to "DELICADEZA" and ethical/moral responsibility than those preaching about cars, high ambitions and dreams of prosperity.

If you truly love MLM, the people you hate wouldn't matter because all you ever see is the $$$$$$. Or is it really because you found it out to be too good to be true?

MLM will not die, but it will never prosper, much like the thought that Christ is an alien being. Not in a thousand years.

[d`monyita]

ay dodong...do not get me wrong...just coz i believe in MLM...it doesn't mean i believe in ALL networking companies...dami dami dami dyan..ILAD jud.Â* like those mentioned here. especially those nga dili consumable ang products..shoes and the like.

i used to be with one mlm whose products are still very good. do i use pa rin? yes. the toothgel jud kay maau kaau.Â* and of course, especially with a little boy, the gelly is a constant in the house. do i subscribe to the marketing plan? not anymore.Â*

do i subscribe to making ilad people? NO I DON'T.Â* i do not believe in promising things that i cannot deliver...such as promising to build my downline's network.Â* you have heared it i am sure..."just invest...ako bahala sa network mo."Â* ang akin is...if u join..i promise to work as hard as u work.Â*

filipino mlms? most are as you say...scams. I AGREE WITH YOU.Â* wala pa jud ako nakitang pinoy mlm nga ok ang system.Â* ang usa pa nga question...mulusot kaha ning mga bastardong companies in the USA?Â*

and when i say legit...doesn't just mean legal.Â* what i mean is...it is real.Â* it is being used as a means to move a product.Â* that is why networking is here to stay. Â*most companies have some form of networking.Â* from the factory..to the wholesaler...to the middle men..to the sari-sari store.Â* in some like avon it is.. from franchise managers to franchise dealers to certified beauty consultants. in others it is agency managers to group managers to unit managers to sales agents.Â* ALL ARE MOVING PRODUCTS.Â*

and as for any business...even sa traditional...ano ba talga...di ba EVERYONE IS IN IT FOR THE MONEY? Even in one's job..why do we work hardÂ* So that we will get promoted...AND MORE PAY!Â* prankahanay na lang gud.Â* unethical nga and immoral ang ginagawa ng iba in network marketing...I AGREE WITH YOU again....but there are people who are in networking nga tarong ug huna2x.Â* and ok din ang puso. i think that instead of insulting people coz of their choice of career...ang dapat nato focus-an ang issue nga companies that get resurrected..and the lack of a governing body over MLM companies.Â* or if there is...why they lack teeth.Â* kasi madami din sakim sa government...nabibili karamihan...ang prinsipyo may presyo.Â* it isn't that they are swayed by visions of whatever...that is just press release...

the best network is a network of users in my opinion. that is how residual income is derived.Â* that is why kahit lumiit na ang kita ng mga nasa former company ko...there are still people earning money because there are still USERS ng product.Â* that is coz the products are very good and proven effective.Â*

and as for ambition...maybe i should have said...people have daydreams...and people have goals.Â* difference being, dong, that people who get their goals..their dreams...are the ambitious ones.Â* ones that do not subscribe to.. "pinanganak ako poor...that is why mamamatay ako poor."Â* and do not tell me that people like that do not exist...coz i personally know some of them hehehehe.Â* and guess what...i was talking to them about the prosperity of God when they said that...and not network marketing.Â* they seem not to want to believe that God is a good God and that God wants us to prosper.

oh well....sarcasm will work for some...others respond to good words.Â* as for me and my personal issues with some people...i don't hate them...i just cannot respect them...and i cannot work with people i do not respect.Â* true leaders think of their people above themselves.Â* i believe that they are not true leaders because of an issue that had nothing to do with our network.Â* our personalities just do not click.Â* as i said before...i am working on it.Â*

i am not an employee. i can go back anytime i want and build my network.Â* i just don't want to right now.Â* do i still love the company? yep. do i still believe in MLM? yep. am i using the products? yep. am i earning kahit papano? yep.Â* kahit na almost one year na ako na walang bagong recruit.Â* kasi madami akong users lang ng product.Â* do i have other sources of income. oo naman.Â* am i earning there? yep.

times are hard...there are people who sell their soul so that they can feed their families.Â* let us count our blessings that we dont have to resort to that. PRAISE GOD!

di va? hala kahaba na nito. hehehehe. peace to all!

[lokster]

:mrgreen:

MLM = Scam if filipino origin

but

if international origin MLM = not scam, well not all

tearsforfears and naomi, you guys are pretty one sided lang. d'monyita has a point,
and she made fun of me kanina when shes like, on my side.

neways, this threaed should have died a long time ago

[naomi6000]

So unsa man diay na ng MLM company imo lokster? ..if its true na international inyong MLM..e share lang gud..simple raman tingali na ng task for u..