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    wala kahibaw si noynoy ani.. kita ray kbaw hahahaha

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    hahaha.... yeah gordon is a good leader but how did he reacted when he went here in cebu na gamay ra media ang ni tambong... gisapot man nuon... I do like gordon kai naa jud cya daghan nabuhat but to think nga mura cyag bata nga ni reacted ato... its degrading na nuon sa akong paminaw... and to think nga nahan ko anang erap... ka way nada ana... ni dagan raman na kai nahan cya mo balos ni arroyo...

    Bisan pag kinsa ang mo lingkod pagkapresidente kung d sad ta mo lihok useless nah... its not who's the elected president, its us who wants change... ang pinoy lang jud kai hadlok ug pagbag o.... scared of how change will affect their usual and boring lives... if we really want change, accept who's been chosen by the masses and do your thing to make things better for you and to the nation...

  3. #63
    Quote Originally Posted by stronghanz View Post
    Reasons why Gibo Teodoro didnt win?
    Its because he is a dog of the administration and majority of the filipino hates the administration of pgma, good example is trillanes, even he doesnt have money he win for the senators position..

    its obvious from the start, no matter how many genius will run for president as long its in the administration he/she cant win, THATS THE FACT! PERIOD!!!!
    Agree ... but the disadvantages is sayang ang mga Admin nga worthy for the position ... tungod admin bisan walay labot anang pangawat diha madamay lang .... example si Gibo ....

  4. #64
    Quote Originally Posted by johnmarwel View Post
    agree jud ko ani bro... kai kung ni dagan pani cya nga d admin, there's a big possibility nga mo daug ni cya and maybe wa jud ni dagan c noy2x... he has the skill and intelligence but natimingan lang jud cya nga naa cya sa administration... but if noy2x and gibo will unite, dako kaau ug possibility nga mo prosper jud ang ato country... hehehe... hope nga mahitabo ni...
    Yah unite ni sila Next Year, Gibo is invited sa cabinet ni NoyNoy .... according ni Kris

  5. #65
    Quote Originally Posted by rickflag View Post
    agree ko nimo bro. makaluya ang result sa election. well as they saying goes "We deserve our government" so kung naa tay daghan problema in the future blame ourselves kay pataka lang tag vote padala lang sa media, showbiz, surveys.
    Unsa may kasulti nimo sa ingon aning klasi mga tawo .... masuko raba ning uban ug mo ingon ta ug mga kuan nga mao mana tinood ....

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    Quote Originally Posted by amingb View Post
    Unsa may kasulti nimo sa ingon aning klasi mga tawo .... masuko raba ning uban ug mo ingon ta ug mga kuan nga mao mana tinood ....
    mao jud na cla bro... sagdi nlang... hehehe... ^_^

    OT: kung unsa man gani mahitabo sa ato nation, naa sad ta responsibility ana... as what i said, naa rana nato tanan kung mag unite ta and do everything we could to make this country prosperous... kung d ninyo madawat ang nakadaug much better nga kamo nlang ang mo dagan.. hehehe.. ^_^ tingali pa diayg makadaug...

  7. #67
    Quote Originally Posted by johnmarwel View Post
    hahaha.... yeah gordon is a good leader but how did he reacted when he went here in cebu na gamay ra media ang ni tambong... gisapot man nuon... I do like gordon kai naa jud cya daghan nabuhat but to think nga mura cyag bata nga ni reacted ato... its degrading na nuon sa akong paminaw... and to think nga nahan ko anang erap... ka way nada ana... ni dagan raman na kai nahan cya mo balos ni arroyo...

    Bisan pag kinsa ang mo lingkod pagkapresidente kung d sad ta mo lihok useless nah... its not who's the elected president, its us who wants change... ang pinoy lang jud kai hadlok ug pagbag o.... scared of how change will affect their usual and boring lives... if we really want change, accept who's been chosen by the masses and do your thing to make things better for you and to the nation...
    Para nako bro sa systema ni ang sayop sa pinas ... makatapolan man gud ning systema nato .... i vote Gibo kay siya ra jud Vocal kaau anang Charter Change particularly ang Economic Provision sa constitution which is very Protectionist ....

    Kita mga pinoy mga low IQ man ta dili ta Genius dili nato kaya ang bag-ong technology nga kita ang magbuhat ... magtanom lang ta ug kamote mas maau pa ...

    Sa ingon ani nga case which is most of our neighbor adapted is to open the Market to Foreign Investor para naay Technology Transfer .... only the PEZA is allowed to have 100% ownership but PEZA is very limited compare sa Unlimited Investment which should be allow sa atong constitution .... ang effect ani is Trabaho daghan Trabaho

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    Quote Originally Posted by stronghanz View Post
    Reasons why Gibo Teodoro didnt win?
    Its because he is a dog of the administration and majority of the filipino hates the administration of pgma, good example is trillanes, even he doesnt have money he win for the senators position..

    its obvious from the start, no matter how many genius will run for president as long its in the administration he/she cant win, THATS THE FACT! PERIOD!!!!
    Sorry but I will have to disagree on that.

    the fact is, it is because a lot of people still are trapped in the traditional notions of "winnability".

    Gibo actually represents good & "new politics". But unfortunately, his reputation as a new politician is damaged by mere association w/ the traditional politicians. Voters will view the would-be new politician as nothing but another old "trapo" or traditional politician. That's how exactly how trapo thinking is.

    Old politics in their concept of "winnability", from the beginning, is to win by having: name recognition, political machinery, financial and other resources, & endorsements.

    No doubt, money, machinery, popularity, & network support are understandable & important. But this is a one-sided and potentially disempowering picture. If we are stuck w/ understanding the elements of success in this traditional manner, at that very moment, we become paradoxically our own worst stumbling block to success.

    The trapo thinking is so obsessed with popularity, money, machinery, & endorsements that it would do anything, including engaging in questionable means (including black propaganda), to obtain these important ingredients for electoral victory.

    If we believe that a new politics anchored on solid reputations & qualifications will not win because promising candidates do not have the traditional elements of "winnability", then we deny the birth of new politics. We have automatically limited our horizon on what is possible and doable, thereby dooming the whole enterprise from the start.

    Psychologists call this self-defeating framework, "learned helplessness". When this kind of mentality is present from the very beginning, then the outcome is predictable. Phrases like "we have to be practical", "we have to be realistic", "let us choose the lesser evil", "no one is perfect but he has the machinery" start to prevail.

    Do you think this arrangement will usher in the new politics? Of course not! In reality, as a nation & individually, we have suffered so much because of this belief in the "lesser evil". Have we forgotten that, once, Erap was the "lesser evil"? Have we also forgotten how many civil society & business leaders saw PGMA as a "lesser evil" then?

    LET ME RE-ITERATE, it is not that Gibo didn't win because of his association to Gloria. It is because a lot of people are still trapped in the traditional notions of "winnability".

    ---000---

    Though Noynoy is now our new President (and we should help for the betterment of our nation), it doesn't mean we shouldn't stop talking about his controversies...read the article carefully:

    Family’s wealth depends on Noynoy presidency
    By Miriam Grace A. Go, abs-cbnNews.com/ Newsbreak
    Posted at 05/08/2010 3:56 PM | Updated as of 05/11/2010 3:17 PM

    MANILA, Philippines—Hacienda Luisita, the vast landholdings whose distribution to farmers has been dodged for decades by the family of presidential aspirant Benigno “Noynoy” Cojuangco Aquino III, is bankrupt...

    ...Inevitably, Aquino’s reason for seeking the most powerful office is doubted; his adherence to family interests, closely watched. While his allies think that he is sincere when he promised at the start of his presidential campaign that he would distribute Hacienda Luisita to the farmers, his critics are convinced that he would bow to pressures from his family—just like his mother, President Corazon Aquino, did.

    The critics have reason to be wary. In the past 3 months, Aquino has modified at least 3 times his statements on what to do with the hacienda, indicating that he does not have his own firm position on the matter. Various media reports show that just before the campaign period, Aquino said that he wouldn’t be able to dictate on HLI because it’s a private company. Days later, when he kicked off his campaign in his home province of Tarlac, he said that although his family wants to, the lands couldn’t be distributed yet because some parcels had been mortgaged with banks when some loans matured and had to be restructured.

    There was a point that Aquino also said that direct distribution of lands wouldn’t be productive for farmers because each of them would get less than a hectare.

    He has also issued conflicting statements about how his family intends to settle the hacienda’s debts, not helping at all to douse suspicions that they simply don’t want to let go of the property, which is said to be as big as Makati and Pasig cities combined.

    Complicating the matter was the statement made by Aquino’s first cousin, lawyer Fernando Cojuangco, in an interview with the New York Times in April—that the family has no intention of distributing the lands...

    “One party is the politician (Aquino), and the other party would be the businessman (Cojuangco). It would be a big family discussion if Senator Aquino wins. If he doesn’t win then we can forget about all the promises and possibly Hacienda Luisita will remain” as such...

    BusinessWorld columnist Rene Azurin is convinced that Aquino’s bid for the presidency is fueled by nothing else but his family’s resolve to keep Hacienda Luisita.

    “It is reasonable to believe that Noynoy Aquino’s presidential campaign is really only about land, about a last-ditch attempt of his family to hang on to their pelf and power,” he said in a commentary.

    Citing the mounting debts of the hacienda, Azurin added, “Bottom line: if he does not become president, the family will lose their wealth and power.” ...

    In 2 well-publicized conversions—the 500 hectares for the Technopark, and the 80 hectares for the Subic-Clark-Tarlac Expressway (SCTEX)—the Cojuangcos gave the farmers only 3% of the proceeds, when they own 33% of HLI. HLI was paid P2 billion and P83 million, respectively for those lands.

    This division of proceeds is flawed, according to Cavite Rep. Jesus Crispin “Boying” Remulla, who initiated a congressional probe into the overpricing of the right-of-way payment made by the government to Hacienda Luisita in connection with the SCTEX project.

    full article:
    http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/nation/05...noy-presidency
    Last edited by giddyboy; 05-13-2010 at 12:54 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by amingb View Post
    Para nako bro sa systema ni ang sayop sa pinas ... makatapolan man gud ning systema nato .... i vote Gibo kay siya ra jud Vocal kaau anang Charter Change particularly ang Economic Provision sa constitution which is very Protectionist ....

    Kita mga pinoy mga low IQ man ta dili ta Genius dili nato kaya ang bag-ong technology nga kita ang magbuhat ... magtanom lang ta ug kamote mas maau pa ...

    Sa ingon ani nga case which is most of our neighbor adapted is to open the Market to Foreign Investor para naay Technology Transfer .... only the PEZA is allowed to have 100% ownership but PEZA is very limited compare sa Unlimited Investment which should be allow sa atong constitution .... ang effect ani is Trabaho daghan Trabaho
    got the point daha bro... hehehe... mao gani nga we need to accept changes... hehehe.. if needed nga mo apil ta sa mga paggamit ug mga bag o nga technology, much better... and about cha2x much better if we must all decide to that para wai pagbasol sa ulahi...

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    OT: na out of topic naman ta ani... hehehe.. tulog sa ko... naa pako work unya gabii... hehhee... au2x mo...

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