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  1. #561

    Quote Originally Posted by bearish View Post
    Dili man sad siguro ingon nga mag sige na lang ug sunod ang LGU sir. At least mo initiate lang sa mga follow-ups, mo bundol lang sa mga hingtungdan nga ahensya nga maoy responsible mo repair ba. Magpa awt nalang sab diay ang LGU kung dili mo lihok ang National? Magpa abot kanus-a mo tugpa ang buwan... ohhyyyyyyy.
    in short, DAWAT LIMPYO lang ang mayor.

  2. #562
    Quote Originally Posted by raski View Post
    Nice propaganda for your madame Paz, but forgive me and other posters for acting with incredible incredulity as we are not idiots who can be easily fooled by carefully crafted lies and subterfuge. It may work on the poor, uneducated voters of Lapu-Lapu though, as is evident enough in the fact that your Radazas have won every election so far.

    In any case you are wasting your time here. First, you yourself admit that this is not the target crowd of your "pro-poor" Madane Paz, so stories about her fake sympathy for the poor are wasted on us. Second, when a newbie to istorya posts exclusively on one issue in favor of a certain politician, the credibility of all his or her posts is automatically put in question for reasons of possible bias and perceptions of being "a hired hand" which has the immediate effect of raising everybody's suspicions.

    I would end by saying that a right-thinking person would know when he or she is wasting his or her time and leave with the (proverbial) tail between their legs as soon as they realize what a waste of time their unproductive efforts are.
    Let's be open to all sentiments and not say anything that would tend to discourage anyone. In fact, we should encourage more posters here regardless of their beliefs, social class, affiliations or orientations. That way, we uphold democracy and shun bigotry.

  3. #563
    Quote Originally Posted by raski View Post
    Nice propaganda for your madame Paz, but forgive me and other posters for acting with incredible incredulity as we are not idiots who can be easily fooled by carefully crafted lies and subterfuge. It may work on the poor, uneducated voters of Lapu-Lapu though, as is evident enough in the fact that your Radazas have won every election so far.

    In any case you are wasting your time here. First, you yourself admit that this is not the target crowd of your "pro-poor" Madane Paz, so stories about her fake sympathy for the poor are wasted on us. Second, when a newbie to istorya posts exclusively on one issue in favor of a certain politician, the credibility of all his or her posts is automatically put in question for reasons of possible bias and perceptions of being "a hired hand" which has the immediate effect of raising everybody's suspicions.

    I would end by saying that a right-thinking person would know when he or she is wasting his or her time and leave with the (proverbial) tail between their legs as soon as they realize what a waste of time their unproductive efforts are.
    LOL! So ang dawaton sa istorya mao lang ang mga anti-radaza sentiments? kung mao na, suspect sab ang fairness ug equality sa istorya.net diay?

    Ayaw buhi ana nga statements oi, dili ni nimo monopoly ang maong site. Pagka diktador ug elitista pud ninyo ug batasan oi! Toinks!

  4. #564
    Raski your a Bigot!

  5. #565
    Quote Originally Posted by brad2005 View Post
    in short, DAWAT LIMPYO lang ang mayor.
    I'm sure the mayor is doing his job in following it up; after all, delays in project implementation, whether national or otherwise, are always attributed to him, whether rightly or wrongly. It's just that DPWH people are not famed for being prompt in their actions, no matter how you prod them. Besides, this shows that Radaza is no tyrant, otherwise, the heads of DPWH employees who caused these delays must have rolled already by this time. This must be a case of damned if he does and damned if he doesn't.

  6. #566
    Quote Originally Posted by bearish View Post
    Yes, the two bridges in lapu2x/mandaue are under MCBMB. But I think the traffic light that is being referred to is under the National Government as it is located at the National Road. I am not sure though, but that is the way I see it.

    The current traffic scheme, the manual traffic system being implemented there I think is beneficial than the computerized one. It has been observed that there were less congestion, less accident with the manually controlled traffic than the other one.

    On the other hand, if it's otherwise not beneficial to the lapu2x constituents and it already took this long to repair it, the LGU is not exempted from the blame. The LGU must make initiatives to have those things repaired by the DPWH or it's respective agency because it's constituents are being affected and it's the obligation of the LGU to defend the right of it's constituents. The TS have a point, but it's just that it's better to leave it that way than going back to the integrated/computerize traffic system.
    Ah, ok.

    The traffic lights were part of a project by DOTC involving 32 intersections under MCDP I funded by the 17th Yen Credit Package of the then Overseas Economic Cooperation Fund (OECF) of Japan.

    The MCDP Chairman under whose term the project was implemented was Cebu City Mayor Tommy Osmena. The Lapu-lapu City mayor at the time was Ernest Weigel, Jr. It was also Tommy who insisted that only CITOM personnel be trained on how to repair the traffic lights. Other mayors, from Talisay to Consolacion, did not object.

    Thus, only CITOM people know how to repair these traffic lights up to now. In fact, Mandaue has the same problem everytime one of its DOTC-MCDP streetlights bogs down; they have to wait until CITOM can send repairmen. On the other hand, CITOM, by its very mandate, prioritizes Cebu City before it sends out a team to Mandaue; sometimes, that can take ages.

    Meanwhile, everyone knows that Radaza and Osmena aren't exactly good buddies. Which is probably the reason why the DOTC-MCDP traffic lights in Lapu-lapu City have remained unrepaired despite repeated requests and follow-ups until now. If similar repairs can take ages in Mandaue, how much more in Lapu-lapu?

    Brad, i kinda like your sensible observation on this.

  7. #567
    Quote Originally Posted by PascualDelaSerna View Post
    Ah, ok.

    The traffic lights were part of a project by DOTC involving 32 intersections under MCDP I funded by the 17th Yen Credit Package of the then Overseas Economic Cooperation Fund (OECF) of Japan.

    The MCDP Chairman under whose term the project was implemented was Cebu City Mayor Tommy Osmena. The Lapu-lapu City mayor at the time was Ernest Weigel, Jr. It was also Tommy who insisted that only CITOM personnel be trained on how to repair the traffic lights. Other mayors, from Talisay to Consolacion, did not object.

    Thus, only CITOM people know how to repair these traffic lights up to now. In fact, Mandaue has the same problem everytime one of its DOTC-MCDP streetlights bogs down; they have to wait until CITOM can send repairmen. On the other hand, CITOM, by its very mandate, prioritizes Cebu City before it sends out a team to Mandaue; sometimes, that can take ages.

    Meanwhile, everyone knows that Radaza and Osmena aren't exactly good buddies. Which is probably the reason why the DOTC-MCDP traffic lights in Lapu-lapu City have remained unrepaired despite repeated requests and follow-ups until now. If similar repairs can take ages in Mandaue, how much more in Lapu-lapu?

    Brad, i kinda like your sensible observation on this.
    I mean, bearish not brad. Sorry

  8. #568
    Quote Originally Posted by PascualDelaSerna View Post
    Ah, ok.

    The traffic lights were part of a project by DOTC involving 32 intersections under MCDP I funded by the 17th Yen Credit Package of the then Overseas Economic Cooperation Fund (OECF) of Japan.

    The MCDP Chairman under whose term the project was implemented was Cebu City Mayor Tommy Osmena. The Lapu-lapu City mayor at the time was Ernest Weigel, Jr. It was also Tommy who insisted that only CITOM personnel be trained on how to repair the traffic lights. Other mayors, from Talisay to Consolacion, did not object.

    Thus, only CITOM people know how to repair these traffic lights up to now. In fact, Mandaue has the same problem everytime one of its DOTC-MCDP streetlights bogs down; they have to wait until CITOM can send repairmen. On the other hand, CITOM, by its very mandate, prioritizes Cebu City before it sends out a team to Mandaue; sometimes, that can take ages.

    Meanwhile, everyone knows that Radaza and Osmena aren't exactly good buddies. Which is probably the reason why the DOTC-MCDP traffic lights in Lapu-lapu City have remained unrepaired despite repeated requests and follow-ups until now. If similar repairs can take ages in Mandaue, how much more in Lapu-lapu?

    Brad, i kinda like your sensible observation on this.
    Let it take forever on repairing that particular traffic light. I hope Radaza give a very good pay to those CTMS personnel manning the traffic there. They are working hard, rain or shine. I like the way it is handled right now.

    LGUs have local autonomy. It can do whatever it wants over it's jurisdiction. Throw those CITOMS away over the window.

  9. #569
    Quote Originally Posted by Lutong Makaw View Post
    LOL! So ang dawaton sa istorya mao lang ang mga anti-radaza sentiments? kung mao na, suspect sab ang fairness ug equality sa istorya.net diay?

    Ayaw buhi ana nga statements oi, dili ni nimo monopoly ang maong site. Pagka diktador ug elitista pud ninyo ug batasan oi! Toinks!
    Read the post carefully before responding. You are free to post all the pro-Radaza propaganda that you want. But other posters are also free to state the reasons why they don't believe you. It's simple common sense.

    What you should refrain from doing is attacking other posters personally. Calling people "diktador" or "elitista" smacks of immaturity and turns the forum into a circus of uncivilized behavior. I hardly think acting in this manner is going to make people more likely to believe you and think Radaza is the best thing to happen to Lapu-Lapu since Shangri-La. However, if you think this is an effective strategy for winning people over then go ahead, just as long as you're sure you're not going to get banned.

  10. #570
    Quote Originally Posted by PascualDelaSerna View Post
    Let's be open to all sentiments and not say anything that would tend to discourage anyone. In fact, we should encourage more posters here regardless of their beliefs, social class, affiliations or orientations. That way, we uphold democracy and shun bigotry.
    People can discuss whatever they want as long as they don't resort to personal attacks and stay on-topic. The purpose of the politics forum is to foster discussion about politics, and not to "uphold democracy and shun bigotry" as you say. In fact, you can even post threads in support of dictatorship if you want to...

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