AIM Global Dicussions

[honey89]

nanung mahal man kau na inyong alive compared sa uban??and i know someone nga iyang relative kay iyang gipatake sa alive kay naay side effect..i'll ask him about it lang again kay kalimot ko exactly what basta ang nahinumduman nko kay nagsakit ang tiyan..

This is possible kay baka naa certain ingredients na dili cya hiyang. Parehas sa akong mama, molabad iyang ulo, pero sa akong manghud, ako, akong lolo, og akong bana, okay ra cya. If it happened once, I would say it's just an isolated case. Pero if balik-balik na gani, then perhaps nireact iyang lawas sa mga ingredients.

[honey89]

First of all, I would like to apologize to Miss Honey89 for what my friend did... I'm sorry... I am already communicating to her and I will try to find out the reason why she did that.. Once again, I'm sorry ate.....

I thought it's him? The person who talked to me in e-mail was him.

Anyways, regarding AIM Global, I myself am not questioning if their product is effective or not. What I am questioning is their style or RECRUITING people. Promising them that they can get P10K+ without even telling them HOW to do it... They are giving false hope to the people.. Just like what UNO did....

I don't know, maybe you just didn't have good experience with whoever you talked to. I would disagree with the "without telling them how to do it" because the truth is they have too many activities, seminars, business opportunities meetings, etc. Di ba this is the reason why so many people consider it as a suspicious MLM company? There's just too much emphasis on business because of these activities?

[honey89]

Ate, I'm sorry to disagree with this. Yes their product might be effective but their style, the POINTS BASED SYSTEM that they have, para lang yang points ng Laking National sa National Bookstore na you will get 10 points in every P1000.00 worth of purchase... What I don't get is that why are MLMs on the Point-bases system Can't they just do it like the normal way like they (AIM) is the wholesaler and their pawns (AIM GLOBAL recruits) are the distributors, and it is computed on the MONEY value, not sa points....

Also, I know that most MLM people don't like employment (just like UNO) but if you look at their (AIM) system, you will notice that the people they recuit are distributors, THEN, there are silver executives, gold executives and Global Ambassador.... This is the portion that I don't get... This is just like the normal employment hierarchy, the distributors are the employees, the silver executives are the supervisors, the gold executives are the managers and the Global Ambassadors are the department heads..... Please correct me if I am wrong...

Since this is all about consumer information, let's also try to be fair here. It's true that they have points-based system, and like other MLMS, they have pairing system (if you recruit side A and side B, you get bonus). But it's still okay if you cannot find any, because every product you sell has equivalent points. If you reach 1,500 points, you get either side A and side B, another 1,500 points, the remaining side. For 3,000 points, you get the same bonus for recruiting two people. They still give value for your purchases and sales. I don't know if UNO has this method, but so far, I haven't met any MLM that has this points system option. I don't see anything wrong with this one.

This also means that though there's hierarchy, you can get to different levels by two things: recruiting or selling. Generally, your analogy of distributors being employees, silver executives as supervisors, so on and so forth, may hold true; but again, that depends on the person you're dealing with. I for one, if I would just be a hard-core seller, can become a global ambassador without recruiting anyone. I just don't think it will be as fast as those who recruit people.

[darkhero]

mao ni akong nasabtan sa sitwasyon - namaligya ug product ang aim global nga at least 8 times more ang price compare sa original unya "No Approved Therapeutic Claims" man unta.

about sa effectivity sa ilang product, tentative pa na. why? kay "no approved therapeutic claims" man. mismo taga aim global na ang nagsulat ana. c'mon 3 to 4 years of operation, unya wala na nila matangtang sa ilang pag-repack?

about sa positive effects sa ilang product, naa may gitawag nga placebo effect... miski inert ang gitumar, mo-effect jafon tungod kay mao man ang gipatuo sa nitumar, mahulog psychological na lang ang rason ngano naayo.

para nako mahal ra ilang produkto nga WALAY klaro makaayo, unya dili pa tested for side-effects. tanan baya naay side-effect miski natural pa na, for example - marijuana, opium, chocolate etc2x. even water therapy can lead to water intoxication.

ang ako lang gikakuyawan kay naa ra ba opposite sa placebo, ang nocebo. mao nay delikado kay instead of positive effects, negative na hinuon. miski inert pa pwede jafon na mo-resulta sa negative.

mas maayo nga ilang klarohon unsa jud makuha sa mga tawo ana ilang product, dili kay puro ra positive ilang angkonon unya ang negative i-deny or magpalusot kay "healing crisis" daw which is "normal" kuno. hinuon sakto pud - death is quite normal.

so far akong nauyonan kay ila ra man gift checks. anyway maminaw jafon ko sa uban mo-testify miski wala pa klaro.

[elmariachi]

Since this is all about consumer information, let's also try to be fair here. It's true that they have points-based system, and like other MLMS, they have pairing system (if you recruit side A and side B, you get bonus). But it's still okay if you cannot find any, because every product you sell has equivalent points. If you reach 1,200 points, you get either side A and side B, another 1,200 points, the remaining side. For 2,400 points(matched), you get the same bonus for recruiting two people. They still give value for your purchases and sales. I don't know if UNO has this method, but so far, I haven't met any MLM that has this points system option. I don't see anything wrong with this one.

This also means that though there's hierarchy, you can get to different levels by two things: recruiting or selling. Generally, your analogy of distributors being employees, silver executives as supervisors, so on and so forth, may hold true; but again, that depends on the person you're dealing with. I for one, if I would just be a hard-core seller, can become a global ambassador without recruiting anyone. I just don't think it will be as fast as those who recruit people.

very well said honey89....just hav to make some minor correction on d points.....but u got d whole concept!

[honey89]

namaligya ug product ang aim global nga at least 8 times more ang price compare sa original unya "No Approved Therapeutic Claims" man unta.

Yes, that's something they need to address.

about sa effectivity sa ilang product, tentative pa na. why? kay "no approved therapeutic claims" man. mismo taga aim global na ang nagsulat ana. c'mon 3 to 4 years of operation, unya wala na nila matangtang sa ilang pag-repack?

It's mandatory for herbal supplement sellers and manufacturers to have them printed in their products because they are not labeled as drugs or medications. I don't know the rules of BFAD if having so means they have not been evaluated or have not gone through their testing, but what I know is that the note "No Approved Therapeutic Claim" is not reserved to Alive or any other product of AIM Global only. You can ask Greg Sanchez, who produces Lacto Pafi. You can check out other herbal supplements sold in the United States. Even websites of supplement sellers carry disclaimers such as this. You can even see it in commercials of Nanz, Cholesblock, and other related products.

about sa positive effects sa ilang product, naa may gitawag nga placebo effect... miski inert ang gitumar, mo-effect jafon tungod kay mao man ang gipatuo sa nitumar, mahulog psychological na lang ang rason ngano naayo.

Have you tested it yourself? My lolo is sick of cancer, and it helped him tremendously--and get this, he doesn't know he's drinking it. Just few days ago. Your premise of psychological effectiveness doesn't hold true. I also don't want to neglect the importance of psychology in the importance of healing. I for one suffered from depression some few months ago, and if I didn't will my mind to think that I am healed, I don't think I would ever get out of the situation. If a person wants complete healing, it shouldn't just happen in the body but also in the mind.

para nako mahal ra ilang produkto nga WALAY klaro makaayo, unya dili pa tested for side-effects. tanan baya naay side-effect miski natural pa na, for example - marijuana, opium, chocolate etc2x. even water therapy can lead to water intoxication.

That's why they have "No approved therapeutic claims." You cannot depend on it to cure you. You still need doctors, nurses, and even medications to help you out. In fact, the way I see it, no one really offers you any guarantees in medicine, whether alternative or conventional. Well-advertised drugs and medications have their side effects. Even chemo and radiation don't offer any guarantee of a cure.

But we believe in the product simply because it has helped us, and it's not only Filipinos who get to experience it. You can check out Health Ranger. He's one of the leading health advocates in the United States and takes not just 1, 2, 3 Alive tablets every day but as many as 10.

ang ako lang gikakuyawan kay naa ra ba opposite sa placebo, ang nocebo. mao nay delikado kay instead of positive effects, negative na hinuon. miski inert pa pwede jafon na mo-resulta sa negative.

If you can check out my previous reply, this is possible, because we have different types of bodies. There could be some ingredients that your body is not used to. My brother could not take anything with iron. Since Alive has iron, I would not dare let him take it to avoid allergic reactions, though Nature's Way has one that doesn't contain any.

[nixkee]

nya nanung e-point system man jud??nga pwede man kanang tanan e-base sa money value db??kay malugi??di man guro basta macalculate lang og tarong..

[elmariachi]

mao ni akong nasabtan sa sitwasyon - namaligya ug product ang aim global nga at least 8 times more ang price compare sa original unya "No Approved Therapeutic Claims" man unta.

about sa effectivity sa ilang product, tentative pa na. why? kay "no approved therapeutic claims" man. mismo taga aim global na ang nagsulat ana. c'mon 3 to 4 years of operation, unya wala na nila matangtang sa ilang pag-repack?

about sa positive effects sa ilang product, naa may gitawag nga placebo effect... miski inert ang gitumar, mo-effect jafon tungod kay mao man ang gipatuo sa nitumar, mahulog psychological na lang ang rason ngano naayo.

para nako mahal ra ilang produkto nga WALAY klaro makaayo, unya dili pa tested for side-effects. tanan baya naay side-effect miski natural pa na, for example - marijuana, opium, chocolate etc2x. even water therapy can lead to water intoxication.

ang ako lang gikakuyawan kay naa ra ba opposite sa placebo, ang nocebo. mao nay delikado kay instead of positive effects, negative na hinuon. miski inert pa pwede jafon na mo-resulta sa negative.

mas maayo nga ilang klarohon unsa jud makuha sa mga tawo ana ilang product, dili kay puro ra positive ilang angkonon unya ang negative i-deny or magpalusot kay "healing crisis" daw which is "normal" kuno. hinuon sakto pud - death is quite normal.

so far akong nauyonan kay ila ra man gift checks. anyway maminaw jafon ko sa uban mo-testify miski wala pa klaro.

I would like to remind everyone that Alive!Whole Food Energizer, is a Natural Food Supplement..it's not a medicine..though it helps or support the synthetic medicine to cure a certain illness..

It took 35 years, before the breakthrough product "Alive!" was introduced in the market, way back 2005. It's 16,000 phyto-nutrients/anti-oxidants makes it a cleanser,healer, and energizer...

i found this forum about "no approved therapeutic claims labeled supplement", No Approved Therapeutic Claims


FYI, about Nature's Way Inc.

• 45 years
• Debt free
• NASDAQ traded/NYSE
• 700+ product lines
• U.S. FDA, HALAL, KOSHER
• 200+ Medical Doctors, Herbalist and Scientist
• Extensive research and development
• Clinical studies
• Over the counter products
• No. 1 Food Supplements/Herbal Company
• Frost and Sullivan Award 2004
• Direct Processing/Plantation/Careful Harvest Method
• High ORAC (Oxygen Radical Absorbance Capacity) value

[honey89]

nya nanung e-point system man jud??nga pwede man kanang tanan e-base sa money value db??kay malugi??di man guro basta macalculate lang og tarong..

I guess the answer is because that's just how they do things. As the TS has illustrated here, it's just like SM Advantage card. Why aren't we complaining with the points-based system of SM when, in fact, your hundreds of pesos is just equal to 1 point?

[elmariachi]

nya nanung e-point system man jud??nga pwede man kanang tanan e-base sa money value db??kay malugi??di man guro basta macalculate lang og tarong..

as to my understanding, it is designed to make the company last..it's hybrid marketing plan..Owner's vision is to create an MLM Company that will create a new good image of Network Marketing Industry in the Philippines.

They've been to many MLMs before..and that explains why it is point-based...