German Shepherd Dog Thread

[fairymyth]

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humper wrote
ah ok,so wat uve started to see are modern bloods.im also a fan of v.arlett's specially ulk ,the 95'seiger i supposed.but are more inclined with old lines like the v. arminius & vd.wienarau of the martins,almost always in fact my male is visum v. arminius linebred, 2.2.3.but nywy, just a word of CAUTION,one of my female,is a product of hockson's janhock,so far i like the way it produced specially when bred with my male,whose a direct son of japanese seiger falgo v.schlossgraben & bibi v. maxitrend...the croups & angulations are great...but my only comment regarding my female (& some,if not most janhock bitches),as per veterinary clinic researched data..is the fact that they are very prone to birthing problems (dystocia),3 out of 4..including my female has undergone ceasarian section!the problem i saw is the fact that they have weak nerves for contraction,shallow pelvic opening & very thin uterine lining,we've checked & compaired it with some bitches during C-sections.so please dont just be familiar with the looks but the overall physiology of a certain line as well




It seems na ni issue ka ug statement na gi mention gyud nimo si hockson of janhock.
Legally speaking, you should substantiate what you have stated not just by stating"per veterinary researched data". Common people may be impressed by that term but knowlegeable people know that this will not stand up in court. Is your statement based on randomized prospective trials or is your scientific research based on clinical evidence and was it statistically been shown na significant ang result and not just a series of a non significant number making your results anecdotal.
ang akora gusto masulti kay ug moissue ta ug statement na mohisgut ug ngalan sa tao unya possible na dili mayo, kinahanglan maproven before issuing such statament. ug si hockson of janhoch makabasa ani, naa gyud siya katunggod mangayo ug clinical evidence ug dili, naa cya katunggod mokiha against such a person na giprint na mabasa sa tanang tao. i think na kita respondsible enough na kahibalo sa atong gibuhat na mahimong makadaot sa ubang tao.

[jofre45]

iKaW 2Bag aNi FiDs......ahaha

[guilliam]

Thanks, much appreciated...

warmly welcome boss. post back nya on this thread if na kakuha mo and pics. so far wala pa man tingali naka post ug workline gsd on this thread, pics and experience of owners. thats something lacking

- g

[Nutley]

^^ kang jofre45 oh na GSD.looks like working dog man base sa iyang avatar.hehehe post daw jof beh.

[caloy_1212]

gud morning...naa lng ko pangutana about gsd pregnancy. last january 15,17,19 amo gpastudan ako female gsd...so expected karn march 17-19 ang due date. pero sa ako nabantayan at first months kay nidako cya den mura jud og buntis den karn na duol2 nlng sa due date mura man d buntis. ingn man sila na karn na time mas klaro na unta ang gdak-on sa tiyan pero tan-aw nko normal ra man...possible ba na buntis den dli mudako ang tiyan or gamay ra og puppies or purely wa cya ni take?

para maklaro lng akong huna huna...hehehehe thnks

[guilliam]

gud morning...naa lng ko pangutana about gsd pregnancy. last january 15,17,19 amo gpastudan ako female gsd...so expected karn march 17-19 ang due date. pero sa ako nabantayan at first months kay nidako cya den mura jud og buntis den karn na duol2 nlng sa due date mura man d buntis. ingn man sila na karn na time mas klaro na unta ang gdak-on sa tiyan pero tan-aw nko normal ra man...possible ba na buntis den dli mudako ang tiyan or gamay ra og puppies or purely wa cya ni take?

para maklaro lng akong huna huna...hehehehe thnks

nyor caloy, musta? long time no see and no read(sa forums ehehhe); ang pinaka best ana to settle your doubts and your mind is to have your bitch ultrasound. sa animal kingdom nyor doul sa u.p. lahug around 450 pesos ra pa ultrasound.

there are so many possibilities gyud ana; nag take then disintegrate ang pups; wala nag take; pregnant but very few puppy count; pregnant but the puppy/ies is too small; i understand what you are feeling ehehhehe. so to settle your mind; ipa ultrasound lang nya.. ako ana kay sige ka paabot and prepare nya negative diay sayang ra imo time and energy waiting and preparing.

- g

[Nutley]

@sir caloy: sunda jd na ang giingon ni nyor guilliam kay di ka magmahay.mao pod na akong gibuhat sa among gsd nga si Lex mom ni Bella.ako gipa ultrasound sa animal kingdom nya malingaw pod ka ug watch sa puppies inig ultrasound.post nya pic sa ultrasound,pagda lang og own usb nimo.

good luck sir caloy!

[guilliam]

@sir caloy: sunda jd na ang giingon ni nyor guilliam kay di ka magmahay.mao pod na akong gibuhat sa among gsd nga si Lex mom ni Bella.ako gipa ultrasound sa animal kingdom nya malingaw pod ka ug watch sa puppies inig ultrasound.post nya pic sa ultrasound,pagda lang og own usb nimo.

good luck sir caloy!

sa price nga P450 wala gyud kay mahay; at that price to put your mind at ease. sakto ingon nyor @nutley pag bring ug usb drive para didto i-save ang ultrasound images. prepare lang yourself for the worst pag mag pa ultrasound ka para dili kaayo disappointing sa imo IF negative man gani ang result. if negative nyor; oks ra kaayo na, dili pa time para sa imo gsd. bata pa man kaha imo bitch? theres always another heat bitaw. post nya pic niya ug background info. dugay dugay na gyud ta wala nagkita kay wala ko ka kita imo gsd ehehhe.

ikumusta nya ko palihug nila doc ging, doc marie and the staff there in animal kingdom if maka suroy ka didto.

- g

[humper]

humper wrote
ah ok,so wat uve started to see are modern bloods.im also a fan of v.arlett's specially ulk ,the 95'seiger i supposed.but are more inclined with old lines like the v. arminius & vd.wienarau of the martins,almost always in fact my male is visum v. arminius linebred, 2.2.3.but nywy, just a word of CAUTION,one of my female,is a product of hockson's janhock,so far i like the way it produced specially when bred with my male,whose a direct son of japanese seiger falgo v.schlossgraben & bibi v. maxitrend...the croups & angulations are great...but my only comment regarding my female (& some,if not most janhock bitches),as per veterinary clinic researched data..is the fact that they are very prone to birthing problems (dystocia),3 out of 4..including my female has undergone ceasarian section!the problem i saw is the fact that they have weak nerves for contraction,shallow pelvic opening & very thin uterine lining,we've checked & compaired it with some bitches during C-sections.so please dont just be familiar with the looks but the overall physiology of a certain line as well




It seems na ni issue ka ug statement na gi mention gyud nimo si hockson of janhock.
Legally speaking, you should substantiate what you have stated not just by stating"per veterinary researched data". Common people may be impressed by that term but knowlegeable people know that this will not stand up in court. Is your statement based on randomized prospective trials or is your scientific research based on clinical evidence and was it statistically been shown na significant ang result and not just a series of a non significant number making your results anecdotal.
ang akora gusto masulti kay ug moissue ta ug statement na mohisgut ug ngalan sa tao unya possible na dili mayo, kinahanglan maproven before issuing such statament. ug si hockson of janhoch makabasa ani, naa gyud siya katunggod mangayo ug clinical evidence ug dili, naa cya katunggod mokiha against such a person na giprint na mabasa sa tanang tao. i think na kita respondsible enough na kahibalo sa atong gibuhat na mahimong makadaot sa ubang tao.

gud day miss,i did not have any malice or ill intentions with my statement above...& basically not stated to infuriate any person.as it could happen (dystocia) in any certain bloodline,breeding,breed,etc.furthermore,to cut any negative misnomers,with regards to my statement above i viewed it as an act of overstatement that has been overlooked upon,i apologize for such rude statement,tactless naming of a person or his kennel name & or line,a person whom i have a great deal of respect in the field of GSD's.may this statement be greatly accepted as a means of reconsideration,by the person mentioned & all the istoryans.ty

[humper]

gud morning...naa lng ko pangutana about gsd pregnancy. last january 15,17,19 amo gpastudan ako female gsd...so expected karn march 17-19 ang due date. pero sa ako nabantayan at first months kay nidako cya den mura jud og buntis den karn na duol2 nlng sa due date mura man d buntis. ingn man sila na karn na time mas klaro na unta ang gdak-on sa tiyan pero tan-aw nko normal ra man...possible ba na buntis den dli mudako ang tiyan or gamay ra og puppies or purely wa cya ni take?

para maklaro lng akong huna huna...hehehehe thnks

gud day.just wanted to comment also,with regards to ur problem,hope its not a phantom or false pregnancy.but nywy,an ultra sound exam can be done but the thing with this exam is that its only effective 5 to 6 weeks coz it only locates heat waves created by fetal movement & at the same time,heart beat & eventhough has some success rate but not close to 70 %.ultrasound is not that helpful when asking for a pregnancy diagnosis,fetal counting & or fetal positioning in a late pregnancy (more than 7 weeks),in fact there are a lot of ultrasound failures that i've witnessed,one is from my friend who breeds beagles.her beagle is pregnant at 5 weeks with all the signs present,enlarged abdomen,nipples,etc. just to be sure,it was examined by means of ultrasound wherein the vet saw no fetal movement or fetal form & heart rate,declaring false pregnancy only to find out 5 dead pups that are fully formed 3 weeks later (late abortion).most theriogenologists (vets specializing in dog breeding) at the same time most vets here,suggests X-ray examination coz its a sure way of diagnosing late pregnancy due to the fact that the skeleton of the pups are already present (40 days up),the worry of radiation effect to the fetus or the dam,etc.associated with this exam is not alarming & has no reported side effects so far.it is also helpful in knowing fetal malposition which could help prevent dystocia,& fetal counting.hope this helps.