Elton John on Jesus Christ

[Bisayang_manok]

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where's her answer? these questions are for jews. Christians believe that we are no longer under the LAW of Moses. Therefore Christians have a different view and interpretation in relation to old testament laws mostly are found in the Torah particularly in the books :Leviticus and Deuteronomy.

[White-raven]

That is his view, but as per the bible, he is not influencial enough in changing what should be the essence of Jesus Christ.

[AmorsoloX]

koyawa pod ana nga word sir ui- self righteous pigs?

because like pigs.. they have only one thought at the moment (kaon og kaon ra jud).. they fail to see the other perspectives.. they fail to consider what motivated or influenced elton john or other people made a comment like that...

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they are judging the guy with their own standards.. wasnt it in their creed not to judge other people?... elton john may have said jesus was gay, but he never said jesus was right or wrong...

[AmorsoloX]

That is his view, but as per the bible, he is not influencial enough in changing what should be the essence of Jesus Christ.

each man is entitled to how he understand his universe/existence/God/life....

nobody can really understand the essence of the infinite intelligence by just reading scriptures alone.. it must be felt.. the greatest fool is he who have read thousands of literature about god but never in his life had truly felt god... for he is nothing more than automaton, unquestioning and unthinking to the instructions given...

to be human is to create your own understanding...

[Bisayang_manok]

because like pigs.. they have only one thought at the moment (kaon og kaon ra jud).. they fail to see the other perspectives.. they fail to consider what motivated or influenced elton john or other people made a comment like that...

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they are judging the guy with their own standards.. wasnt it in their creed not to judge other people?... elton john may have said jesus was gay, but he never said jesus was right or wrong...

in other words they are focus on one thought only. that's a good asset and successful people can attest that.

actually we know the motivation behind it but like what I said, you can't stop the orthodox from saying responses, they too have the right to express their opinion.

let me ask you, when somebody talks a lie about you or someone you love, would you rather be silent and hide yourself or would you say the truth and let people decide?

we can judge people's action.

[White-raven]

each man is entitled to how he understand his universe/existence/God/life....

nobody can really understand the essence of the infinite intelligence by just reading scriptures alone.. it must be felt.. the greatest fool is he who have read thousands of literature about god but never in his life had truly felt god... for he is nothing more than automaton, unquestioning and unthinking to the instructions given...

to be human is to create your own understanding...

Jesus Christ was with us before and was described.
There was nothing mentioned that Jesus Christ is Gay, celibacy is of a devotion, not liking the same ***.

[Bisayang_manok]

each man is entitled to how he understand his universe/existence/God/life....

nobody can really understand the essence of the infinite intelligence by just reading scriptures alone.. it must be felt.. the greatest fool is he who have read thousands of literature about god but never in his life had truly felt god... for he is nothing more than automaton, unquestioning and unthinking to the instructions given...

to be human is to create your own understanding...

let me share my thoughts.

Yes we can but it does not mean that its the right one. We have science as gauge when we speak about physical laws and phenomena. Science with its empirical evidence cannot tolerate unscientific heresies. sure average people can comment but ultimately its what science says that really counts. that's for physical laws.

now for things spiritual... sacred books are the gauge when we consider things that are spiritual or Religious. We cannot just invent things up. hey Jesus is gay, says who? well while doing meditation a guru appeared to me and he said that Jesus is gay. No, that's not okay. We have a perimeter and we should stay in it or else nothing would make sense.

[AmorsoloX]

let me ask you, when somebody talks a lie about you or someone you love, would you rather be silent and hide yourself or would you say the truth and let people decide?

we can judge people's action.

yup.. there entitled to their opinion.. you cant please anybody... words dont kill.... let them.. if you know what your doing and you know who you are.. you need not take offense... ang masuko tawagon og bayot kay kadto ra nagtago2x ang pagkabayot.. elton john wont get angry if you tell him he is gay...

the truth is what people percieve.. as long as their is no concrete evidence that is seen and proven by all.. truth us what we make it...

..............what is truth.... anything you want it to be..... as long as man is biased.. truth will never come out.. example.. in any religion. there is a strong bias in favor of their deity.. it makes them to be the truthful ones while the unbelievers are liars and untruthful... but keep in mind. its a two way street.. the other person sees you that way too with respect to his point of view...

now for things spiritual... sacred books are the gauge when we consider things that are spiritual or Religious. We cannot just invent things up. hey Jesus is gay, says who? well while doing meditation a guru appeared to me and he said that Jesus is gay. No, that's not okay. We have a perimeter and we should stay in it or else nothing would make sense.

then again.. wed go back to the origins of the sacred books, (sa S&O section nlang ta argue ana).. the perimiter is only imaginary and doesnt necessarilly need to be followed... anybody who forces you to live within the parameters takes away your freedom...

man has the right to freedom of thought ... that freedom is taken if it is given one-sided information thru media, religion, political propaganda.........

[AmorsoloX]

Yes we can but it does not mean that its the right one.

now let me ask you.. what is the right one?... if one is right, then the others must be wrong...

how do you know it is right? if you claim to be right.. arent you just becoming self-righteous? aernt you judging yourself to be superrior to others because you claim to be right?...

(before you answer, please dont give me something like because JC or Mohammed told me so or what, it will become circular reasoning...)

many people died already because of the idea of who is right and who is wrong... then again.. its human nature to point to blame somebody else for their own misfortune

[Bisayang_manok]

yup.. there entitled to their opinion.. you cant please anybody... words dont kill.... let them.. if you know what your doing and you know who you are.. you need not take offense... ang masuko tawagon og bayot kay kadto ra nagtago2x ang pagkabayot.. elton john wont get angry if you tell him he is gay...

you are not following. "ang masuko tawagon og bayot kay kadto ra nagtago2x ang pagkabayot" ? how is this statement related to my defense in favor of Jesus? Jesus Christ was never branded as gay by the people of his day. anyway my point there is if you know that somebody is telling a lie about your mother or any of your loved ones motago ra ka or mohilom lang? for example if somebody is spreading a news that your mother is a prostitute unsa imo buhaton, dili ka mobuhat og effort to correct the lie? normal and courageous people would go out and defend what is right.

that's what I am doing here. I am not taking the right of elton john, by all means he can named Jesus whatever name he can possible come up with. I am only correcting a lie. hope you got it this time.

the truth is what people percieve.. as long as their is no concrete evidence that is seen and proven by all.. truth us what we make it...

truth is always based on evidence. if there is no evidence then that is not truth only speculation. so its not true that truth is what we make it.

..............what is truth.... anything you want it to be..... as long as man is biased.. truth will never come out.. example.. in any religion. there is a strong bias in favor of their deity.. it makes them to be the truthful ones while the unbelievers are liars and untruthful... but keep in mind. its a two way street.. the other person sees you that way too with respect to his point of view...

no, truth is always based on evidence as oppose to "anything you want it to be". bias has nothing to do with it, bias follows only or evident upon the discovery of truth.

"the other person sees you that way too with respect to his point of view.." - maybe, but in this particular case only one view holds the truth. why? because the evidence says so. I can't say that its green when the traffic light flashes red and same thing with the other party, he can't say that its Yellow.

then again.. wed go back to the origins of the sacred books, (sa S&O section nlang ta argue ana).. the perimiter is only imaginary and doesnt necessarilly need to be followed... anybody who forces you to live within the parameters takes away your freedom...

man has the right to freedom of thought ... that freedom is taken if it is given one-sided information thru media, religion, political propaganda.........

what are you talking about? I was referring to the perimeters of the scriptures regarding Jesus Christ. you can't find the word gay being associated with Jesus, so what's elton john's basis? none, that's why I said we have to stay within the perimeters or nothing would make sense.

layo na kaayo ka og gi abtan. yes yes man has all the freedom , he can think what he likes to think but again if the evidence says it's RED then better not call it Green. focus on this particular issue and not on some other freedom talks.