fingolfin is abusive...

[JUDE_1:3]

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moderator power tripping...a sad creature who thinks that bullying people online is cool.

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let me post what have transpired during our discussion...

...- in religion, this is how man came to be ...

.. ON THE 6 DAY GOD CREATED MAN
.. it was adam
.. and then eve
.. then they had two sons, CAIN AND ABEL
.. CAIN killed Abel


.... now, ... IF we follow that analogy.

.. in the beginning, there were only 4 people on earth, ADAM, EVE, CAIN AND ABEL.
.. ABEL died .. hence, three remains .. ADAM, EVE AND CAIN ...

.. now, can somebody give us the names of the next children of adam and eve

.. where did cain go ??

.. if man really did came from adam and eve, then how come their descendants werent documented in the bible ?? how come there was a very big jump or gap in the time frame of genesis .. from adam and eve it went directly to Abraham and his children ...


.. and, today, it is a scientific fact, that incest can alter the genes, it will produce abnormalities on the offsprings.

.. again, if we follow that analogy ... granting that adam and eve had made lots of children after cain and abel, then FOR SURE, those children reproduced by way of incest, brother to sister, or even father to daughter, or even mother to son .....


.. that is the very reason why i don't believe in the fairy tale that is The Story of Genesis.


.. again, to those who believe in the Genesis ... give us the names of the next children of adam and eve

then this is how I responded....

To fingolfin No incest is not okay, that bible says so. To understand the dispensation of a particular period you must study the whole bible, yes the whole bible but then again how can you have understanding when all you do is read other people's work and spend zero time burning your own lamp.

God has a specific dispensation for different biblical periods, this is taught in Bible schools. The command or the Law forbidding to marry one's own sister or brother came during Moses' period or time. In fact most of the laws came during his time. This is the period where God formally and systematically revealed the Religion He wanted Israel to follow. Before this period no official laws to be followed existed.

During Adam and Eve's period the dispensation was simple-

"And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth. "

no laws of forbidding *** between relatives. God commanded them to multiply. Is this offensive? no because at that time they had no idea of what incest is. Their line was still pure. when humanity have reached a population and consciousness where it becomes dangerous to breed within your own relatives, God gave Moses' the law not to have sexual union with your own relatives.


During Adam's time, the genetic pool was pure. It wasn't until later during Moses' time, that incest was then forbidden as the genetic pool became less and less able to stand interbreeding.

by: JUDE_1:3

NOTICE at this juncture both of us stayed away from using inappropriate words that would possibly lead to insults.


BUT the guy can't hold it...no self control whatsoever...he starts to act funny...he decided to throw one cute pebble. this is what he(fingolfin) said...

.. that link is very funny. Cain had a child named Enoch, but who was the mother There was only one woman at that time and it was Eve.

.. and then you say that incest was still "legal" at those times, nyehehehehe... very very funny. oh damn, you're making your God one crazy god indeed. Your god has no foresight to the evolution of morals.

.. ok tirong, imagine making a baby with your mother ?? can you stomach it as my son always say when he sees something gross " eeeeeeeewwwwwwwwww "

So I decided to throw some pebbles too, here is what I said...

this kind of statement makes me wonder of the kind of bolts used in your brain( remember he calls god crazy ), it doesn't hold up.

how can you say that God has no foresight to the evolution of morals? so illogical and so uneducated remark coming from you.

first understand that God is the one who systematically formulated biblical morality, remember, he gave Moses the law forbidding incestuous relationship.

It was allowed during Adam's time for a specific purpose, to propagate human race, but I wouldn't call it incest because there was no law yet forbidding sexual union with your relatives.

Get this logic...the word incest means inappropriate intimacy or sexual intercourse between persons too closely related to marry legally.

My question then to you is, during Adam's period was there a law prohibiting them not to marry their relatives? SHOW ME A VERSE. if you have none... give yourself a study of the bible, it might do you some good . but to spare you the hard work, listen to me...IF there was no law then there was no concept of incest, no concept no idea, no law, no violation.

no law prohibiting anyone to walk across in middle of the traffic then no concept of Jaywalking, no law , no violation, you can freely walk anytime you like. No violation, no guilt.

hmmm, you don't like God but you love His law against incest. care to explain?

but I guess he doesn't like what I said about the bolts in his brain. so he gave me this...a PM in my inbox...let me quote this power tripper named fingolfin.

.. it's you who should be careful when treading here in istorya. please continue to send insults. please do. by: fingolfin



then he threat one forumer and me with this...@tirong, kindly don't do that kind of thing again, that sort of THIS IS MY FRIEND'S MESSAGE. Your friend obviously have some bad comments and personal attacks, continue to do so, and i'll ban you both. ok


this guy thinks that calling God crazy w/c is really intended to insult Christians is okay but when I started to question his sanity...he then sends threats. hahaha...what a bully...


Dude..if you don't like insults, don't make one. you're one funny dude.

[junmar4]

i don't find fingolfin's post offensive. but, i find yours offensive.

besides, you were not able to answer his question about the names and instead imo siya gitirahan for who you thought he is.

[JUDE_1:3]

i don't find fingolfin's post offensive. but, i find yours offensive.

besides, you were not able to answer his question about the names and instead imo siya gitirahan for who you thought he is.

that's because you are a friend of his and you are not reading. you are the chubby guy right?

[junmar4]

that's because you are a friend of his and you are not reading. you are the chubby guy right?

friend? yeah maybe. because i consider istoryans my friends. i did read it and understand, do you?

[JUDE_1:3]

i don't find fingolfin's post offensive. but, i find yours offensive.

besides, you were not able to answer his question about the names and instead imo siya gitirahan for who you thought he is.

I don't care if you don't find him offensive. It takes an honest man and ounce of integrity to see and call spades as spades.

and I don't mind too if you start to spin this whole situation around and blame it on me, this is so typical. what matter is the data, it shows who between us first used the word "crazy". now you can't deny that, and if this is a court battle your defense of your client is weak against my evidence.

by the way I did answer his questions.

[JUDE_1:3]

friend? yeah maybe. because i consider istoryans my friends. i did read it and understand, do you?

the question is do you? i have no plans of battling this out with you, im no street rat. where are you coming from? you're the chubby guy right?

[kit_cebu]

what a wuss...a sissy...

[necrotic freak]

this fingolfin guy is a typical pikon guy..

atheists are so amusing!

[juan_carlos]

@JUDE_1:3

while your indignation is semi-righteous, what you fail to realize is that you are completely wasting your time and effort on trying to argue with those who do not believe. you can talk their ears off and present evidence after evidence, proof after proof. and it will all be for nothing. remember, the natural man understands not the things of God and to him the preaching of the gospel is foolishness.

[fingolfin]

.. again, you people failed to read and understand the rules. To make it simple, attack the post not the poster. This isnt about religion but a matter of respect.

.. we revamped the rules in S&O so that insults and name throwing and personal attacks will be abolished.

.. as you can see with jude's comments to junmar

the question is do you? i have no plans of battling this out with you, im no street rat. where are you coming from? you're the chubby guy right?

.. is that what you call respect ??