Microsoft slashes licensing, software fees for iCafe sector

[Chipmunk888]

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ha? ipa windows 7 nila mga icafe? binuang ma ni. gas2 na pud na then luoya gud sa icafe daghan kaau kilid2 gani wla licenses sa permit ug windows xp pirated pa gigamit.

sure ko ani daghan gyud mag bagolbol kay kad2 naka windows xp home na before dili na magamit na.
paita sad ana nila oi...angay unta na padayon lang usa na.

unahon na ta na nila check kanang kilid2 diha sure man na cla wla license...if pasagdan nang mga kilid2 luoy kaau ang icafe dili mag dugay.

this is very true. piso-piso or sinko-sinko computer rentals which are using illegal/pirated xp are very rampant in the narrow and hidden areas in the city.


they are small illegal businesses but when added up, bigger than any huge legit company one can imagine.

[Chipmunk888]

Ang ipasabot ni Chipmunk888 BLUE ang Wallpaper...Dili katong BLUE screen of Death *BSoD

obviosly the BOSD is what i mean. it happened last meeting. and it is happening now even to new users with recent pc specifications;

http://commadot.com/windows-7-blue-screen-of-death/

Windows 7: The First Blue Screen - BusinessWeek

Windows 7 blue screen crash

Wala pud nag ingon ang microsoft na dili na pwede gamiton ang xp home sa net cafe. Ang ila ra concern kay dapat licensed ang OS

no, microsoft DID say that xp home is invalid ALREADY for internet cafe usage. it is instructed from the main microsoft headquarters, from the superiors as they said

If mopalit pud ta sa windows 7 naay option para mag DOWNGRADE to Windows XP PRO

my suggestion is to let the already complied users(legit xp home users) to have a different and fair offering like; swap their legit xp homes for even bigger discount(if they want money), or just retaining them and focus those who are not complied yet even with the xp home before(since there are huge numbers of using pirated xp now like the piso-piso computer rental which is vaster than a sari-sari store).

[Chipmunk888]

dli pwede ang xp home ky dli mn mbutangan cya ur rental rights...
mga pr0 ra ang mbutangan ug rental rights...
hehehehe....

this is what i was worried about before when my family bought legit xp home but no other choice since it's only what we can afford, and not the pro version.


if i remember, rental rights was implemented in the windows98 era, and was EVEN GRANTED to xp home oem in the early 2008. now they are changing it obviously to make money, its the nature of the business though. but they didn't see the situation of their clients(the end users) CLEARLY.


the clever point of their EULA is buying their operating systems does not mean that we are owning it already, in a nutshell, we are merely just renting it. thus, they can implement what they want. they are killing more the already killed internet cafe industry here in the poor Philippines. with their so-called promo/i-cafe program from them, it is not helping(obviously to already legit xp home users) but making them double dead. ONLY they are helping to those who DID NOT comply yet with legit operating systems.



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[Chipmunk888]

this is really not help to i-cafes as stated in the news, instead it's a kill. imagine they allowed xphome version before and no considerations to it now. their promo is good but it is a new investment; example if u have 20PCs so P45,980 + 19,980 for the ofc07 (that includes the rental rights perpetual but oem).
on the otherhand, this is a goodway of eradicating piracy but it comes with a price to legit operators.
"But i would just like to recommend a buy-in swap or buy to their program and swap our xphome version".

very true.

a buy-in swap is NOT even a fair option since xp home costs P4,000+ - P5,000+ while this windows7 is 2,999(promo). but since they are making money for their yearly inventory/reporting, youre right, a buy-in swap is a drastic option but still not a fair game.

indeed, they should be focusing more seriously on sorting out the vast numbers of illegal ones lurking in different areas in the city.

[netcommando]

microsoft also has legit reasons just to be fair due to 69% piracy rate in the phils. this s one way of documenting businesses that uses orig & w/ RRA since u have to submit some documents as requirements to avail the program.
What we just like to be considered is our orig xphome OS... it was purchased at 4k+ cold cash higher than the 2,299 win7 offered.
Now, to Microsoft: pls consider recalling our xphome orig OS in exchange w/ ur win7, you can ask additional reasonable amount from us (below the 2,299). "Just don't tell us that our existing xphome OS are now void". It hurts so much considering that i have 20 orig xphome licenses.! PLs lang! Huh!

[netcommando]

we will surely comply, what we want is just a consideration.

[Chipmunk888]

microsoft also has legit reasons just to be fair due to 69% piracy rate in the phils. this s one way of documenting businesses that uses orig & w/ RRA since u have to submit some documents as requirements to avail the program.
What we just like to be considered is our orig xphome OS... it was purchased at 4k+ cold cash higher than the 2,299 win7 offered.
Now, to Microsoft: pls consider recalling our xphome orig OS in exchange w/ ur win7, you can ask additional reasonable amount from us (below the 2,299). "Just don't tell us that our existing xphome OS are now void". It hurts so much considering that i have 20 orig xphome licenses.! PLs lang! Huh!

hahaha!^^ "it herts yo knaw" - manny pacquaio


seriously, yes, since they and the authorities didn't give a bigger effort in eradicating the pirated users specially now that still some internet cafes and the ever known piso-piso computer rental is getting bigger and bigger. i believe these greatly affect that percentage. they were only focusing to bigger fishes but seems they failed to understand that the smaller fishes are in larger number when added up.

[Mambazzoo]

microsoft also has legit reasons just to be fair due to 69% piracy rate in the phils. this s one way of documenting businesses that uses orig & w/ RRA since u have to submit some documents as requirements to avail the program.
What we just like to be considered is our orig xphome OS... it was purchased at 4k+ cold cash higher than the 2,299 win7 offered.
Now, to Microsoft: pls consider recalling our xphome orig OS in exchange w/ ur win7, you can ask additional reasonable amount from us (below the 2,299). "Just don't tell us that our existing xphome OS are now void". It hurts so much considering that i have 20 orig xphome licenses.! PLs lang! Huh!

mao bro, sakit kaayo na dako kaayo gasto...maayo mo consider lang sila sa mga legit windows xp home user nga ipadayon ug gamit.

kana tang mga kilid2 mao na cla angay papaliton sa windows 7.

[KizoneC]

dili kani mahimo wui unsa i pa switch na sad nila to windows7 unsa na lang tong gipamalit nga mga windows xp home ma void na lang to... unsalan pang warta nasad ning ilaha! tsk tsk mahulog og raid na sad ni to those who are not complying win7 requirements.?

[oisilener1982]

dili kani mahimo wui unsa i pa switch na sad nila to windows7 unsa na lang tong gipamalit nga mga windows xp home ma void na lang to... unsalan pang warta nasad ning ilaha! tsk tsk mahulog og raid na sad ni to those who are not complying win7 requirements.?

Dili compulsory mopalit ang naay previous agreement sa Microsoft. Mao ni ila official statement

4. Which applications are covered by the i-Café program? What happens if I have existing software license agreements?

The i-Café program covers Microsoft Office and Microsoft Windows 7, with the right to downgrade to Microsoft Windows XP.

Existing software license agreements for Microsoft Windows or Microsoft Office will be retained. Additional licenses should be purchased, as required. Microsoft Rental Rights Agreement should be purchased as well, as required by the promotion.