Why Is God Always Innocent?

[josephdc]

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whether believing in it or not doesn't nullify my explanation regarding blind faith...it is known even sa imoha..na i did not make up the story out of thin air..it is there in the bible and for me it is fitting nga diha ko mukuha ug evidence for blind faith..now whether i believe in it or not doesn't necessarily destroys the credibility of my example..

I didn't say you made up the story.

Okay, again let's suppose that the story of Abraham is really true: God exists and he commanded Abraham to sacrifice his son to test his faith. Abraham obeyed, knowing that he has good reasons for trusting in God, for it is God, after all, who is giving him the order. I don't think it's blind faith because his faith is based on the knowledge and experience of God. Therefore, his faith is reasonable.

mao gani na..blind faith..wla nai pangutana2x..mao btaw na akoang gihimo na qoute ganina...

"ayaw nlang pangutana gd..tuo nlang"

But it's God himself who is speaking to him, not just anyone.

good reasons?..or is it just blind faith and obedience..kai si lord man nisugo..thinking up of good reasons why i should trust his judgement even if it will cost me my life or the lives of the ones i love doesn't matter at all...bsta i'll do it..ana na style? mura diay military...follow first then ask questions after.

If it's God who is giving you the commandment, wouldn't you trust in him?

[Ramini]

well this is already a matter of interpretation..i say he has blind faith..if you're not buying it then it's fine with me..we all have our own opinions..it seems my examples weren't that convincing enough for as yours did to me..we'll just call it a day..perhaps next time nlang.

[josephdc]

it's kinda hard to explain the specifics im no big bang theory hardcore specialist..but unless if science found a way that god himself..the christian god has something to do with the big bang directly then diha nko mutuo..all i can see is that you're theorizing that the bible does support the big bang by connecting the first few lines of genesis to the big bang theory..without any elaborations..i respect that opinion of yours pero in my books it doesn't hold water at all..sorry

But you do agree that the Big Bang model points to an absolute beginning right?

[Ramini]

But you do agree that the Big Bang model points to an absolute beginning right?

it's just a theory subject to change..dli pa sure..if dli pa sila sure then i am not sure

[josephdc]

well this is already a matter of interpretation..i say he has blind faith..if you're not buying it then it's fine with me..we all have our own opinions..it seems my examples weren't that convincing enough for as yours did to me..we'll just call it a day..perhaps next time nlang.

No problem bro.

Yes, it seems to me that Abraham's faith was not blind at all because it was based on his experience and encounter with God. It would be blind if it had no basis whatsoever. So I can't see why that would be blind faith.

Also, I don't think that that would be enough to support your claim that religion is based on blind faith because religion is a huge topic. You'd have to give more reasons I think to show why religion is merely blind faith.

[Ramini]

well cguro...then there's herd mentality pa which is most rampant karn...oh yeah..i'd like to point out diay..i was only referring to christian religion..thus the bible example.

[josephdc]

it's just a theory subject to change..dli pa sure..if dli pa sila sure then i am not sure

Well, it's just a theory, sure, but it's supported by scientific evidences, so it's a pretty good theory, don't you think?

What other models out there do you think are good candidates to replace the standard model?

[josephdc]

well cguro...then there's herd mentality pa which is most rampant karn...oh yeah..i'd like to point out diay..i was only referring to christian religion..thus the bible example.

What do you mean by that and why do you say that that shows that religion is blind faith?

[Ramini]

im not the right guy to ask those things..im not well versed in those stuff..im still in the process digesting stuff..and when it comes to space and wla nako ana..evolution is convoluted enough to fathom..hasta nang mga big bang theory..adto lang sa science section or si rodion ana kabaw..one thing is clear to me..if there's a god im sure it's not an anthropomorphic god nor the god of the christians

[josephdc]

im not the right guy to ask those things..im not well versed in those stuff..im still in the process digesting stuff..and when it comes to space and wla nako ana..evolution is convoluted enough to fathom..hasta nang mga big bang theory..adto lang sa science section or si rodion ana kabaw..

Okay bro.

one thing is clear to me..if there's a god im sure it's not an anthropomorphic god nor the god of the christians

What makes you so sure of that though bro?