All Religion leads to God:maybe? Yes? No?

[kebot]

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i think you still don't get it..

i don't equate religion nor god as the cat but rather the cat is just a tool an example for you to think what would you do when you are given all the raw materials/requirements.. would you do it for salvation or damnation..

there are only two religions in the world for me the religion that follows the Devil and the religion that follows God.. you have all the rights to chose and that is what they called free will the only gift of God that he promised to every man..

so tell me bro kebs will you be saved if you chose the religion who worship Allah?..

You kill the Cat.
You worship God.

the tool here is: KILL / WORSHIP

So?

kebs will you be saved if you chose the religion who worship Allah?
--- its not upto me to decide or else ill put us all in HELL.
--- let me capitalize your question.
according to muslim christians will burn in hell.
according to christians, Jesus saves you. It is up to you to accept that salvation.

Again tell me, are we talking the same God Here?

there are only two religions in the world for me the religion that follows the Devil and the religion that follows God..
--- some religion said you are God. So which religion do they belong?
--- it is like saying:
We can only see Dark and Light. Yellow is Light, gray is Dark. lols! The thing brad is this, The color is not the problem... but comprehension.

[dartzed]

You kill the Cat.
You worship God.

the tool here is: KILL / WORSHIP

So?

kebs will you be saved if you chose the religion who worship Allah?
--- its not upto me to decide or else ill put us all in HELL.
--- let me capitalize your question.
according to muslim christians will burn in hell.
according to christians, Jesus saves you. It is up to you to accept that salvation.

well did the muslim religion said to their followers that they won't be saved then?..
you know religion esp kani sa side sa God has their problem and that's doctrinal racism.. yet all of them has one goal spread LOVE and PEACE.

if you can't decide then how will you know that a religion is not a Good religion?..

Again tell me, are we talking the same God Here?

yes absolutely, the same God there is only one God right?..

there are only two religions in the world for me the religion that follows the Devil and the religion that follows God..
--- some religion said you are God. So which religion do they belong?
--- it is like saying:
We can only see Dark and Light. Yellow is Light, gray is Dark. lols! The thing brad is this, The color is not the problem... but comprehension.

"you are god" hmmmmm are we not then?.. aren't we holy each one of us according to the bible?..
"but comprehension" so para nimo sayop ba kung magmuslim tah?..

[kebot]

well did the muslim religion said to their followers that they won't be saved then?..
you know religion esp kani sa side sa God has their problem and that's doctrinal racism.. yet all of them has one goal spread LOVE and PEACE.

if you can't decide then how will you know that a religion is not a Good religion?..



yes absolutely, the same God there is only one God right?..



"you are god" hmmmmm are we not then?.. aren't we holy each one of us according to the bible?..
"but comprehension" so para nimo sayop ba kung magmuslim tah?..

you know religion esp kani sa side sa God has their problem and that's doctrinal racism..
--- christianity dont have a problem with it...does it?

yes absolutely, the same God there is only one God right?..
--- lols, no contest. Its not my obligation to tell you the difference. Still you think they are... well, gud luck.

"you are god" hmmmmm are we not then?.. aren't we holy each one of us according to the bible?
--- no, bible said we are sinners. that is the objective, to be holy as Christ. In later part when you go to heaven, you will judge angels, but before that... it is a personal race to be as holy...

"but comprehension" so para nimo sayop ba kung magmuslim tah?
--- that is why you cannot serve two masters at the same time. We see them as totally different God, but you dont. Sorry Dart we cant serve Christ and Allah at the same time.

according to muslim christians will burn in hell.
according to christians, Jesus saves you. It is up to you to accept that salvation.

how can we comply on this? I am a christian and now I become muslim serving my christ. So? Do you still think they are the same?

[dartzed]

you know religion esp kani sa side sa God has their problem and that's doctrinal racism..
--- christianity dont have a problem with it...does it?

don't they?..hahaha ex. ADD and INC..etc..

yes absolutely, the same God there is only one God right?..
--- lols, no contest. Its not my obligation to tell you the difference. Still you think they are... well, gud luck.

so who's obligation is it if walay responsible musulti?..

"you are god" hmmmmm are we not then?.. aren't we holy each one of us according to the bible?
--- no, bible said we are sinners. that is the objective, to be holy as Christ. In later part when you go to heaven, you will judge angels, but before that... it is a personal race to be as holy...

YES, as well as we are holy again when we 1st have our baptism and we are holy after we are cleansed with our sin during confession.. one of the requirement of being a god..

thus from the Bible "Lord of all lords" and "King of all kings" that is God not us..

you know religion esp kani sa side sa God has their problem and that's doctrinal racism..
--- christianity dont have a problem with it...does it?

don't they?..hahaha ex. ADD and INC..etc.. and don't tell me you have nothing to do with them coz they are your brothers in christ too..

yes absolutely, the same God there is only one God right?..
--- lols, no contest. Its not my obligation to tell you the difference. Still you think they are... well, gud luck.

so who's obligation is it if walay responsible musulti?..

"but comprehension" so para nimo sayop ba kung magmuslim tah?
--- that is why you cannot serve two masters at the same time. We see them as totally different God, but you dont. Sorry Dart we cant serve Christ and Allah at the same time.

according to muslim christians will burn in hell.
according to christians, Jesus saves you. It is up to you to accept that salvation.

how can we comply on this? I am a christian and now I become muslim serving my christ. So? Do you still think they are the same?

that's why im asking you if it is sayop if magmuslim tah?.. muingon gani ug mag muslim tah pasabot d nka christian..

[Malic]

According to Muslim scholars, the Hebrew priesthood corrupted the scriptures of Moses
--- your witness must be a disinterester person or group. sorry malic, your witness is serving thier own purpose. How can you present a witness who is also the subject. How come your scholars said its corrupted, your KORAN IS WRITTEN AD, the event is BC there is a thousand years gap and YET YOUR WITNESS WITNESS THE CORRUPTION. Do you still believe malic? thats what you call FAITH.

Im sorry too kebot,but your answers lacks substantial points, thats maybe bcos you have zero education in Basic systematic theology, Old and New Testament survey and Bible criticism. my suggestion is go and study para naa kay idea kong nganong makasulti ang tao nga nganong corrupted ang Jewish scriptures kay when it comes to serious arguments, google can't really help you and personal assessment w/o proper basic background of the subject is self-destructive . I pity your counter points, too simple and naive,no offense, dili na lang ko mohatag og counter points sa imong gi posts diri kay if feels like im talking chemistry to a grader. so taxing.


Thus the claim that Allah in Arabic and Eli in Aramaic(arabic and aramaic and even hebrew are cousin tongues, even Allah and Eli does have a similar sound
--- see master jesus, it sound very the same... point is, it doesn't matter how it sound. you have to examine the quality and attributes, based on thier patterns.

haha, too naive indeed. It does matter according to people who studies language, pero for someone who has zero education on linguistics its understandable kong nganong they find it irrelevant.

see I end up educating you about some stuff. and this is very taxing on my part
--- lols did u? hmmm! so do we need to pay for you?

its free.

kebot I will leave you here, cos I find your way very taxing, imo ra man ibalik akong mga ponto nga gipangsulti.
--- yes i affirm, i just explain the part of christianity. I did not contradict. Is affirming wrong? Lols malic, What i did tell you is that Christ came as the continuation of Gods work. It was the father who establish that religion...
--- again whats wrong?

you can't even read.

this ends here kebot, sigoro we can talk of something else, ayaw lang ng something that requires basic education sa Bible Studies and christian doctrines kay di ta mag abot.

[kebot]

this ends here kebot, sigoro we can talk of something else, ayaw lang ng something that requires basic education sa Bible Studies and christian doctrines kay di ta mag abot.

thats maybe bcos you have zero education in Basic systematic theology
"According to Muslim scholars"
--- lols, wana out of context na... pft!
--- what i have told you is that your witness are the suspects... and you present them as ACCORDING TO THEM... lols Ok kalang malic?


haha, too naive indeed. It does matter according to people who studies language, pero for someone who has zero education on linguistics its understandable kong nganong they find it irrelevant.
"even Allah and Eli does have a similar sound"
--- waaa bantug ang ELI og ALLAH almost sounds the same, could mean the same thing... pagka! hahaha! naunsa nani oi!

[kebot]

don't they?..hahaha ex. ADD and INC..etc..
--- according to christianity brad "love one another man", "no religion will save you"
--- i dont know about ADD or INC if they can support thier claims.


so who's obligation is it if walay responsible musulti?..
--- sorry dart i have given you an analogy they are different, but you still see the same thing. Must be my analogy is wrong... Sorry i cannot find another analogy to help you.


YES, as well as we are holy again when we 1st have our baptism and we are holy after we are cleansed with our sin during confession.. one of the requirement of being a god..
--- is that a fact, any support for this claim?

thus from the Bible "Lord of all lords" and "King of all kings" that is God not us..
--- yes, but you have to understand that we can be lords and we can be kings when we are in heaven. We are not in heaven yet. Hopefully we will be.


don't they?..hahaha ex. ADD and INC..etc.. and don't tell me you have nothing to do with them coz they are your brothers in christ too..
--- many will call the name of the lord and he said DEPART FROM ME I NEVER KNEW YOU!




that's why im asking you if it is sayop if magmuslim tah?.. muingon gani ug mag muslim tah pasabot d nka christian..
---- yea, that is why allah and christ are two different God. They are not the same. If you tell me if sayop ba? you can try, i cannot answer you... but of course you got to choose because they are different right?

[Malic]

thats maybe bcos you have zero education in Basic systematic theology
"According to Muslim scholars"
--- lols, wana out of context na... pft!
--- what i have told you is that your witness are the suspects... and you present them as ACCORDING TO THEM... lols Ok kalang malic?

ok ra kaayo ko. I can understand why you think my points are out of context. Zero knowledge of any studies relating to bible history and criticism can be very devastating, it exposes the ignorance of the pretender. for your information Muslim scholars have access to old Jewish manuscripts. and for your information again, Jewish Religious manuscripts have variations and numbers quite substantially, its like the bible naay catholic w/c include the deutero canonical and Protestant versions.

look at your arguments its not moving, it got stuck sa-witness are the suspects, you can't even qualify it effectively.

What method did they use to determine the authenticity of certain manuscripts? Well, the same thing historians would use to determine the flaws of historical documents/ manuscripts. Mao bitaw ng na expose ang mga inconsistencies sa bible to which bible scholars agree nga naay certain percent nga inconsistent ang bible. now you wouldn't know that di ba bcos you are not, again, taught about these things.



haha, too naive indeed. It does matter according to people who studies language, pero for someone who has zero education on linguistics its understandable kong nganong they find it irrelevant.
"even Allah and Eli does have a similar sound"
--- waaa bantug ang ELI og ALLAH almost sounds the same, could mean the same thing... pagka! hahaha! naunsa nani oi

For your information, Eli was use by Jesus at the cross when he calls his father Eli eli lama sabacthani translated as My God my god why has thou forsaken me. Now compare it sa name Allah w/c means God.

so does it mean the same thing? YES, both means God.

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I think nakahatag nako og mga clarifications so kebot again I will come back to you kong tan-aw nako mag abot atong discussion. sorry guys(readers) I have to say this ha, this may sound nga hambog but i have to say this to kebot. Maybe there are some topic nga puede ta mag abot, but kini di ta mag abot, why? ako naa koy gamay nga knowledge about things related sa bible nya ikaw wala , look at your counter arguments, no substantial points whatsoever, ga balik balik lang. Thats because zero imong knowledge sa subject mao ng mo resort na lang ka og tira sa mga ponto nga not related sa main issue. nya balik balik pod ang arguments.

[dartzed]

don't they?..hahaha ex. ADD and INC..etc..
--- according to christianity brad "love one another man", "no religion will save you"
--- i dont know about ADD or INC if they can support thier claims.

but they're your brothers/sisters in Christ too you should have known, thus "love your neighbor" and not "abandon them"..

so who's obligation is it if walay responsible musulti?..
--- sorry dart i have given you an analogy they are different, but you still see the same thing. Must be my analogy is wrong... Sorry i cannot find another analogy to help you.

hmmmmm i didn't expect that, that was not quite so Christian of you.. but that's fine it's your opinion i can't change that..

YES, as well as we are holy again when we 1st have our baptism and we are holy after we are cleansed with our sin during confession.. one of the requirement of being a god..
--- is that a fact, any support for this claim?

well your bible can tell it very clear though..

thus from the Bible "Lord of all lords" and "King of all kings" that is God not us..
--- yes, but you have to understand that we can be lords and we can be kings when we are in heaven. We are not in heaven yet. Hopefully we will be.

aw padung raman japon ta ana bro still we have the potential nara jud nas tao unsa iya gusto..

don't they?..hahaha ex. ADD and INC..etc.. and don't tell me you have nothing to do with them coz they are your brothers in christ too..
--- many will call the name of the lord and he said DEPART FROM ME I NEVER KNEW YOU!

hmmmm thats too bad they didn't but they made another group with the same God as your though they lack somethings.. but still they worshiped your God also..

that's why im asking you if it is sayop if magmuslim tah?.. muingon gani ug mag muslim tah pasabot d nka christian..
---- yea, that is why allah and christ are two different God. They are not the same. If you tell me if sayop ba? you can try, i cannot answer you... but of course you got to choose because they are different right?

hmmmmmm in what way would they differ, if you don't mind?.. i think you know something i might not know..

[kebot]

I think nakahatag nako og mga clarifications so kebot again I will come back to you kong tan-aw nako mag abot atong discussion. sorry guys(readers) I have to say this ha, this may sound nga hambog but i have to say this to kebot. Maybe there are some topic nga puede ta mag abot, but kini di ta mag abot, why? ako naa koy gamay nga knowledge about things related sa bible nya ikaw wala , look at your counter arguments, no substantial points whatsoever, ga balik balik lang. Thats because zero imong knowledge sa subject mao ng mo resort na lang ka og tira sa mga ponto nga not related sa main issue. nya balik balik pod ang arguments.

Mao bitaw ng na expose ang mga inconsistencies sa bible to which bible scholars agree nga naay certain percent nga inconsistent ang bible.
--- wow! hahaha! malic i accept there are things we cannot fully comprehend or understand... but it does not mean its inconsistent... we just lack the capacity to verify that. lols!

--- so tungod kay naay nakit-an ang mga muslim na inconsistent, ga himo cla og ilang relihiyon? ok... nano mo ingon man ang muslim si ADAN ang first muslim. Gi rephrase na cya malic? para ma inyo si adan.. hahaha! kabalu ka when it was changed? i think 600AD. tungaw ngaw ngaw! Malic I don't care unsa si adan... pero mo ingon ka muslim cya! nah hala bsin arabo pod si adan ok ra malic. no contes ko ani... inyo pod na... hehehe ka alegre!

For your information, Eli was use by Jesus at the cross when he calls his father Eli eli lama sabacthani translated as My God my god why has thou forsaken me. Now compare it sa name Allah w/c means God.
--- cge malic kung sak2 ka... muslim diay to si Christ? hala! ad2 sa malaysia ha... ingna imo mga igso na si christo muslim, kay ni ingon cya ALLAh/ELI... kabalu ka unsay problema sa malaysia ron? gus2 sa mga muslim ang pangalan ALLAH sa muslim ra, karon ingon ka apil si kristo ni tawag ni ALLAH. Maayong laki pa diay ka sa Muslim scholars sa Malaysia malic.

Malic i urge u to go, help our brethren there to stop the church violence for God sake. Help them understand. Malic I beg you! Bsin diay mo 2o cla nmo, dako paka mahimo. But if naa raka diri nya ga pataka rag yawit... lols! Asa na gani imo gipanghinambog "Zero knowledge of any studies relating to bible history and criticism"

Your time to shine and to change a nation malic. Ill be looking forward to see you change a nation... I will pray for you malic if you do so...

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