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  1. #21

    Quote Originally Posted by Gotterdammerung.2 View Post
    don't waste your time. this Eli cannot be trusted. A fugitive will teach us about living for God? hahahahahahaha.

    what can a fugitive teach us really? how to hide and keep yourself invisible? lols. seriously, what can a fugitive teach us?

    he lacks the integrity of a good pastor. look at all his flocks, tho not all but majority of them are simple minded.
    ipangutana daw na ni bro eli sa iyang twitter account...diay site oh Brother Eli Soriano (BroEliSoriano) on Twitter

    or pagpost daw sa chat box diri kanang imong gisulti...Bro. Eli Soriano: The Truthcaster on Justin.tv

    nagpost nako didto huwaton taka...may guts kaha kang isulti na?

  2. #22
    Quote Originally Posted by NASYO View Post
    hahaha. mangutana ko'g asa cya nagtago? tubagon kaha ko niya? ahehehe
    hatagan pa ka'g bersikolo ana. bwahehehe.

    tarong dha pein oi. ayaw tawn patunto. dako na ka.
    hadlok ka mangutana? ikaw diay ang bayot...mangutana ra hadlok...

  3. #23
    DOJ charges evangelist Ely Soriano with rape



    The Department of Justice (DOJ) on Wednesday filed two counts of rape against Ang Dating Daan (ADD) leader Eliseo “Ely" Soriano before the Pampanga regional trial court (RTC) for allegedly sodomizing a male ex-member of the Christian evangelical group.
    The charges against Soriano stemmed from the complaint filed by Daniel Veridiano, former assistant general secretary of the ADD Church.

    In his counter-affidavit, Soriano described Veridiano’s accusations as “fabricated, baseless and malicious."

    Soriano said that contrary to Veridiano’s claims, the latter did not become an assistant secretary general of the ADD.

    Pampanga acting Provincial Prosecutor Jaime Umpa recommended a total of P400,000 (or P200,000 for each count) bail for the temporary liberty of Soriano.

    Veridiano said that as ADD’s assistant general secretary, he was entrusted with various tasks that included filing important ADD documents and Soriano’s personal facsimiles.

    Veridiano claimed that Soriano asked him to join ADD in 1998 in Apalit, Pampanga where he stayed at the ADD convention center.

    The complainant said that at about 1:30 p.m. on May 17, 2000, Soriano summoned him to his room where the alleged rape took place.

    On June 8, 2001, Soriano again summoned Veridiano to his room where he was again ordered to do what he did on May 17, 2000.

    Veridiano also accused Soriano of doing the same lascivious acts to the other workers of ADD.

    Veridiano said he obeyed everything that Soriano ordered him to do because he believed that Soriano is God’s messenger and therefore all his orders must be obeyed.

    He believed that the lascivious acts that Soriano asked him and the other ADD members to do were manifestations of their love for him.

    Prosecutor Umpa said that Veridiano mustered the courage to expose the sexual abuses committed against him by the respondent because he is already free from his clout and is no longer under his influence.


    read more...DOJ charges evangelist Ely Soriano with rape - Nation - GMANews.TV - Official Website of GMA News and Public Affairs - Latest Philippine News


    After a careful evaluation of the evidence submitted by the two parties, the undersigned finds that probable cause exists to hold respondent for two counts of rape. The defense of respondent which consists of alibi and denial cannot overcome the positive assertions of the complainant" Umpa said.

    Umpa cited that jurisprudence consistently holds that alibi(of Eli) is generally considered a weak defense because of the facility with which it can be fabricated.

    Umpa said that all the elements of rape under the second paragraph of Art. 226-A of the Revised Penal Code, as amended by Republic Act 8353 are present in the two incidents as alleged by the complainant.

    “While it does not appear that respondent employed force, threat or intimidation, he exercised moral ascendancy over the complainant. Moral ascendancy or influence exercised by the accused over the victim substitutes for the element of physical force or intimidation in cases of rape, and it may be added, acts of lasciviousness. The crime is aggravated by the fact that the victim, herein complainant, is a religious engaged in legitimate religious vocation or calling and is personally known to be such by the offender, respondent herein, at the time of the commission of the crime" Umpa said.

    “Wherefore, in view of the foregoing, let an information for rape (2 counts) under second paragraph of Art. 266-A of the Revised Penal Code, as amended by RA 8353, be filed in court against respondent Eliseo Soriano" Umpa said.-GMANews.TV

  4. #24
    Quote Originally Posted by Pein View Post
    ipangutana daw na ni bro eli sa iyang twitter account...diay site oh Brother Eli Soriano (BroEliSoriano) on Twitter

    or pagpost daw sa chat box diri kanang imong gisulti...Bro. Eli Soriano: The Truthcaster on Justin.tv

    nagpost nako didto huwaton taka...may guts kaha kang isulti na?

    ah sayon ra pag sulti, ang pangutana naa bay guts si Eli.

  5. #25
    Quote Originally Posted by Gotterdammerung.2 View Post
    DOJ charges evangelist Ely Soriano with rape



    The Department of Justice (DOJ) on Wednesday filed two counts of rape against Ang Dating Daan (ADD) leader Eliseo “Ely" Soriano before the Pampanga regional trial court (RTC) for allegedly sodomizing a male ex-member of the Christian evangelical group.
    The charges against Soriano stemmed from the complaint filed by Daniel Veridiano, former assistant general secretary of the ADD Church.

    In his counter-affidavit, Soriano described Veridiano’s accusations as “fabricated, baseless and malicious."

    Soriano said that contrary to Veridiano’s claims, the latter did not become an assistant secretary general of the ADD.

    Pampanga acting Provincial Prosecutor Jaime Umpa recommended a total of P400,000 (or P200,000 for each count) bail for the temporary liberty of Soriano.

    Veridiano said that as ADD’s assistant general secretary, he was entrusted with various tasks that included filing important ADD documents and Soriano’s personal facsimiles.

    Veridiano claimed that Soriano asked him to join ADD in 1998 in Apalit, Pampanga where he stayed at the ADD convention center.

    The complainant said that at about 1:30 p.m. on May 17, 2000, Soriano summoned him to his room where the alleged rape took place.

    On June 8, 2001, Soriano again summoned Veridiano to his room where he was again ordered to do what he did on May 17, 2000.

    Veridiano also accused Soriano of doing the same lascivious acts to the other workers of ADD.

    Veridiano said he obeyed everything that Soriano ordered him to do because he believed that Soriano is God’s messenger and therefore all his orders must be obeyed.

    He believed that the lascivious acts that Soriano asked him and the other ADD members to do were manifestations of their love for him.

    Prosecutor Umpa said that Veridiano mustered the courage to expose the sexual abuses committed against him by the respondent because he is already free from his clout and is no longer under his influence.


    read more...DOJ charges evangelist Ely Soriano with rape - Nation - GMANews.TV - Official Website of GMA News and Public Affairs - Latest Philippine News


    After a careful evaluation of the evidence submitted by the two parties, the undersigned finds that probable cause exists to hold respondent for two counts of rape. The defense of respondent which consists of alibi and denial cannot overcome the positive assertions of the complainant" Umpa said.

    Umpa cited that jurisprudence consistently holds that alibi is generally considered a weak defense because of the facility with which it can be fabricated.

    Umpa said that all the elements of rape under the second paragraph of Art. 226-A of the Revised Penal Code, as amended by Republic Act 8353 are present in the two incidents as alleged by the complainant.

    “While it does not appear that respondent employed force, threat or intimidation, he exercised moral ascendancy over the complainant. Moral ascendancy or influence exercised by the accused over the victim substitutes for the element of physical force or intimidation in cases of rape, and it may be added, acts of lasciviousness. The crime is aggravated by the fact that the victim, herein complainant, is a religious engaged in legitimate religious vocation or calling and is personally known to be such by the offender, respondent herein, at the time of the commission of the crime" Umpa said.

    “Wherefore, in view of the foregoing, let an information for rape (2 counts) under second paragraph of Art. 266-A of the Revised Penal Code, as amended by RA 8353, be filed in court against respondent Eliseo Soriano" Umpa said.-GMANews.TV
    Puto knew that the INC had over the years been filing case after case against Bro. Eli from libel to frustrated murder to obstruction of justice and others. With Puto going to the INC, the rape case saw many allies lining up to defend him including the Secretary of Justice Raul Gonzalez who had re-filed the case after it was dismissed for lack of evidence. From somebody then cast out by the Church of God for filth – physical and spiritual – he becomes the man of the hour who crucifies his benefactor.

    Thank you for the sorrows – Preacher in exile Less Traveled Road

    na dismissed na intawn na nga kaso oi tungod ka kakuwang sa ebidensya, pero gi refile ni Sec siRaulo Gonzalez through the influence of the INC...

    get your facts straight brad...

  6. #26
    Quote Originally Posted by Gotterdammerung.2 View Post
    ah sayon ra pag sulti, ang pangutana naa bay guts si Eli.
    ipangutana na beh...naa kaha kay guts mangutana ana? or kutob raka diri...ikaw diay ang bayot...

  7. #27
    Quote Originally Posted by Pein View Post
    Puto knew that the INC had over the years been filing case after case against Bro. Eli from libel to frustrated murder to obstruction of justice and others. With Puto going to the INC, the rape case saw many allies lining up to defend him including the Secretary of Justice Raul Gonzalez who had re-filed the case after it was dismissed for lack of evidence. From somebody then cast out by the Church of God for filth – physical and spiritual – he becomes the man of the hour who crucifies his benefactor.

    Thank you for the sorrows – Preacher in exile Less Traveled Road

    na dismissed na intawn na nga kaso oi tungod ka kakuwang sa ebidensya, pero gi refile ni Sec siRaulo Gonzalez through the influence of the INC...

    get your facts straight brad...
    then why is he hiding? of course Puto would look for stronger Allies for lack of resources.

    my facts are straight, im not the one in hiding.

  8. #28
    pero Pein.. mao nang imong gi ingon nga SUGO nga naay kasong ingon ana? rape? hahaha..

    yes, kuwang evidence, pero naay evidence, gi kuwangan lang ...

    Pein, ngano nagpa member ka ana sa iya? did you feel the power of God?

    @Gotterdammerung.2
    --sakto..ngano mo tago man xa kung innocente man diay xa.. si ampatuan man gani ni atubang bsag klarong siya... daghan kau ebidenxa..tapos kung kang Eli KUWANG. wa man lagi atubang noh? how can he stand up for his FAITH TO GOD when he cant even stand up for his self..hahaha....
    Last edited by tamse; 01-04-2010 at 10:44 AM.

  9. #29
    Quote Originally Posted by Pein View Post
    ipangutana na beh...naa kaha kay guts mangutana ana? or kutob raka diri...ikaw diay ang bayot...
    sus ipatubang ng imong eli kay ako ng ipapangutana. lahi ng makita nimo sa personal inig pangutana kay ma klaro nato ang iyang defense mechanism kaysa diha ra sa telecast.

    accused of sodomizing his male staff, bantog ra wa ni ma minyo.

  10. #30
    Quote Originally Posted by tamse View Post
    pero Pein.. mao nang imong gi ingon nga SUGO nga naay kasong ingon ana? rape? hahaha..

    yes, kuwang evidence, pero naay evidence, gi kuwangan lang ...

    Pein, ngano nagpa member ka ana sa iya? did you feel the power of God?
    Sugo man kaha siya sa Diyos unsa may angay kahadlokan? kong tinood man gani siya nga adonay kahadlok sa Ginoo kinahanglan mo sobay siya sa GUIDELINES sa balaod kay ingon man ang bibliya diha sa roma nga ang LAW of the LAnd angay sundon. NOW in the course of defending his innocence nasayop pag hatag sa verdict ang judge, aw iya gihapon ng atobangon and take it as a test from God.

    Kato bitaw si Joseph gi akosahan man to og rape nya na priso, wa man to nitago tago, gi atubang man niya ang kaso. kato pod mga apostoles ni kristo, gi akosahan og gibutang butangan apan gi atibang gihapon nila angi lang kaso. mao nay sakto nga Tao sa Ginoo, dili sama anang imong eli nga motago sa balaod.

    @Gotterdammerung.2
    --sakto..ngano mo tago man xa kung innocente man diay xa.. si ampatuan man gani ni atubang bsag klarong siya... daghan kau ebidenxa..tapos kung kung kang Eli KUWANG. wa man lagi atubang noh?

    mao jud, guilty man na basta ingon ana.

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