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    weee grabeha oh... murag walay lain choice kunohay ang taw.. adto jud sa walay agi.... weeeee.. good governance, sa walay agi sa pang gobyerno... same old trapos who says they will eliminate corruption and try to look good.. everything a politician does reflects in his track record... noynoy was never a fiscalizer, he was'nt even able to uphold justice for the luisita farmersa and even for those who really needs justice... we don't hear him before just until now, when he is politically packaged to look good, he is just real incompetent...
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    Quote Originally Posted by surikbots View Post
    I beg to disagree. With an honest government in place, there will be improve investor confidence in the country.
    An honest government therefore will improve investor and business climate. There will be a general feeling of confidence that everything will be done in equal footing. No sacred cows, no favored cronies for example.
    An honest government will lead to lesser corruption. Lesser corruption means investor friendly.
    Without Noynoy, who will you vote for to be less corrupt.
    naa ba capability c noy2x nga motawag ug investors??
    if naa please post example

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    Noynoy..probably because i think he has a more active conscience than his counterparts so, with that, makonsenya na siya mangurakot...although di jud na mahimo ug dili, he's least likely to be corrupt...
    i can't rank no. 2 and 3..
    but i'll prolly won't be voting for Noy..

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    Quote Originally Posted by surikbots View Post
    I beg to disagree. With an honest government in place, there will be improve investor confidence in the country.

    An honest government therefore will improve investor and business climate. There will be a general feeling of confidence that everything will be done in equal footing. No sacred cows, no favored cronies for example.

    An honest government will lead to lesser corruption. Lesser corruption means investor friendly.

    Without Noynoy, who will you vote for to be less corrupt.

    Manny Villar was caught lying through his teeth about the subdivisions he owned where the C-5 road extension traversed.

    Erap Estrada, has been proven as a President. We need a better one.

    Gibo Teodoro, he is simply a tuta of GMA.

    Richard Gordon, he may be good, but does he represent good governance?
    what made you sure nga kung si noy2x na ang ma president ky ma wala na ang corruption? honest government? atong ibutang nga honest c noy2x but the government? ngek!

    let's just see kng ma priso ba tanang corrupt officials kng cya na ang mka lingkod. dili lng sa ta mag-una ky murag bati ra ba jd ng mg-expect ta. basin ma disappoint ra ta in the end...

    kinsa gani ang mga tao nga nagpa luyo ni noy2x?

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    Quote Originally Posted by maddox_pitt View Post
    Noynoy..probably because i think he has a more active conscience than his counterparts so, with that, makonsenya na siya mangurakot...although di jud na mahimo ug dili, he's least likely to be corrupt...
    i can't rank no. 2 and 3..
    but i'll prolly won't be voting for Noy..
    atong ibutang nga c noy2x ky dali ra ma consenxa mao ng less iyang tendency pra mangurakot... but the question here is, kanang mga officials nga kurakot dinha, iya kahang ma imprisoned kng cya na ang ma president? mo pareha kaha ni noy2x ang tanang mga officials sa pinas... kanang more active ang conscience?

    kinsa gani ang mga tao nga nagpa luyo ni noy2x?

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    Quote Originally Posted by peewee_toot View Post
    what made you sure nga kung si noy2x na ang ma president ky ma wala na ang corruption? honest government? atong ibutang nga honest c noy2x but the government? ngek!

    let's just see kng ma priso ba tanang corrupt officials kng cya na ang mka lingkod. dili lng sa ta mag-una ky murag bati ra ba jd ng mg-expect ta. basin ma disappoint ra ta in the end...

    kinsa gani ang mga tao nga nagpa luyo ni noy2x?
    Asking corruption to be totally gone during Aquino's term is asking for the impossible. But what I can be sure of is that the corruption will not be initiated by the leader himself unlike today when the President herself is embroiled in the shenanigans of the government.

    We have rampant corruption today because what everyone else saw was that the President is leading it.

    Now cite me the people around Noynoy whom you perceive to be corrupt and please cite specific examples of the corruption scandal he or she is involved in. For example, GMA-NBN ZTE.

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    Quote Originally Posted by surikbots View Post
    Asking corruption to be totally gone during Aquino's term is asking for the impossible. But what I can be sure of is that the corruption will not be initiated by the leader himself unlike today when the President herself is embroiled in the shenanigans of the government.

    We have rampant corruption today because what everyone else saw was that the President is leading it.

    Now cite me the people around Noynoy whom you perceive to be corrupt and please cite specific examples of the corruption scandal he or she is involved in. For example, GMA-NBN ZTE.
    i guess the change that you are referring is not the entire change that we are yearning. if you really want change, why does it only involve the president? dapat tanan unta.

    do you really think mo sunod tanang officials sa example nga gipakita ni noy2x? do you really think nga mga priso tanang kurakot sa pinas?

    tabla ra kag ni ingon nga imposible kaayu nga naay change kung ing ana mn d i...

    about your last statement, i was asking kung si kinsa ang mga tao nga nagpa luyo ni noy2x. i was not stating nga mga kurakot pd na sila. mao bitaw ni ask ko kng si kinsa sila ky wala ko kaila ana nila. i want an answer to my previous question... kinsa ang mga tao nga nagpa luyo ni noy2x?

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    Quote Originally Posted by surikbots View Post
    Asking corruption to be totally gone during Aquino's term is asking for the impossible. But what I can be sure of is that the corruption will not be initiated by the leader himself unlike today when the President herself is embroiled in the shenanigans of the government.

    We have rampant corruption today because what everyone else saw was that the President is leading it.

    Now cite me the people around Noynoy whom you perceive to be corrupt and please cite specific examples of the corruption scandal he or she is involved in. For example, GMA-NBN ZTE.
    no action = no sin

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    Quote Originally Posted by surikbots View Post
    I beg to disagree. With an honest government in place, there will be improve investor confidence in the country.

    An honest government therefore will improve investor and business climate. There will be a general feeling of confidence that everything will be done in equal footing. No sacred cows, no favored cronies for example.

    An honest government will lead to lesser corruption. Lesser corruption means investor friendly.
    sis, happy new year!
    this my opinion lang ha if i beg to disagree with you...
    i think having an honest government is a hindrance to progress..
    why?this is the reality..
    kung honest ato government, willing ba mga investors to go through with all those honesties..
    daghan gud na sila gipangprotektahan, labi na ila negosyo..
    being transparent is one manifestation of being honest..
    willing kaha sila ana??
    willing kaha sila mu-undergo sa mga hassle
    sa pagsige kuha ug unsa nga mga klase sa permit before sila makastart sa ila business..

    siguro dili jud matangtang ang corruption sa ato country as long as people
    still has the greed for wealth..
    mas maayu tingale buhaton kay if mangurakot ug piso dapat ang madugang sa atong
    economy kai 10pesos...
    but it would be more fun if masakpan nang nangurakot sa piso nya i-convict
    pero wala na executive clemency please..

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    Quote Originally Posted by adhesive View Post
    sis, happy new year!
    this my opinion lang ha if i beg to disagree with you...
    i think having an honest government is a hindrance to progress..
    why?this is the reality..
    kung honest ato government, willing ba mga investors to go through with all those honesties..
    daghan gud na sila gipangprotektahan, labi na ila negosyo..
    This is the product of 9 years of Arroyo administration. Since the admins is the one initiating corruption left and right, and with no prosecution at that, people are resigned to the idea that corruption cannot be stopped. Worse it TWISTED the mindset of some people.

    This comment is very horrifying. An entirely new consciousness engulfs the individual. It blurred her idea of what is right and what is wrong. If we continue with this kind of mentality, we the people are the ones who will suffer.

    This kind of mentality all the more should press for reforms, otherwise we will have a nation of zombies. Zombies of corruption.

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