Second Vatican Council (Vatican II)

[LightBearer]

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I guess The_Child is asking you to enumerate the arguments why you think Vatican 2 is heretical as you claim it to be.

why do you think Dignitatis Humane,Unitatis Redintegratio,Sacrosanctum Concilium are heresy?

and he is asking you to pinpoint w/c aspect of Vatican 2 you consider evil, masonic, and contradictory.

[The_Child]

Religious Liberty (Dignitatis Humane - Declaration on Religious Liberty) --- that is heresy, condemned!

do i need to define that one? Go figure sir, you are smarter than me... i aint your teacher!

Ecumenism (Unitatis Redintegratio - The Decree on Ecumenism) ---instead of converting non catholic religions, they want us to commune with false religion...that is condemned!

vatican 1 does not make any counter-syllabus teachings,only vatican 2!

how am I going to explain it to you? its just too simple to figure that out! if you dont understand?ask your NOVOS ORDO priest or read the documents..

Modernism (Sacrosanctum Concilium - Constitution on the Sacred Liturgy)----condemned!

they change the latin mass into vernacular, which still contradicted the dogma! you cant deny it! even the
novos ordo defenders cant even defend it!

dont be so phony defending the Novos Ordo religion....if you still deny it? then you are a heretic!

somebody is starting to blurt out Latin, as if its gonna help.
what your doing is merely enumerating some decrees that occurred in the second vatican council. yes?
what you failed to do, besides using your brain for its proper use, was that you were unable to make any sense of those decrees so loftily mentioned in latin, with the accusation you brought for: modernism, religious liberty ecumenism et al in connection to vatican 2 and its being 'evil' and heretical in its nature.


allow me to make this ismpler for you,
first, you accuse vatican 2 as 'evil' and heretical.
secondly, you justify these claim by saying that saying it advocates 'ecumenism' 'religious liberty' 'modernism'
but you ARE UNABLE TO CONNECT the justification with the claim in the first place. (what is the connection with 'modernism' with vatican 2 and your accusation that it is evil)

and perhaps because you want to impress people by citing particulars, so you cited these decrees without even explaining what it is all about.
in the end, its really just those extra words some students, out of desperation or out of their nature, write on their essays thinking that the teacher reading his work is an idiot, who cant tell between the essential and the non-essential.





i maybe a "heretic" to your mind, but then again look at that mind, it cant even distinguish between sense from non-sense.


cheers!

[maddox_pitt]

@ The_Child and bungot25:
can either of you explain your points more clearly? libog nuon q ani hehe
*peace sa inyo duha hehe*

[xiao-xiao]

we can't deny the fact nga daghay sayop sa Vatican II but division is not the solution... samot kalipaya ang yawa ana...


THOSE WHO DIVIDE THEMSELVES
SHALL FALL
“We do not condemn those who make these
side churches, the Traditional Roman Catholic
churches; they mean well, but they are being
led astray. There will be eventually an
American Catholic Church if this continues.
This is not approved by Heaven. Man’s
judgment can always err, especially when he
discounts the knowledge of the supernatural.
“Remember, My children, I have asked
you to remain steadfast in your parish
churches, even though it will be a crucifixion
to you. We cannot have schism in the United
States and Canada. For those who are united
shall stand, and those who divide themselves
shall fall. My child and My children, do not
discount this part of the Message from
Heaven. It is most urgent that this breaking
away stop now before it evolves into a major
schism.”
Jesus, September 14, 1985

[maddox_pitt]

we can't deny the fact nga daghay sayop sa Vatican II but division is not the solution... samot kalipaya ang yawa ana...


THOSE WHO DIVIDE THEMSELVES
SHALL FALL
“We do not condemn those who make these
side churches, the Traditional Roman Catholic
churches; they mean well, but they are being
led astray. There will be eventually an
American Catholic Church if this continues.
This is not approved by Heaven. Man’s
judgment can always err, especially when he
discounts the knowledge of the supernatural.
“Remember, My children, I have asked
you to remain steadfast in your parish
churches, even though it will be a crucifixion
to you. We cannot have schism in the United
States and Canada. For those who are united
shall stand, and those who divide themselves
shall fall. My child and My children, do not
discount this part of the Message from
Heaven. It is most urgent that this breaking
away stop now before it evolves into a major
schism.”
Jesus, September 14, 1985

asa na gikan xiao?

[xiao-xiao]

asa na gikan xiao?

messages of our Lord and Our Lady to Veronica.

Apparitions of Our Lady of the Roses, Mary Help of Mothers - the prophecies of Jesus and the blessed Virgin Mary to the seer Veronica Lueken

[maddox_pitt]

messages of our Lord and Our Lady to Veronica.

Apparitions of Our Lady of the Roses, Mary Help of Mothers - the prophecies of Jesus and the blessed Virgin Mary to the seer Veronica Lueken

okay...tnx..

[bungot25]

somebody is starting to blurt out Latin, as if its gonna help.
what your doing is merely enumerating some decrees that occurred in the second vatican council. yes?
what you failed to do, besides using your brain for its proper use, was that you were unable to make any sense of those decrees so loftily mentioned in latin, with the accusation you brought for: modernism, religious liberty ecumenism et al in connection to vatican 2 and its being 'evil' and heretical in its nature.


allow me to make this ismpler for you,
first, you accuse vatican 2 as 'evil' and heretical.
secondly, you justify these claim by saying that saying it advocates 'ecumenism' 'religious liberty' 'modernism'
but you ARE UNABLE TO CONNECT the justification with the claim in the first place. (what is the connection with 'modernism' with vatican 2 and your accusation that it is evil)

and perhaps because you want to impress people by citing particulars, so you cited these decrees without even explaining what it is all about.
in the end, its really just those extra words some students, out of desperation or out of their nature, write on their essays thinking that the teacher reading his work is an idiot, who cant tell between the essential and the non-essential.





i maybe a "heretic" to your mind, but then again look at that mind, it cant even distinguish between sense from non-sense.


cheers!

did I not prove it to you?those three heresies are my basis coz its contrary to church teachings!everything that is contrary to church teachings is evil, it was already explained...it is heretcal and condemned by previous popes! the explanation was just too simple, even a fifth grader can understand it,,,hehehe!you just dont get it because of your blindness!



One thing I dont like most was Vatican 2 believes in muslim religion, they said muslims worship the same GOD as ours,
you want to be in commune with muslims brader, muslims rejects the holy trinity,,
that is heresy believing in false religions....

the truth was, Vatican 2 rejects the dogma! and if you still deny it, then you are a liar!!!

cheeers!

[bungot25]

I guess The_Child is asking you to enumerate the arguments why you think Vatican 2 is heretical as you claim it to be.

why do you think Dignitatis Humane,Unitatis Redintegratio,Sacrosanctum Concilium are heresy?

and he is asking you to pinpoint w/c aspect of Vatican 2 you consider evil, masonic, and contradictory.

it contradicts the dogma thats why it is heresy and evil...God would reject the teachings if its contrary to the truth! Dogmas are revealed by the holy spirit and it is the basis for the church to avoid error, thats why it is so important to follow the dogma coz you are sinning against the holy spirit if you reject the traditional teachings.

[LightBearer]

Well I guess Paul VI got enlightened and saw that we are all one.