Second Vatican Council (Vatican II)

[The_Child]

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Yes, Re-directing the course of the church to destruction,. but as Jesus said on Matthew 16:18..

that is why many Catholic and True priest have its Faith to bring back the traditional mass which satan been trying invalidate,.

i wouldnt go so far as to say that. all these are just empty talks with not an iota of rational justification.

[maddox_pitt]

The original teaching's of Jesus Christ should be upheld and followed, he did not say that we should revise anything that he ought us to follow............

i agree to this one... Jesus Christ's teachings should be followed...
if i'm not mistaken, had Paul VI lived longer, he would've reversed the Church's stand on contraception... who knows what else he could have changed?
but then again, given He (God) is all-knowing, i still think He knows that this time will come and he still entrusted the Church to Peter...so i guess whatever conspiracies there may be in the Church today, it will still stand and He will still protect her....

[LightBearer]

Yes, Re-directing the course of the church to destruction,. but as Jesus said on Matthew 16:18..

that is why many Catholic and True priest have its Faith to bring back the traditional mass which satan been trying invalidate,.

what's in the traditional mass that makes the church the true church of Jesus?

[Alramzz]

they are church councils, the former occured in the 19th century while the latter around the 20th century. I dont want to break into detail, so you might want to ask mr. google.
my professor would joke that in the third vatican council, the bishops will be bringing their wives, while in the fourth vatican council they will be bringing their husbands.

I have goosebumps on your thoughts The_Child
before that happens maybe another Sodom and Gomorrah will be implement

[The_Child]

I have goosebumps on your thoughts The_Child
before that happens maybe another Sodom and Gomorrah will be implement

goosbumps? that perhaps only show that your Faith is not holding on as it really should.

cheers!

[Alramzz]

what's in the traditional mass that makes the church the true church of Jesus?

your question is irrelevant, Catholic is the church founded by Jesus, and you have a doubt with that? as of traditional mass just Google or see youtube and see the difference,. just todays masses is celebrated more like protestant

[LightBearer]

your question is irrelevant, Catholic is the church founded by Jesus, and you have a doubt with that? as of traditional mass just Google or see youtube and see the difference,. just todays masses is celebrated more like protestant

kalma lang. you took my question the wrong way. Let's review ...

LightBearer: I think what the Vatican 2 is doing is, She is re-directing the course of the church to fit the coming changes of the future, which is now and the coming years. She is expanding her arms and re-expressing the essence of Universalism and Love based on the teachings of the Catholic church.

Alramzz: Yes, Re-directing the course of the church to destruction,. but as Jesus said on Matthew 16:18..that is why many Catholic and True priest have its Faith to bring back the traditional mass which satan been trying invalidate,.


...you are implying that priests that celebrates non-traditional mass are heretics and therefore their church is not the true church of Jesus.

mao ng in my previous post I asked you this question...what's in the traditional mass that makes the church the true church of Jesus?

[Tirong-say]

What's important is the eucharist Bro, accepting and receiving the body and blood of Jesus Christ....plus we have the homily and offering as well........

When Jesus Christ assembled his disciples for a final meal during Passover, He used the common elements of bread and wine to illustrate a point. As the disciples consumed a portion of bread, Jesus told them they were actually eating His flesh, at least in a spiritual sense. The communal wine would also be considered His blood, which would soon be spilled as an atonement for mankind's sins. These elements of bread and wine, along with the intimate communications between believers and God, formed the basis of the Eucharist ceremony.

What is the Eucharist?

[seven_segment]

What's important is the eucharist Bro, accepting and receiving the body and blood of Jesus Christ....plus we have the homily and offering as well........

When Jesus Christ assembled his disciples for a final meal during Passover, He used the common elements of bread and wine to illustrate a point. As the disciples consumed a portion of bread, Jesus told them they were actually eating His flesh, at least in a spiritual sense. The communal wine would also be considered His blood, which would soon be spilled as an atonement for mankind's sins. These elements of bread and wine, along with the intimate communications between believers and God, formed the basis of the Eucharist ceremony.

What is the Eucharist?

AMEN!

thru the Holy Eucharist, humankind is prayed for...the salvation...

[bungot25]

what's in the traditional mass that makes the church the true church of Jesus?

latin mass is the passion of Christ, the devil is afraid of the latin mass, mao nang gahimo siya ug new mass kay hadlok man siya sa latin...mura ba claro kaayo ang duwa sa panuway ba!