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  1. #171

    Quote Originally Posted by kamikaze_007 View Post
    "..if relations with someone else are twisted, vitiated, then that other person can only be hell."..-sartre

    ..we tend to see ourselves with the perception of other people towards us, somehow we cannot simply neglect other people's judgment and we are surely affected by it.."if relations with someone else are twisted, vitiated, then that other person can only be hell" as what sartre explains it..

    .."you know what hell is, hell is other people"..(love to say that)

    ..the connection would be that satan/evil emerges when we have some "bad" relation with other person, and they would love to rub-off their negativeness on you and you just feel like hell..

    ..and we would see satan/evil as something "bad", brings no good to you and you just want to get rid off them..

    ..that's how i see hell, evils and satan..

    ..it is my perception though, influenced by sartre's philosophy..
    I think "hell is other people" (L'enfer cest les autres) famously quipped in his "No Exit" shows that the "I" is dependent upon the 'gaze' of the Other for its existence, or to be an existent (phenomenologically considered as that which appears) "I" exist as an 'Other' - I am intricately linked to the Other for it is the Other to which I appear as a phenomenon. My being \is a phenomenon to the Other, and without the Other i would not appear in the first place, i would not exist. that is why in the play, you could never be alone. ( this is tricky, what i have done is a simplification, for the "ego" transcends mere phenomenon for the Other)

    but precisely because the "i" is dependent upon the Other, that the Other is able to shape the "I" according to how they consider you, they begin to label you and define you, which is detrimental and violent to the "I" because this labeling this 'gaze' of the other, leaves the "I" as already Something in contrast to Nothing, that is, the very potentiality and freedom to be of the "I" to be something in the future is reduced to the present thru the 'gaze' of the other.

    also, the Other becomes hindrance to the freedom of the "I".

    but i do not see Satan anywhere. i dont think Sartre being an avowed atheist believes in Satan.
    Last edited by The_Child; 12-28-2009 at 07:45 AM.

  2. #172
    Satan or Evil exists to everyone of us....it's just how we deal with it...but we have our choice to get rid of it...

  3. #173
    wala may nka kita ni satan oi..

  4. #174
    Quote Originally Posted by gerine598 View Post
    wala. if u have faith.

    mistaken.total opposition sis.

  5. #175
    Quote Originally Posted by The_Child View Post
    I think "hell is other people" (L'enfer cest les autres) famously quipped in his "No Exit" shows that the "I" is dependent upon the 'gaze' of the Other for its existence, or to be an existent (phenomenologically considered as that which appears) "I" exist as an 'Other' - I am intricately linked to the Other for it is the Other to which I appear as a phenomenon. My being \is a phenomenon to the Other, and without the Other i would not appear in the first place, i would not exist. that is why in the play, you could never be alone. ( this is tricky, what i have done is a simplification, for the "ego" transcends mere phenomenon for the Other)

    but precisely because the "i" is dependent upon the Other, that the Other is able to shape the "I" according to how they consider you, they begin to label you and define you, which is detrimental and violent to the "I" because this labeling this 'gaze' of the other, leaves the "I" as already Something in contrast to Nothing, that is, the very potentiality and freedom to be of the "I" to be something in the future is reduced to the present thru the 'gaze' of the other.

    also, the Other becomes hindrance to the freedom of the "I".

    but i do not see Satan anywhere. i dont think Sartre being an avowed atheist believes in Satan.
    ..i do get your point..and i like your analysis on Sartre's philosophy..

    ..that's why i said "on my own perception influenced by Sartre's philsophy"..cause i am not aethist so i compare those people to satan that has just this "satanic personality"..

    ..it doesn't mean when you admire sartre's philosophy you have to be like sartre..

    ..we have different views..it is just that philosophy influenced me..

  6. #176

    Default Re: does satan exist?

    Exist jud na xa ky siya hinungdan sa tanan yawa nahitabo sa kalibutan..

  7. #177

    Default Re: does satan exist?

    yes it does!!!!! like murderers theft rapist etc!!!!

  8. #178

    Default Re: does satan exist?

    para nako satan exist when you do something realy terrible lyk kill or rape then
    look at the mirror a satan will appear.

    pero some people believe in satan creation & word thats why he still exist... its all just human being creation

  9. #179

    Default Re: does satan exist?

    yes...hail SATAN...................

  10. #180

    Default Re: does satan exist?

    Nope, and neither does:

    The tooth fairy.
    The boogeyman.
    Santa Claus (sorry kids).
    An honest politician.

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