Second Vatican Council (Vatican II)

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Answer to poverty: God has blessed us to bless others.

read it somewhere as commented in a youtube video

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Although the church has degraded, Our Lady asked us to remain with the church.

MAINTAIN THE PAPACY
“I ask you again not to abandon your parish
churches. You will maintain the papacy in
Rome. I tell you anew that 666 now is in
Rome. Do not judge My Son’s Church by His
pastors. In their human nature they can err;
however, as legitimate legally-ordained Roman
Catholic priests they will bring My Son to you
if you come seeking Him at the tabernacles of
the world. The Mass is valid, I say unto you!
“My Son is waiting for you at the
tabernacles of His Church. My children, do
not abandon Him in these days of deep
spiritual darkness. You must all keep a
constant vigilance of prayer going throughout
your country, the United States, and Canada,
and all of the countries throughout your
world.”
Our Lady, June 10, 1978


REMAIN
“Do not judge My Son’s Church by
man. The foundation is My Son,
Jesus. And though the walls may
develop cracks, the foundation is
solid. Will you not remain and patch
these cracks, My children? We do
not wish that you break apart into
small groups of discord. No schisms
must take place in My Son’s
Church. For all who are baptized a
Roman Catholic must die Roman
Catholics to enter Heaven.”
Our Lady, November 20, 1979

AMEN...

pero how about those who were not baptized...

again, the sacrifice at the Holy Eucharist for all that lives...is the answer

[Tirong-say]

I was born a roman catholic and would die as a roman catholic...............

[maddox_pitt]

the traditional mass was in Latin.. i dont know how to speak Latin so okay ra nako ang mass karon..mao ma'y akong namat-an...

anyways, history will tell us not all Popes were good..as what the Lady said, they still are human, they can err....as for the fake pope, anyone knows where he's gone? karon pako kabalo ani...

i'm not leaving my religion although i must admit, there was a time when i thought of abandoning my faith.... but through time as i gain it back (faith), i realized there is more to that than what any other human being can throw to destroy it...and though i can't explain it, it has changed me in more ways than these earthly things could...

@Tirong-say: same here... i was born Roman Catholic, I will also die Roman Catholic..

[maddox_pitt]

just thought i should post thisreferring to Veronica)

Bishop Francis Mugavero, then Bishop of the Roman Catholic Diocese of Brooklyn, stated in 1986 that "a thorough investigation revealed that the alleged visions of Bayside completely lacked authenticity" and that "the messages and other related propaganda contain statements which, among other things, are contrary to the teachings of the Catholic Church."

[xiao-xiao]

just thought i should post thisreferring to Veronica)

Bishop Francis Mugavero, then Bishop of the Roman Catholic Diocese of Brooklyn, stated in 1986 that "a thorough investigation revealed that the alleged visions of Bayside completely lacked authenticity" and that "the messages and other related propaganda contain statements which, among other things, are contrary to the teachings of the Catholic Church."

Have you heard about the third secret of Fatima? The secret converse about the apostasy of the church. The smoke of Satan will enter into the church.

It will be cardinals against cardinals, bishops against bishops these days. There are cardinals/bishops who supports Veronica.


"Pastors, do you reject the Message from Heaven because you fear it? Or do you prefer to ignore it because it will expose your error? Pride! False pride, My children, is the downfall of many. Cast aside this worldly pride! You have only one to face when you come over the veil: it is the judgment of the Eternal Father. You owe, My children, no allegiance to man who offends the Eternal Father. The Commandments given by the Eternal Father must be followed."
- Our Lady, October 6, 1975

[xiao-xiao]

just thought i should post thisreferring to Veronica)

Bishop Francis Mugavero, then Bishop of the Roman Catholic Diocese of Brooklyn, stated in 1986 that "a thorough investigation revealed that the alleged visions of Bayside completely lacked authenticity" and that "the messages and other related propaganda contain statements which, among other things, are contrary to the teachings of the Catholic Church."

"thorough investigation?"... grabe ka bakakon nga bishop...

from the tldm.org site..

The diocesan pronouncement does not correspond to the truth and is therefore null and void, for the following reasons:

Veronica Lueken and the Shrine workers were never approached and interviewed in the context of a proper Church investigation, not even by telephone. Monsignor King (who was serving in the Brooklyn diocese at the time) confirmed this statement in a radio interview with a Canadian radio station. Therefore there could never have been any lawful investigation, as the principal witness, the seer herself, was never interviewed as part of what should have rightly been an essential aspect of the formal investigative process. The fact that the diocese intentionally sidestepped the testimony of the principal witness should arouse legitimate concern.

[maddox_pitt]

@xiao: no i haven't heard of the 3rd secret of Fatima (i'll try to look it up)...

anyways, at this time, it's hard to believe anyone... i hope our current pope is in good hands... he had some issues with other religions, including his most famous speech involving Muslims....

[xiao-xiao]

@xiao: no i haven't heard of the 3rd secret of Fatima (i'll try to look it up)...

search for "real third secret of fatima" instead of "third secret of fatima" lng because there are speculations that the Vatican didn't release the full content of the secret. Fatima insisted the secret will be released in 1960 but the Vatican released it on 2000. There are



EVIDENCE OF FORGERY - The alleged third secret released by the Vatican on June 26th, 2000 was examined by Speckin Forensic Laboratories, an international forensic firm specializing in forgeries and handwriting (famous for the JonBenet Ramsey case). In a study of this Vatican document they stated, "it is my opinion, based on the documents examined, that the Questioned Document 'Third Secret' can not be identified with the purported known writings of Sister Lucy." (see Speckin report and handwriting analysis).

MORE EVIDENCE OF FORGERY: Signs of a skilled professional calligrapher or accomplished forger - Known writing samples of Sister Lucy do not match the style or quality of the writing present in the June 26, 2000 Vatican document. In fact, there is evidence that a professional calligrapher or accomplished forger wrote this document. Bear in mind that Sister Lucy is not a calligrapher and does not have the writing skill indicated in this Vatican document. A writing expert, upon examining the Vatican document, noted that "Great care was taken in that article in that the 'weight' of the stroke is almost flat, relative to the plane of the paper, throughout the whole document. Humans don't as a rule write that way. As an expert on legibility (among other things), I can state with some confidence that except for persons trained in the ritual art of copying or calligraphy, humans leave impressions in the act of writing which betrays things like how the body was held at the time of writing. Such things as whether there is something to act as a wrist brace and how far away from the writing surface, all leave impressions in the act of writing. The offered document has none of these apparent. In fact the absence of normal human writing 'quavers' (as they are known in the trade) suggests with some certainty that this person was trained to penmanship as an adult. Such people are rare these days, except in the catholic and orthodox (russian/greek) churches."


The history of the Third Secret of Fatima is one of cover up. As Our Lady of the Roses has said, "The hierarchy have not listened to My counsel—thirty-two years lost in indecision and fear of exposure. The Faith is shattered for many." (April 29, 1992)

[bungot25]

conspiracy theorist ends up haunted to their graves with ghosts that may never have existed.
it is the same with those who problemize things beyond their control - as if they could solve the problem of poverty, which until now is unanswered by the brightest of economic minds, in a single day or a week.

vatican 2 wants you to be in communion with false religion..