How did the concept (or idea) of God change your life?

[LightBearer]

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you know what guys the more we entertain the posts of these people like fundamental Christians and bible huggers, the more we give them reason to exist. I for one believe that they don't have the monopoly sa truth.

tan-awa gud na sila diri they don't reflect the true nature of someone who profess to follow Jesus. Mga loners og KSP na sila, true christians don't get into this kind of fury. I know that because I have friends nga belong sa born-again christian group and they don't act like the way these people here do.

kana ilang mga ramblings diha is worth nothing sa tinood lang, let them speak out their folly while we silently laugh in the corner. ana ra na ang treatment ani nila. don't waste your time nila don't even bother give any comment sa ilang mga posts.

the name of the Section is Spirituality and Occult then it further says..discuss aromatherapy...etc...wala'y sulti didto nga discuss religion. so leave them...the more you entertain these people the more nga they will think that they matter.

[LightBearer]

let us make this forum a place for a good discussion for people nga ganahan mo discuss about occultism,Wicca,Mysticism,and other path nga dili belong sa mainstream religion. kong mo ari na sila diri sila para mag samok samok or ridicule mga thread just don't respond. As ive said let them speak their folly and let us silently laugh in the corner.

ana jud na sila in the past ang ilang gamit kay power and authority karon kay protests and campagins na pod.

[bluedes]

.. but sadly, bluedes, please don't put words on james' mouth. What you did when you "translated" his testimony is insulting. It was his own opinion, you have no right to rephrase it for your own self amusement or for the discussions to go your way. That for me, is a very big personal attack towards James. Please don't ever do that again.

sorry about that.. but the moment i read his "declaration of his character/beliefs" in that manner, its quite unnerving that just because he believes in God all the rest who don't will have an opposite "character" as his..

i was merely showing that a similar "declaration of character/beliefs" in the opposite side would sound just as "good"..

i don't see anything wrong with someone standing by his beliefs, but there's also nothing wrong if we stand by our conviction thru KNOWLEDGE and REASON thru science.. its not to say that we have no faith.. faith for me is not equals belief.. personally.. that is a very very huge misunderstanding on this faith issue..

.. and to have my say on this..... the concept of God can be viewed in two different ways, it can be a tool for slavery and corruption ... or it can be a tool to help and unite the people. Me as an atheist never condemn or judge the believers, I don't preach or try to convince the believers to denounce their God. I just state my opinion on why I am an atheist and ask questions ( tangible one's ) to myself and find out the answers for myself. I'm not saying that the answers that I found is the real truth, bbaaahhh, i'm just another loser. But on the questions of God and the intangible i have only one answer to it... only when we die will we ALL be able to answer those questions.... that is why I don't get involved in arguements nor discussions about God and Religion coz it will, as we all saw, go in circles. Let's just wait when we die.

so how did the concept of God change your life? You do not condemn or judge the believers because you have come to a considerable level of understanding for the concept of God, right? that's nice.. i'm just curious though, how do you respond to the believers who begin condemning you?

[bluedes]

You could never threaten my faith, but you have shown that my faith threatens you. You call my faith weak? I have to face off every day to 20 panty-waisted smart mouth arrogant snot-nosed godless punks who directly challenge every post I make on this forum and you have not made a dimple in my resolve, and you all scream like a bunch of wounded puppies and call my faith weak? Funny little man child.

yeah.. right.. if you really wanna go that far, why did you become an "atheist" and spend what? 14 years in science.. if you were that faithful, what took you so long to go back to your faith? and after spending 14 years of science, you just "throw" science out the window because you "felt" that God called you back to the path? pffftt.. that's what you call faith? in our local language, i call that "balimbing".. sorry, no offense.. i don't wanna continue this line of argument.. if i were to summarize it, the entirety is how the concept of God influenced your life.. and man it influenced your life a lot..

I was trying to help not get the thread closed and was attacked for it, so I said find get it closed then. Only around 20 threads had been closed due to petty bickering, and it appeared that it was happening again on your thread. Sorry I gave a damn. I do not make the same mistake twice.

you were trying not to get the thread closed by lambasting at your declaration of your beliefs? yeah right.. but anyway, i don't really care if the thread gets closed.. i do know that i don't have any hidden agendas whatsoever.. some threads here that i created were closed because of circular bickerings of people who are too "serious" or "insecure" about their beliefs..

I was answering a member's questions to me. I was not trying to judge anybody, sorry if that is what you read. You think you read an attack then you show that in yourself that which offended you? Too thin-skinned, get your feelings hurt too easily. It is like talking to big babies.

It was a your judgment sparked by your insecurities and your actions only proved my statement of my testimony to be true. It just made you small and petty.

huh? who's measure are we talking here? you put the measure, no judgment was made against you.. i'm just using a mirror to show you what words you have posted here.. nothing personal..

The judging attitude was yours alone and in you limited interpretation. You decided to try to judge me because you got your little feelings hurt? Yep very manly.

my feelings hurt? i don't have feelings for fanatics.. why would I waste my feelings on fanatics..

No, Character is something you are suppose to possess. I have seen 10 years old girls with character. You are just developing into being a character.

sorry, but you're mixing things up here.. 10 year old girls have personality.. they have barely any character developed yet.. you probably slept in your psychology 101 class way back differentiating character, personality, and behavior.. eh?

[devils_advocate]

To end my opinion is that there is a GOD but it does not require religion to be with GOD or speak with GOD. Because what I do is between me and GOD and does not involve ritualistic religions asking alms to enrich themselves. I've seen almost religion ask monetary material things from members when in fact GOD does not need any of those. So for me religion is for the weak who seeks shelter from others to magnify themselves. There is a GOD and he did not ask for material ritualistic things because He doesn't need those for the fact that He is a GOD. There that's my opinion and again I might be wrong 'cause I can't prove my words.

[jamesmusslewhite]

yeah.. right.. if you really wanna go that far, why did you become an "atheist" and spend what? 14 years in science.. if you were that faithful, what took you so long to go back to your faith? and after spending 14 years of science, you just "throw" science out the window because you "felt" that God called you back to the path? pffftt.. that's what you call faith? in our local language, i call that "balimbing".. sorry, no offense.. i don't wanna continue this line of argument.. if i were to summarize it, the entirety is how the concept of God influenced your life.. and man it influenced your life a lot..
I was raised a Catholic and saw the lies. Earned an MBA and could not find a stinking job because of President Jimmy Carter, and then had to join the Marines went Recon were I was a sniper, I almost was blown to bits and had to help carry 241 of my best friends out of that rubble in Beirut 1983. I also had to Kill people, a lot of people. I watched my marriage crumble. I watched my step father die and my mother take 10 years to slowly die of cancer. I was attending liberal colleges with left-wing Socialist Atheist instructors and I was a young stupid dipshit who though I was too clever. I had a lot on my plate, doubts, issues, and a few personal problems, too much false pride, and I hated God. why you ask?

See and there it is. The true root of the real predigest, boys angry that a Scientist could dare choose to follow God, that only an Atheist can be a scientist. If an Atheist is a Scientist he is cleaver. If a Scientist becomes a Christian than he is dumb and therefore allowed to be subject to ridicule and even called a liar by those hiding behind keyboards By those who dare to act like they have the right to judge or weigh me? You really think you have done anything to warrant respect? Because I choose to walk with God, you call be a flip-flop?

Did God influence my life? Yes, God saved me from myself. 15 years ago, if I had met someone face to face and they would have insulted me just half as much as the cowards on this forum have; I would have handed them back their balls. Now I just forgive the ignorant and arrogance and leave them for Karma. It is God's cosmic balance.

you were trying not to get the thread closed by lambasting at your declaration of your beliefs? yeah right.. but anyway, i don't really care if the thread gets closed.. i do know that i don't have any hidden agendas whatsoever.. some threads here that i created were closed because of circular bickerings of people who are too "serious" or "insecure" about their beliefs..
I was secure enough to make statements meant from my heart inline with the parameter of the thread you started, even as I was answering a member's direct questions to me. The Mod did not see a problem with what I wrote, you did. You chose to twist them because you could not handle them. That Statement is a Fallacy, you did have a hidden agenda and you imposed it and you were called down for it bu the Mod. Just grow a little and accept it and move on. I do nothing that would warrant anyone to close your thread or anyone else's thread, but the TS still has the responsibility to be fair, balanced, and honest with his threads.

huh? who's measure are we talking here? you put the measure, no judgment was made against you.. i'm just using a mirror to show you what words you have posted here.. nothing personal..
Well you were the one to decided to take it upon yourself to try to play judge and jury. No you opted to use someones word and impose you own meaning for fun and sport and to satisfy your own agenda. You really can not see the wrong in what you did, and that is sad. If I had done that to you, then you would be screaming and trying to have me banned. An you are still trying to act as if you were clever? Sure really nothing personal? It was all personal.

my feelings hurt? i don't have feelings for fanatics.. why would I waste my feelings on fanatics..
That is probably one of the truest more honest statements I have heard you make. That statement may show the inherent selfishness which drives your disbelief. Look in a mirror and self reflect for you are displaying the worst type of fanaticism. You want to control and censor those who disagree with you. News Flash: A lot of people in this world will disagree with you, you have no right to try to censor anyone. Here that is the Mods job and you are no Mod, even if you think you run the page. You are still just a member like me, nothing more and nothing less..

sorry, but you're mixing things up here.. 10 year old girls have personality.. they have barely any character developed yet.. you probably slept in your psychology 101 class way back differentiating character, personality, and behavior.. eh?
I just have seen boys more man than their fathers, who stepped and and help support all his family. I have seen little girls fight to support and hold together her family during times when her parents failed. Some people are born with character, and some never have it. I have walked with those of the highest Character and Honor. I'm talking the knowledge of the streets and from real life observations. Arguments of Semantics and conjecture are just exercises of futility. Look the word up in a dictionary, find where age is even mentioned in the definition of the word. It is like the word Class. Some just seem to be born with it and some never will possess it.

I will just forgive you but I leave you to Karma.

[Hellblazer 2.1]

"You got me all wrong." -God

[regnauld]

If God had a name what would it be?
And would you call it to his face?
If you were faced with him
In all his glory
What would you ask if you had just one question?

*And yeah, yeah, God is great
Yeah, yeah, God is good
Yeah, yeah, yeah-yeah-yeah

What if God was one of us?
Just a slob like one of us
Just a stranger on the bus
Trying to make his way home

If God had a face what would it look like?
And would you want to see
If seeing meant that
you would have to believe
in things like heaven and in Jesus and the saints
and all the prophets (*)

Trying to make his way home
Back up to heaven all alone
Nobody calling on the phone
'cept for the Pope maybe in Rome(*)

Just trying to make his way home
Like a holy rolling stone
Back up to heaven all alone
Just trying to make his way home
Nobody calling on the phone
'cept for the Pope maybe in Rome

YouTube - Joan Osborne - One of us

I LOVE THIS SONG...I DEDICATE THIS SONG TO ALL THE HERETICS WHO WERE BURNED BY THE CHURCH!

[bluedes]

I will just forgive you but I leave you to Karma.

i'm not asking for your forgiveness.. and I already have too much of this Karma thingy..
but nothing personal.. i'm just mirroring your posts.. if you do not wish to go any further, i have no desire either..

[bluedes]

I was raised a Catholic and saw the lies. Earned an MBA and could not find a stinking job because of President Jimmy Carter, and then had to join the Marines went Recon were I was a sniper, I almost was blown to bits and had to help carry 241 of my best friends out of that rubble in Beirut 1983. I also had to Kill people, a lot of people. I watched my marriage crumble. I watched my step father die and my mother take 10 years to slowly die of cancer. I was attending liberal colleges with left-wing Socialist Atheist instructors and I was a young stupid dipshit who though I was too clever. I had a lot on my plate, doubts, issues, and a few personal problems, too much false pride, and I hated God. why you ask?

See and there it is. The true root of the real predigest, boys angry that a Scientist could dare choose to follow God, that only an Atheist can be a scientist. If an Atheist is a Scientist he is cleaver. If a Scientist becomes a Christian than he is dumb and therefore allowed to be subject to ridicule and even called a liar by those hiding behind keyboards By those who dare to act like they have the right to judge or weigh me? You really think you have done anything to warrant respect? Because I choose to walk with God, you call be a flip-flop?

Did God influence my life? Yes, God saved me from myself. 15 years ago, if I had met someone face to face and they would have insulted me just half as much as the cowards on this forum have; I would have handed them back their balls. Now I just forgive the ignorant and arrogance and leave them for Karma. It is God's cosmic balance.

i'm not calling you a flip-flop.. you are calling yourself a flip-flop.. the fact that you have not reconciled with your past, just shows how much you really hated yourself for being a "scientist/atheist".. and now, you're just brandishing everyone else who you "think" are going thru the same stage as you are as flip-flops.. every man has his own experience.. just because I choose to be in line with science doesn't mean I share your sentiments on atheism when you were into it.. that's the problem with most "religionists".. they tend to classify those who went thru seemingly similar paths as them should have same sentiments, and when they "switch" sides, they expect those to switch sides too.. duhhh..

I was secure enough to make statements meant from my heart inline with the parameter of the thread you started, even as I was answering a member's direct questions to me. The Mod did not see a problem with what I wrote, you did. You chose to twist them because you could not handle them. That Statement is a Fallacy, you did have a hidden agenda and you imposed it and you were called down for it bu the Mod. Just grow a little and accept it and move on. I do nothing that would warrant anyone to close your thread or anyone else's thread, but the TS still has the responsibility to be fair, balanced, and honest with his threads.

secure enough? yeah, right.. the mod did not see a problem with what you wrote? yeah right..
i didn't see any problem with what you wrote.. i merely translated what you wrote into something of the opposite.. and then you called foul? what's the difference with my translation from yours? because yours sounds more convincing than the alternative translation I posted? yeah right..

Well you were the one to decided to take it upon yourself to try to play judge and jury. No you opted to use someones word and impose you own meaning for fun and sport and to satisfy your own agenda. You really can not see the wrong in what you did, and that is sad. If I had done that to you, then you would be screaming and trying to have me banned. An you are still trying to act as if you were clever? Sure really nothing personal? It was all personal.

that's where you are mistaken.. i have no such agenda here.. i merely brought a mirror and showed it to you.. if you don't like what you see in the mirror, then that's your problem, not mine..

That is probably one of the truest more honest statements I have heard you make. That statement may show the inherent selfishness which drives your disbelief. Look in a mirror and self reflect for you are displaying the worst type of fanaticism. You want to control and censor those who disagree with you. News Flash: A lot of people in this world will disagree with you, you have no right to try to censor anyone. Here that is the Mods job and you are no Mod, even if you think you run the page. You are still just a member like me, nothing more and nothing less..

umm.. so just because i choose not to spare any feelings for so-called believers makes me selfish? yeah right.. did I try to censor and tell you to stop posting? sheeesh.. people really don't want to look at themselves in the mirror, that's for sure..

I just have seen boys more man than their fathers, who stepped and and help support all his family. I have seen little girls fight to support and hold together her family during times when her parents failed. Some people are born with character, and some never have it. I have walked with those of the highest Character and Honor. I'm talking the knowledge of the streets and from real life observations. Arguments of Semantics and conjecture are just exercises of futility. Look the word up in a dictionary, find where age is even mentioned in the definition of the word. It is like the word Class. Some just seem to be born with it and some never will possess it.

yeah.. some young people have developed their character really early on.. there's nothing wrong with it.. but what you just said about 10 year old girls is not character, but personality..

look the word up in the dictionary yourself.. okay.. here's a courtesy definition, just so you can clearly differentiate between the two.

Is there a difference between personality and Character?


Certainly there is a difference! Personality deals with the image that you project, how other people perceive you and how you deal with other people.
Character refers to the morals that a person has, their penchant to do the right thing.
Someone can have an excellent character and always be depended on to do good things, but have the personality of a wet rag. And the nicest, most outgoing person in the world can back stab their friends on a regular basis.

Personality is the innate feature of a person which makes him/her unique and subjective, whereas character is universal and objective and can be improved, developped, changed and adapted within the society interacted.Character is shaped by the individual experiences.