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    Quote Originally Posted by dartzed View Post
    hmmmmmmmm you mean if ikaw ang mupili imo iapil ang mga books nga ni disprove sa teachings on both the old and new testament?.. mao na imo gusto?..

    just take the example of your 1st book nga gihatag "The Book of Jubilees" don't you know that the writer greatly denies the resurrection of the body; he does not believe in the written tradition; he does not reprobate animal sacrifices, etc....

    even the scholars who studied those books said that most of the author were fervent opponent of the Christian Faith thus it is clearly read on their writings..
    That may very well be true but it was written 200 years before the Death of Christ. The writers may have had problem the Hebrew's Judaism, but the Christians had yet come into being.

    We Gentile(non-Jewish) Christians are only bound by the teachings of the New Testament. The Old Testament was for the Hebrews of Judaism.

  2. #232
    Quote Originally Posted by jamesmusslewhite View Post
    That may very well be true but it was written 200 years before the Death of Christ. The writers may have had problem the Hebrew's Judaism, but the Christians had yet come into being.

    We Gentile(non-Jewish) Christians are only bound by the teachings of the New Testament. The Old Testament was for the Hebrews of Judaism.
    d bya bro Christians use both old and new testament wui.. kay ang new testament nagbase mana sa old testament.. only the Jews use the old testament..

    but if you will examine those writings it contradicts with both the old and the new testaments mao wala giapil..

  3. #233
    Quote Originally Posted by dartzed View Post
    hmmmmmmmm you mean if ikaw ang mupili imo iapil ang mga books nga ni disprove sa teachings on both the old and new testament?.. mao na imo gusto?..

    just take the example of your 1st book nga gihatag "The Book of Jubilees" don't you know that the writer greatly denies the resurrection of the body; he does not believe in the written tradition; he does not reprobate animal sacrifices, etc....

    even the scholars who studied those books said that most of the author were fervent opponent of the Christian Faith thus it is clearly read on their writings..
    Akong point bro nganung wala man nila giapil nang nga book kay para dili malibog ang mga christians or simply para mudaghan ilahang followers (pangwartahan)? Nga kanang mga books pare pareha2 ra man na xag age sa kanang mga naapil sa bible......It simply emphasizes nga ilang gipamili kay ang mga books ra nga mu fit sa story so meaning sila2 ray nagbuhat sa story.......

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    Quote Originally Posted by dartzed View Post
    thats the reason why there are 7 books added in the RCs bible for they take too long to decide/study thoroughly about the scripture if it must be added to the bible or not.. nya pag add sa RC ulbo ang kaspa mga protestante..

    there are still books nga until now gcge pa ug studyhan sa RC church..
    Bro interesting kau inyong topic da, bro naa ko question. para nimo fabricated naba ang New testament? kay ang mga Jew dili man sila mo dawat anang New testament please if you have the knowledge share naman mga bro.

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    Default New testament in the bible is it human fabrication?

    Mga bro if you have knowledge about this please share naman o, k ang Jews dili man mo dawat sa New testament k ang ilang nahibaw-an Old raman jud kuno ang gihatag sa Dios Amahan.

  6. #236
    Quote Originally Posted by borge_009 View Post
    Akong point bro nganung wala man nila giapil nang nga book kay para dili malibog ang mga christians or simply para mudaghan ilahang followers (pangwartahan)? Nga kanang mga books pare pareha2 ra man na xag age sa kanang mga naapil sa bible......It simply emphasizes nga ilang gipamili kay ang mga books ra nga mu fit sa story so meaning sila2 ray nagbuhat sa story.......
    ah okies so you want kita mismo ang mupili kung unsa ato tuhuan mao na gnhan unta nimo iapil na kung mahimo palang?..

  7. #237
    Quote Originally Posted by dartzed View Post
    ah okies so you want kita mismo ang mupili kung unsa ato tuhuan mao na gnhan unta nimo iapil na kung mahimo palang?..

    dili bro......para nko dili ko sa bible kay taw ra man sad ang nag himu ana.......

  8. #238
    Quote Originally Posted by Vien View Post
    Bro interesting kau inyong topic da, bro naa ko question. para nimo fabricated naba ang New testament? kay ang mga Jew dili man sila mo dawat anang New testament please if you have the knowledge share naman mga bro.
    nobody really know bro but if ang ato lang basehan is between sa old testament and the new testament ok ra au..

    the main reason why wala gidawat ang new testament nga writing sa mga Jews kay because:

    1. deli hebrew ang suwat niya if karemeber ka sa verse sa bible naay nag.ingon did2 nga the scriptures are/have been given to the Jews pasabot d cla mudawat sa new testamnet since deli mana gikan sa ila..

    2. the new testament be tested too much about Jesus that he is a messiah as well as God which contradicts daw sa teaching sa Jews which is God is God deli tao nga ang name Jesus kay para nila messenger na c Jesus but not as what his apostles wrote..
    Last edited by dartzed; 12-16-2009 at 07:47 PM.

  9. #239
    Quote Originally Posted by borge_009 View Post
    dili bro......para nko dili ko sa bible kay taw ra man sad ang nag himu ana.......
    hmmmmmmm unsa man jud d i imo gituhuan?..

  10. #240
    naa bay mga evidence nga nagsulti nga kanang iyahang mga giingon nga apostles kay eyewitness jud na sila?

    Nka nakadungog ko nga kanang mga writer sa gospels sa bible dili na sila eyewitness kay nasuwat na pila na ka years after sa death ni jesus..........nya ang uban nangopya ra ug ides sa uban nga nka suwat na......so how can we possibly say nga tinuod or accurate na ilahang mga gisuwat?

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