Wireless Electricity

[binarypill]

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Sa pagkatinuod lang bai..nalibog jud ko sa pasabot nimo..and you even told me that people like me is the problem since were "stuck" on some particular mindset of electron flow? asa ato pasabot nimo, kadto "no power source"? or kadto "wireless energy"?

the problem is your idea that electron flow only happens with "electrical potential difference". i am not saying that the people are the problem. the problem is their inability to let go of prior learning to embrace new ideas.

If ang "no power source", Ok..let me ask..the vibrations you've mentioned which would in turn produce electron flow..is it not a technically a "power source"?

i am not saying power sources are not needed. i think that's the point of the entire thread - to explore a viable "wireless" power source.

reading your entire thread, you are really into the idea of power as "electricity". granting that a majority of power comes from electricity, there are actually many other ways by which power can be generated. for instance, motion creates power.

think of it this way. when you talk about providing electrical power to your gadgets, if you strip it down to basics, what you really mean is inducing electron flow in your gadget (put aside your VIR thoughts for a bit). at the moment, electron flow in your gadget works only through the batteries you place into them or from the electrical outlet in your house.

now imagine if you can induce that electron flow WITHOUT the use of batteries or your power outlet (just imagine, don't fight it yet). how would you go about that?

first, you realize that electron flow is merely the movement of electrons. while the quickest way to do that at the moment is with electricity from batteries and power outlets, that is not the only way. for instance, you have chemical reactions (which is actually your battery), heat and light reactions. realizing that, you then deduce that there may be other viable ways of inducing electron flow, a few of which we could term as "wireless".

here's a link for you: vibration powered generator. that link is about generating power through vibrations. as you know, unlike electricity, vibrations do not need conductors to travel. vibrations can travel through wood, concrete and even air.

AIR! so there you go, an idea for wireless power!

[gaevwa]

the problem is your idea that electron flow only happens with "electrical potential difference".

first, you realize that electron flow is merely the movement of electrons. while the quickest way to do that at the moment is with electricity from batteries and power outlets, that is not the only way. for instance, you have chemical reactions (which is actually your battery), heat and light reactions. realizing that, you then deduce that there may be other viable ways of inducing electron flow, a few of which we could term as "wireless".

here's a link for you: vibration powered generator.

AIR! so there you go, an idea for wireless power!

hi sir..

from your own link vibration powered generator:

1.Vibration powered generators are mechanisms for converting kinetic energy derived from ambient vibration to electrical energy. (See Transducer)

->my observation: one very common example is piezoelectric devices (transducer)..in the end "electrical potential difference"

2. Magnets wobbling on a cantilever are sensitive to even small vibrations and generate microcurrents by moving relative to conductors - see Faraday's law of induction.

->my observation: Faraday's law of induction is a basic law of electromagnetism..to make things short, small micro-electromagnetic generators..in the end "electrical potential difference"

->additional comment: "The principle, later called Faraday's law, is that a potential difference is generated between the ends of an electrical conductor that moves perpendicular to a magnetic field." from wikipedia : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electrical_generator

so where exactly can we find the problem of the "idea that electron flow only happens with "electrical potential difference"" in here?

i am not saying power sources are not needed. i think that's the point of the entire thread - to explore a viable "wireless" power source.

mao bitaw nalibog jud ko nimo sir..if you're not saying that power sources is not needed.. then why are we arguing about "electrical potential difference"?

for a simple analogy:
electrons is basically and roughly like water.. if water is not moving in "one direction", then we cannot say that water is flowing.. but if water is in an inclined plane, then water will flow...same as that with electrons.. While water may move randomly (much like electrons), it will only flow in one direction if we raise one part.. Now for the analogy. water flow is Current I.. raised part height is Voltage (Electrical potential difference)..and the width of the channel plus any obstacle is the Resistance..

hope i made this clear..

[pepau]

with that analogy, maybe we should try to use other things aside sa water/electrons to power up our devices. or shall i say invent something that do naot use electrons. which i think is very difficult kron. kay halos tanan or majority sa ato devices are electrical.

dili na guro "electric" fan ang tawag, hehehe

[gaevwa]

with that analogy, maybe we should try to use other things aside sa water/electrons to power up our devices. or shall i say invent something that do naot use electrons. which i think is very difficult kron. kay halos tanan or majority sa ato devices are electrical.

dili na guro "electric" fan ang tawag, hehehe

hi boss. there are other forms of energy available sir.. and we're using some of them directly example, solar cooking, solar heater, hot springs,..in fact, civilization wise, we started with these things..pero powering up our daily devices with other forms of energy..nindot sad na nga idea da..

[ix-888]

Some very nice PDF files about Tesla's Wireless Power :

>>>Wireless Transmission of Electricity – Development and Possibility PDF File<<<




>>>Art of Transmitting Electrical Energy through the Natural Mediums by Nikola Tesla himself PDF File<<<




>>>Apparatus for Transmitting Electrical Energy by Nikola Tesla PDF File<<<

[NASYO]

it's not efficient
total loss of power

[gaevwa]

Some very nice PDF files about Tesla's Wireless Power :

>>>Wireless Transmission of Electricity – Development and Possibility PDF File<<<




>>>Art of Transmitting Electrical Energy through the Natural Mediums by Nikola Tesla himself PDF File<<<




>>>Apparatus for Transmitting Electrical Energy by Nikola Tesla PDF File<<<

mao ni sige nako sulti sa unahan ani nga thread.. nice ix-888!

[binarypill]

Tesla rules!!!

so where exactly can we find the problem of the "idea that electron flow only happens with "electrical potential difference"" in here

okay, point for you there. the example was to illustrate to you how wireless power could work anyway.

however, i still hold that we need a mindset overhaul so we can "discover" new ways to create power independent from traditional power sources.

[pepau]

unsa na lng kaha ka dagkoa ng transmitter antena nga himoun para ani.. hehe

[binarypill]

@pepau: ideally, we wouldn't need a transmitter. the device that requires power would power itself.