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    Quote Originally Posted by jamesmusslewhite View Post
    This an excellent point and many do not know the difference. I as a true Born Again, fellowship and attend no man-made agenda driven church, but choose the path of Christ's own Universal Church. For a church to demand your tithes is a blaspheme of that church, even to give man's church a tithe is a sin. The desire for our money over the desire of our soul's salvation is the main sin of all man's church.
    God put the riches into the Earth, gave his word for free, and gave his son's blood for our salvation. So why does God need your money? Why is it deposited in a man's banking account? Why does the church charge you to hear God's words, when he gave them freely to you? Why does the church claim they are your salvation, when Christ said, "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me"?

    This site has an excellent definition and description of the differences in the belief between the two camps under the umbrella of the Christian Churches.
    Christianity vs Churchianity
    that's all nice and well, advertising one church to be non-dogmatic or such and such.. a lot of new churches are doing that nowadays.. (e.g. scientology)

    but the moment you have rules and set of doctrines you need to follow that sets you apart from everyone else, AND require everyone else to follow such doctrines too (or coerce them before they can join such and such named "universal church" or some other), or basically even just a hint of "exclusivity", you are already being dogmatic..

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    ^^ korek ka dyan....

  3. #123
    Quote Originally Posted by Gwynhuever View Post
    @kebot....ok....medyo nalibog lang ko ba kay imong previous post ni ingon man gud ka

    "Jesus The Christ was even a freethinker,
    --- how come he promote dogma? dont get confused reg..."

    pero sa imong recent post :

    "I dont believe Christ promoted Dogma. No religion will save you dba? so question is how? "if you love me keep my commandments" mao rani brad.

    medyo naglibog ko which is which...pero ok na kasabot nako brad....

    di na lang ko mo tubag sa imo follow up question why i think Jesus was against dogmas kay ma OT na ta...plus mag lalis pa jud....tig basa man kaha ka bible bro....paki check for yourself na lang ha...
    dali ra man na ma discern....kato bitaw ni lalis ug ni supak siya sa high priests....e.g healing during sabbath etc etc
    Jesus The Christ was even a freethinker,
    --- gi qoute rani nako brad... ako reaction will follow ana prefix with ('--- ')

    -

    sorry for misleading you. but most of my post i do it that way...

    why i think Jesus was against dogmas kay ma OT na ta.
    --- to clarify brad, Christ is/was the fullfilment of the old laws. Old Laws is Dogma. What ever his intent about dogmas... I am not the right person to be asked... but i differ to believe one can definitely say Against or Pro DOGMA.

    kato bitaw ni lalis ug ni supak siya sa high priests
    --- did you know that the church become a politics in those time? thats why christ separate himself from the state.
    --- give to caesar what is due to caesar give to God what is due him.

    Beyond ana brad.... i don't know...
    Last edited by kebotDiNaMute; 11-24-2009 at 02:07 PM.

  4. #124
    Quote Originally Posted by bluedes View Post
    that's all nice and well, advertising one church to be non-dogmatic or such and such.. a lot of new churches are doing that nowadays.. (e.g. scientology)

    but the moment you have rules and set of doctrines you need to follow that sets you apart from everyone else, AND require everyone else to follow such doctrines too (or coerce them before they can join such and such named "universal church" or some other), or basically even just a hint of "exclusivity", you are already being dogmatic..
    and the next thing you'll know, is that you've traded one dogma for another. right, mr.blue?

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