You can be a moral person without God...

[Traditz]

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What does it mean to be "a moral person without God"? Does it mean that a person can do acts that are objectively good or objectively bad without God?

[schmuck]

How did you come to the conclusion that the account of the earth's age is blatantly wrong? How do you know that the author of Genesis did not intend it to mean figuratively?

What makes you say bro that the origin of the earth or the universe can't be proven nor dis-proven? I think there's one thing that we're reasonable to believe here, that the universe originated out of nothing. Don't you agree?

no, i don't agree. It is an assumption that the universe even "originated".
My stance is withheld until more data is available.


Okay, let's go back to the topic.

What do you mean by that bro, that a person can do acts that are objectively good or objectively bad without God?

with AND without.
genocide is not ok, right?
god-commanded genocide, is it ok? you decide.

[Traditz]

no, i don't agree. It is an assumption that the universe even "originated".
My stance is withheld until more data is available.

You mean to say that the universe has no beginning?

Okay, let's go back to the topic.


with AND without.
genocide is not ok, right?
god-commanded genocide, is it ok? you decide.

So you believe that there are acts that are objectively bad, and others that are objectively good?

[Traditz]

no, i don't agree. It is an assumption that the universe even "originated".
My stance is withheld until more data is available.

Bro, what about Big Bang cosmology? Doesn't it point to the universe's absolute beginning?

[schmuck]

Bro, what about Big Bang cosmology? Doesn't it point to the universe's absolute beginning?

this is just one model. look up 'cyclic model'.

So you believe that there are acts that are objectively bad, and others that are objectively good?

kibaw ko asa ni pdung, mangutana ka asa gi base ang good og bad.
look up the term 'moral zeitgeist'

[Pein]

god-commanded genocide, is it ok? you decide.

unya ikaw ang gisugo sa Ginoo aning imong giingon nga genocide?

[schmuck]

unya ikaw ang gisugo sa Ginoo aning imong giingon nga genocide?

two options:
1. akong icheck-in akong kaugaling sa psych ward. I'm hearing voices in my head.
2. I'll follow like what Joshua and Moses did.

which is more "moral"?

[Pein]

two options:
1. akong icheck-in akong kaugaling sa psych ward. I'm hearing voices in my head.
2. I'll follow like what Joshua and Moses did.

which is more "moral"?

nganong mu follow man ka nga dili man ikaw ang gisugo atong genocide? example niingon ang Ginoo, "paghimo ug arka", maghimo pud ka bisan dili ikaw ang gisugo...?

toytoy bah...

[schmuck]

nganong mu follow man ka nga dili man ikaw ang gisugo atong genocide? example niingon ang Ginoo, "paghimo ug arka", maghimo pud ka bisan dili ikaw ang gisugo...?

toytoy bah...

wala man nimo klaroha pein. ako ang giingnan or dili?
kung pananglitan, suguon ka nga mag genocide. sugot ka?

[Pein]

wala man nimo klaroha pein. ako ang giingnan or dili?

kaklaro sa akong giingon...gisugo ka sa Ginoo atong imong giingon nga genocide or wala? mao ranang sud ana schmuck...