You can be a moral person without God...

[nwt956]

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Then why need a god? Why go to church? Why pray?

why need god? Kay ang God man ang tag-iya nato tanan, siya ang nakahibaw ug unsay maau para nimo.
why go to church? Agi ug pasalamat sa iya, mo-simba ta niya (to all religion).
why pray? para maka-pahibaw cya sa imo gusto sa imo kinabuhi.

[schmuck]

--- read again... eyes on the board smak... EPIC FAIL.
hai nako kebot, dili jd ka abtik og sarcasm sa? pity.
notice the /s dodong

--- keep reading you will understand his point, and yes.. dr. ross is trying to link evolution and creation... not unless you dont understand... then there is nothing more i can help you...
KEEP READING.
-- dr ross said billions of years.
HAHAHAHA galalis ang mga creationist oi. Dili kuno biblical iyang mga gipangyawyaw. Asa man jd ka nga side?



The flood did NOT happen.
-- well giant clams does not do very well in climbing.... hundreds of terrified clams has been found on MT. EVEREST. maybe billions of years ago clams fly... what du think?
tectonic plate movement. elementary science man ni. wala ni sa inyo?

[Traditz]

We now know that all the creatures on earth were NOT created at the same time and that they have NOT stayed always the same until now.
The world is NOT 10K years old.
The earth is NOT the center of the universe.
The flood did NOT happen.
etc etc etc

Most Christians would agree on those points, except the young earth creationists I think.

But how does that disprove the Christian God?

[schmuck]

Most Christians would agree on those points, except the young earth creationists I think.

But how does that disprove the Christian God?

So your not a young-earth creationist, that's good.
Simple ra man na. It shows that the bible is false/incorrect. So, that means the bible god is false/incorrect also

[honey89]

All I know that my God is real. You can call me crazy, idiot, stupid, or whatever for believing in him. But he has changed my life and the lives of many of my loved ones in ways that I could never imagine. Each day has never been beautiful, and I was never able to appreciate my life so much better than before, because he's teaching me to appreciate the gifts that he has given me and use all of them for his glory.

[Traditz]

So your not a young-earth creationist, that's good.
Simple ra man na. It shows that the bible is false/incorrect. So, that means the bible god is false/incorrect also

Why do you say bro that that means that the Bible got it wrong? With regard to the age of the earth, most Christians understand it figuratively, not a literal 7-day creation.

The Genesis account also tells it like this, that God created the world out of nothing. I think that's the more interesting part of the story. Doesn't contemporary cosmology support that thesis (i.e., creation ex nihilo)?

[schmuck]

Why do you say bro that that means that the Bible got it wrong? With regard to the age of the earth, most Christians understand it figuratively, not a literal 7-day creation.

The Genesis account also tells it like this, that God created the world out of nothing. I think that's the more interesting part of the story. Doesn't contemporary cosmology support that thesis (i.e., creation ex nihilo)?

we are digressing from the topic...

[Traditz]

we are digressing from the topic...

Oh, are we, I'm sorry if we are.

Okay, to go back to the original point Chad made. I think he was saying that science can't disprove the non-existence of God, so I wondered whether he can really rely on science to give him the answer to the question of God's existence or non-existence.

Now, you said that science at least proves that the earth wasn't created in a few days or thousands of years. Well, most Christians would agree with you there. But what about the question of the earth's, or the universe's, origin? Doesn't contemporary science support the biblical account?

[schmuck]

Oh, are we, I'm sorry if we are.

Okay, to go back to the original point Chad made. I think he was saying that science can't disprove the non-existence of God, so I wondered whether he can really rely on science to give him the answer to the question of God's existence or non-existence.

Now, you said that science at least proves that the earth wasn't created in a few days or thousands of years. Well, most Christians would agree with you there. But what about the question of the earth's, or the universe's, origin? Doesn't contemporary science support the biblical account?

How convenient to discard the parts that are blatantly wrong, and then move on to another part, a part that can not be proven/dis-proven and then proceeding to put stilts of 'argument from ignorance' to hold it up.

but what has this got to do with the topic?

you can be a moral person without god.
heck, morals can be thrown out the window because of god gani.

[Traditz]

How convenient to discard the parts that are blatantly wrong, and then move on to another part, a part that can not be proven/dis-proven and then proceeding to put stilts of 'argument from ignorance' to hold it up.

How did you come to the conclusion that the account of the earth's age is blatantly wrong? How do you know that the author of Genesis did not intend it to mean figuratively?

What makes you say bro that the origin of the earth or the universe can't be proven nor dis-proven? I think there's one thing that we're reasonable to believe here, that the universe originated out of nothing. Don't you agree?

but what has this got to do with the topic?

you can be a moral person without god.
heck, morals can be thrown out the window because of god gani.

Okay, let's go back to the topic.

What do you mean by that bro, that a person can do acts that are objectively good or objectively bad without God?