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  1. #351

    Quote Originally Posted by dartzed View Post
    yes apil sad si Rizal ug iya wife FYI. hmmmmm mao lagot cya ug au sa Church..hehe(not sure though)

    of course they are better person jud.. but if padulong ka muapil nila try to ask them daw kinsa ang naggunit sa whole chapter or whatever they call it sa Pilipinas bilib ko nimo kung mkaila ka nila..hehe

    grand lodge cguro imo pasabot kung whole philippines, naa baya web site ila grand lodge, sayon ra pag-ila... sauna cgurong panahon no, nindot cguro ang pilipinas nga mga mason pa ang presidente, ambot lng kaha kung wala bay corruption d pareha karon

    i think it is not the church iya lagot, it is the spanish government, kung ang church man gani, it is the corruption of the church and the spanish friars... if you were alive during that time, do you think nga mo survive kaha ka sa oppression sa mga spaniards? d gyud ka mulaban nila ni rizal ky freemason baya sila? bahala na ug unsaon ta sa mga spaniards, d ka mutabang nila ni rizal ky mga mason

  2. #352
    Quote Originally Posted by skoilhp View Post
    grand lodge cguro imo pasabot kung whole philippines, naa baya web site ila grand lodge, sayon ra pag-ila... sauna cgurong panahon no, nindot cguro ang pilipinas nga mga mason pa ang presidente, ambot lng kaha kung wala bay corruption d pareha karon

    i think it is not the church iya lagot, it is the spanish government, kung ang church man gani, it is the corruption of the church and the spanish friars... if you were alive during that time, do you think nga mo survive kaha ka sa oppression sa mga spaniards? d gyud ka mulaban nila ni rizal ky freemason baya sila? bahala na ug unsaon ta sa mga spaniards, d ka mutabang nila ni rizal ky mga mason
    murag makatuo pako ani bro hehehe.. deli man ang church ang problem jud, actually kana ang church dali rman gud na iladon sad esp kana cge muhatag ug dagko nga donations sa ila.. mutan.aw sad bya nag utang kabubut.on ang simbahan sa tao bsag wala cya kbaw sa real intention sa tao.. well who knows man sad even kita deli ta kabaw jud..

  3. #353
    Quote Originally Posted by skoilhp View Post
    grand lodge cguro imo pasabot kung whole philippines, naa baya web site ila grand lodge, sayon ra pag-ila... sauna cgurong panahon no, nindot cguro ang pilipinas nga mga mason pa ang presidente, ambot lng kaha kung wala bay corruption d pareha karon

    i think it is not the church iya lagot, it is the spanish government, kung ang church man gani, it is the corruption of the church and the spanish friars... if you were alive during that time, do you think nga mo survive kaha ka sa oppression sa mga spaniards? d gyud ka mulaban nila ni rizal ky freemason baya sila? bahala na ug unsaon ta sa mga spaniards, d ka mutabang nila ni rizal ky mga mason

    Read your history and know it well then you will know what the church was before........

  4. #354
    bai... grandlodge = whole pinas yes..... a chapter as u call it = lodge.. grand lodge comprises members which is like the governing body which governs the whole masonic district in the phils.

  5. #355
    Quote Originally Posted by Jacobus View Post
    AND when did being excommunicated lead to being EVIL?

    I do not see any pure evidence that being a mason is Evil?


    I ask you sir.. Why do you bash or give ill tongued remarks towards masonry? What did masonry do to you?
    or Has masonry done anything to the Church to get this ill tongued words?


    And Who are you in this society to slander and give defaming words towards another member of this society....

    You might claim that you are a devote person... Ask you self this... In my whole life have i not made any wrong to my brothers and sister in this society?


    What you are doing on labeling a society which HAS never made wrong towards you and your family is against what a REAL Christian should be doing....
    ask yourself if you are doing evil or not...im just having my opinion, you got offended because you are mason??

    do you have any idea what you are talking about?

  6. #356
    Quote Originally Posted by bungot25 View Post
    do you have any idea what you are talking about?
    NO i am not a mason...... and YES i have alot more of knowledge of what i am talking about!!! do you?

    I have asked my self if i am doing evil or not... Yes i have done evil... And Have you?

    i am not a hypocrite that calls some other people evil... i know i have done evil in my life time...
    Last edited by Jacobus; 11-18-2009 at 10:26 PM.

  7. #357
    Quote Originally Posted by dartzed View Post
    murag makatuo pako ani bro hehehe.. deli man ang church ang problem jud, actually kana ang church dali rman gud na iladon sad esp kana cge muhatag ug dagko nga donations sa ila.. mutan.aw sad bya nag utang kabubut.on ang simbahan sa tao bsag wala cya kbaw sa real intention sa tao.. well who knows man sad even kita deli ta kabaw jud..
    so you think nga giving big donations ilad na nga then naa utang kabubut-on then something in return, unsa man makuha nila sa simbahan in return bi with their donations? d ba kaha ang simbahan nangilad ato, dawat dawat lng ug donation unya naa diay sa ila hunahuna daan nga kung mamatay ning generala ni nga mason d gyud nato ni tagaan ug mass ug burial rites bahalag pila pa ka daku ilang donation. nganong wala naman lng nila balibari daan ang mga donations? duna bai gihatag nga utang kabubut-on ang church ato nga sitwasyon?

  8. #358
    Quote Originally Posted by Jacobus View Post
    YES i have alot more of knowledge of what i am talking about!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! do you?
    knowledge of your own makes no difference at all...

  9. #359
    Quote Originally Posted by bungot25 View Post
    ask yourself if you are doing evil or not...im just having my opinion, you got offended because you are mason??

    do you have any idea what you are talking about?
    ikaw kasabot ka sa pangutana nako ako binisay.on ha?

    Nganu intawn mu tawag kag Evil sa mga mason unsa man di na buhat nila nimo? og ikaw wa di ka naka buhat og dautan?? ang mismo nimo g.buhat karon dautan na... kung huna2x.on nimo ang mismo pagtawag nimo og evil or dautan sa isi ka tao nimo dautan naman na part..

  10. #360
    Quote Originally Posted by bungot25 View Post
    i guess they were not aware of being excommunicated.
    kanang excommunication bro hinimo na lng na sa simbahan, gihimoan ug storya nga devil worshippers ang mga mason... kung buot hunahunaon... kadaghan na contribute ang mga mason sa humanity... kasagaran nga mga nasod in the whole world naka gain ug independence tungod sa mga freemasons apil na ang Pilipinas, mga freedom fighters (basin nakalimot ka unsay feeling ug way freedom), mga inventors, scientists, explorers, ug daghan pang contribution sa katawhan

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