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  1. #8741

    Talking g'dAy ACER's...


    Quote Originally Posted by markykoi View Post
    hahahaha

    try these guys:

    Lighting the Planted Tank | Rex's Guide to Planted Tanks

    Minimum Light Threshold | Watts Per Gallon | Rex's Guide to Planted Tanks

    Color temperature

    Color temperature refers to the Kelvin rating of the bulb, light has different color temperatures as shown in the chart below.

    Correct me if I am mistaken but I think the Kelvin refers to the temperature needed to heat a bar of lead to produce the same color.

    As seen on the chart, the lower the temperature the closer to red the color of light is, higher means closer to blue. To make it simple plants generally photosynthesize light with colors between 5,000 and 10,000 kelvin, if you look at the chart these are the “whites”. Mixing and matching different Kelvin bulbs produce better results.

    In planted tanks and generally in the lighting industry we have “colors of white”. This may sound weird at first but this simply refers to the different “whites” that are available for different applications.
    In example you might run in the following types of bulbs in ACE hardware, Cool White and Daylight.

    Coolwhite is 4,000 ++ Kelvin.
    Daylight is 6,000 ++ Kelvin.

    If you look at the cool white bulb it would generally appear normal or white, but beside a daylight bulb it would appear yellowish. The same thing will happen if you put a daylight bulb beside a skywhite bulb which is 8,000 kelvin.

    Remember the pinkish aquarium bulbs that we talked about earlier, these are specialist bulbs, even higher in the Kelvin scale, too high in fact for plants, if used on their own.

    In simple terms just use daylight for planted tanks and you will be safe. (6,500 kelvin), Why daylight bulbs?

    These are the reasons why.
    1) Readily available everywhere
    2) Relatively cheap vs specialist bulbs.



    Lighting a planted tank, I know first thing that would actually come into your mind is costs and effectivity of the lights that you use on the plants that you are planning to put on your planted aquarium.

    One thing I like about planted tank is that you could customize, you have options on what type of lighting, the intensity/watts or lumens, and you could be creative in setting up your lighting setups or even your hood.

    Our goal here is to simulate the sun. So basically we will be using daylight bulbs or fluorescent. And since our resources here in the Philippines especially here in Cebu is quite limited, we usually improvise. Those who has the upper hand would setup high tech lighting setup and for those who has limited resources will usually resort in DIYs (Do-It-Yourself). In my own opinion, it doesn't matter for me if you have the be$t lighting $etup or just the regular daylights, as long as you get the plants needs to show its potential then you are doing great already.

    Diri sa Cebu, usually atong makit-an ug common nowadays are the CFLs and more on T5s na. Although we have metal halides, but those are still very expensive and I think they have low kelvin ratings, most of them don't display that specs on their boxes gani. PLs are good, I was able to find some, well, China made.

    Right now, experienced aquarist nowadays are looking into the LED technology. LEDs are low in heat and low in energy consumption. Pero ang LED (superbright) available karon diri sa Cebu is not that bright jud so, you need a lot of it with a price to pay. Sa pagka karon, LEDs are used as night lights and also in moonlight for saltwater setup.

    So, be creative, I would really suggest to plan ahead, research on the plants that you are going to use and by that data, you could think about what type of lighting and intensity that you want to use on your planted setup.

    Goodluck and Godbless.
    AkO nEh E.Up kAy NICE kAyO.... TsALamAT TaTay mArkY....

    Quote Originally Posted by zhero_id View Post
    Bitaw sa, tsk tsk tsk, pang pc and non-planted aquarium diay ni ehhehe.

    by the way, asa ta maka palit og T5 nga taas og wattage?

    ang ako napalit kay 8w ra man ang bulb hehe.
    AsA nEmU nA.bUy Ang T5 nAh 8watt cOOLnErd.... ?

    Quote Originally Posted by marknicho View Post
    ang T5 is kung mag ka taas ang wattage mag taas pd ang length nya. f gnhn ka taas na wattage na lights and dli mag ka taas ang length, mag CFL nlng jd...
    AsA E.bUy AnG CFL... ?

    Quote Originally Posted by lyledu View Post
    pag HC nalang lage coolnerd.. hahahahah!
    nApA kAh HC nAnAy LyLe... ?

  2. #8742
    Quote Originally Posted by galactic armada View Post
    mga pips naa ko gidevelop ron na improvised tank chiller using TEM-ThermoElectric Module...currently naa na nako 75% sa materials needed sa paghimo apil na ang TEM na lisod kaau pangitaunon..hehehe...
    mao ni siya ang concept sa TEM sa pagpabognaw: Thermoelectric Modules
    mao ni siya angTEM: http://i.ehow.com/images/GlobalPhoto...-main_Full.jpg
    maau tah mo work ni siya!!!!
    wow..naa diay ta ACE R&D Division diria..sige develop new approach..

    Quote Originally Posted by Soggy2 View Post
    wow. this is nice. How is the energy efficiency? wala man gi mention; it just sez that the cooling capacity is directly proportional to the current applied. So puede diay butangan ug "dimmer" type switch to regulate temperature.
    if current control lang, ok kaayo..potentiometer barato ra..
    Quote Originally Posted by galactic armada View Post
    ako plan kay butangan nako og thermistor feedback, dili niya pahinayan ang current pero iya i off ang system kung moabot na sa imo g set na temp., iya nasad i on kung mo go below sa imo gi set na temp.

    ang naa nako na TEM is around 60-70W..kinit-an lang nako sa surplus shop..hehe
    kuyawa na jud oi..with matching feedback system pa..

    Quote Originally Posted by galactic armada View Post
    nindut nah dah...suroy nya ko sa sm..hehhehe..thanks sa info
    tiwasa nalang to TEM nimo para maka-learn sad ta something new..hehe

    Quote Originally Posted by Soggy2 View Post
    Paging the parents of a lost child. Please claim your child at the customer service section.
    basin paging the child of the lost parents?

  3. #8743
    Quote Originally Posted by hydrozam View Post
    AsA E.bUy AnG CFL... ?
    mora'g ang CFL ila pasabot ki kay kana rang ordinary na CFL..Compact Fluorescent Lamp ba..kana bitaw mora'g incandescent bulb pero fluorescent diay?
    kini ba->http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi..._retouched.jpg

  4. #8744
    Quote Originally Posted by hydrozam View Post
    A

    AsA E.bUy AnG CFL... ?
    available ni sila sa mga hardware bai, i recommend nga ang brand sa cfl kay either osram, philips or GE. unya kana jud daylight dili kato cool daylight etc, and aslo mas maayo kung kato spiral type nga cfl kay mas hayag compared to 3 u na cfl.... osram and ge brands usually sa ace and handyman available...

  5. #8745
    ahh, mas taas ang length sa T5 mas taas pod ang wattage, wa ko nag gamit og CFL kay murag init man gud.

    kung mag CFL need jud pa bugnaw sa tubig hehe

  6. #8746
    Quote Originally Posted by zhero_id View Post
    ahh, mas taas ang length sa T5 mas taas pod ang wattage, wa ko nag gamit og CFL kay murag init man gud.

    kung mag CFL need jud pa bugnaw sa tubig hehe
    mao lang disadvantag sa cfl kay ang temp niya. ako kay naa man ko fan sa ako hood.. average temp sa ako tank is 28- 30 C.. pero paspas pud lagi mo evaporate ang tubig.. hehe lisod pud ko t5 gud kay taas kayo manglabaw sa ako tanke.. hehe if i had a choice mag PL jud unta ko sa una.. lisod lang availability sa atoa..

  7. #8747
    kuyawan pod ko sa cfl kay naay mga trims c Master Lyle nga kusog mo tubo basi masunog nya kung molapas sa tubig hehehe, kinsay pahuwam og gabas diha kay mag assemble nako sa akong canopy karong gabie hehehe.

    akong nano naa nay duha ka T5 nga 8w kana lang sa cguro kung mo palit ko T5 dd2 na nako e butang sa 2ft nga aquarium, para ka isa ra gasto.


  8. #8748
    Quote Originally Posted by swordfishh View Post
    cge cge mag organize ta ug ACE photography club. dad-a inyo dslr inig trekking. mag collection tag river shoots.
    hahaha...pwede pd master, nice sad ni dah!

  9. #8749
    Quote Originally Posted by boomer887 View Post
    mao lang disadvantag sa cfl kay ang temp niya. ako kay naa man ko fan sa ako hood.. average temp sa ako tank is 28- 30 C.. pero paspas pud lagi mo evaporate ang tubig.. hehe lisod pud ko t5 gud kay taas kayo manglabaw sa ako tanke.. hehe if i had a choice mag PL jud unta ko sa una.. lisod lang availability sa atoa..
    diba pl is still CFL? trademarked by Phillips lang so PL for Phillips Lamp..wat i cant understand is why would PL be better than CFL? pasabta ko ninyo..hehe

  10. #8750
    tank ni siya or "tanke de gera" hahahaha

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