Any Business Is Better Than Your Call Center Job

[Hot Ice]

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kapansin lang ko ba.. ngano gimaliit man ninu ang trabaho nga salesman and ang skill nga salestalk..
mas lisod baya ang trabaho sa salesman kay sa callcenter.. kay sa callcenter you dont see your prospect/client.. sa field salesman, atubangay jud na.. kamo mga calcenter agents kung na depressed na mo kay nainsultohan mo sa nitawag, imagina nlang ang kanang field salesman nga nainsultuhan on thier faces..

dli maayo sa?

ang kaning thread title mura man og ni appear nga gimaliit ang pagka call center employee. Dli tanan nag trabaho sa Call Center kay Agent. Pwede pud ka maka taktak (directly or indirectly) og empleyado kung nag work ka sa call center, depende sa imung position.

[Pinkdimensions]

yati, bulabog ang show ba hehehehehe..

cge lang gihapon ka pangwarta sa "scandal" nga keyword pinkdimensions hab! lolz! ana gyud! gamit gyud nimo imong psych background ug HR industry experience to know that men are by nature gwapo! wahahahahaha!

[AmorsoloX]

dli maayo sa?

ang kaning thread title mura man og ni appear nga gimaliit ang pagka call center employee. Dli tanan nag trabaho sa Call Center kay Agent. Pwede pud ka maka taktak (directly or indirectly) og empleyado kung nag work ka sa call center, depende sa imung position.

i think mas maau ang title nga "any business has more potential than any high paying job"

i think mao call center agent gigamit sa TS kay mao man pinaka dako earnings with least qualifications.. (masdako pa gani kay sa uban professionals)

kanang makataktak og fellow employee dali ra na.. even if he/she is your superior.. have you heard of smear and blackmail? whahahahahaha (im so evil.. i love it)

[ohmygus]

asa na mn ang thread starter? la na mn lagi inputs?
murag nka-realize na sayop jd iya title sa thread.

[smartkid]

bitaw naay sayop si ts...kay kana bitaw maglako ug saging tundan bisnis man na pero dili sya mas maayo pa sa call center job in terms of income

[lorenzoleo]

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kapansin lang ko ba.. ngano gimaliit man ninu ang trabaho nga salesman and ang skill nga salestalk..
mas lisod baya ang trabaho sa salesman kay sa callcenter.. kay sa callcenter you dont see your prospect/client.. sa field salesman, atubangay jud na.. kamo mga calcenter agents kung na depressed na mo kay nainsultohan mo sa nitawag, imagina nlang ang kanang field salesman nga nainsultuhan on thier faces..

im proud to be a salesman oi.. isa lang nako ka commission mas taas pa sa pinakataas og sweldo nga agent.. and per transaction pa jud akoa.. i have my own real estate brokerage company diay.. (wa ko labot anang IMG but i still say nga nindot ang ila mga programs)

kung mag negosyo mo.. dapat salesman jud imo mentality.. the purpose of every business is to sell.. mao gamay ra mag negosyo kay ubos pagtanaw sa salesman.. (pero dili tanan panahon ha mag edvertise mo.. chill pud panagsa).. before selling any product, you should sell yourself, aka gain client's trust

..........up! I love it. Pang praktis ug self confidence kay atubangay jud ug client samot na insultuhon ka, pero I'm already use to it. So in any business venture I could go, "putol jud na sa espada". Ngilngig naman mo negotiate. Face to face jud ba, mao ng gusto jud ko makig face to face ug objections. Samot na imung kaatubang kay naay rank kay nimu. Gamay ra na tao maka sugakod ani. Mao ng murag magnisi na lang ko kanag insultuhon ka face to face. Ambot lang sad aning mga tao sa mu insulto man na wala man kay sala. Hahaha!

Hehehe! Pero inig close ug one transaction, aw buto2x sad ang commission. Hehehe! Samot kung naa kay ka team na ni follow sa imung style. Kanang commission na akong madawat naa na diha ang bayad sa mga insulto sa mga tao, kahago mag lakaw sa field, ug laway. Hehehe! Kinsa kahay gusto mu sugakod ani?(Condition : Basta kahibaw lang ka na cge kag buhat ani ma milionaryo ra ka) Come follow me. Worth it ra sad ng ma milionaryo ka puhon kay nisugakod gud kag mga indian sa imung mga amigo, insulto sa mga tao, ka init sa field, laway sa presentation. Basta ma overcome ni nimu na challenge ako ng ika guarantiya nimu mu successful ra ka basta consistent lang ug buhat ug dili ka mu quit.

Pero para nako enjoy man ang field.. Samot na naa kay ka team.

Tapos samot na ang kita gi save ug invest sa money markets, shyaro, double ang igo.
Shyarog dili pa ma milyonrayo at least fullfillment kaayo kay gikan jud sa imong effort, mga insults, mga indian, mahug pa kag dautan sa ilang mga mata pero ang balik million man sad samot na gi reinvest into money markets, Shyaro lagig dili pa ma financial independent.

[Blackjellybean27]

im here.. nyahahaha.. kung sa kanta pa, im too far away.. hahaha.. naa mi gishare nga common belief but naa pud mi difference..i can say hes got potential pero kana si lorenzoleo iya focus kay kana mang financial industry.. while ako, dire ko sa services industry aka construction,transportation.. and bit of manufacturing, so were an industry apart..

dili dapat ikaulaw ang mag employado pero di pud pasabot mag employado nalang jud ka kanunay.. unsa man imu i business kung wala ka capital diba? (both monetary and human capital), ayaw kalimti nga sa trabaho, naa ka sa kamot sa imo boss, kung gusto ka niya kick out. pwede kaau.. wala ka mahimo ana.. and also, all businesses reserves the right to hire/fire employees to maximise profit..

ang business dako kaau potential.. ako earnings sa tanan nako venture kay 7-figure number.. ako gasto kay, well.. 7-figure number pud.. ang nkalahi lang kay if ang businessman ma sipyat. dako kaau damage.. greater risk haev greater rewards.. depende nlang kung unsa ka isog..

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kapansin lang ko ba.. ngano gimaliit man ninu ang trabaho nga salesman and ang skill nga salestalk..
mas lisod baya ang trabaho sa salesman kay sa callcenter.. kay sa callcenter you dont see your prospect/client.. sa field salesman, atubangay jud na.. kamo mga calcenter agents kung na depressed na mo kay nainsultohan mo sa nitawag, imagina nlang ang kanang field salesman nga nainsultuhan on thier faces..

im proud to be a salesman oi.. isa lang nako ka commission mas taas pa sa pinakataas og sweldo nga agent.. and per transaction pa jud akoa.. i have my own real estate brokerage company diay.. (wa ko labot anang IMG but i still say nga nindot ang ila mga programs)

kung mag negosyo mo.. dapat salesman jud imo mentality.. the purpose of every business is to sell.. mao gamay ra mag negosyo kay ubos pagtanaw sa salesman.. (pero dili tanan panahon ha mag edvertise mo.. chill pud panagsa).. before selling any product, you should sell yourself, aka gain client's trust

oi welcome back to the uhmmmm debate bro! bwahahaha! naa pa gihapon tanan na tawo dri na thread. LOL!
ikaw noh, maglibog jud ko nimo... always man ka mag bawi sa mga chicka nimo diri.. remember sa first threads nimo, d jud ka ganahan sa empleyado.. as in super duper di jud.. karon g retract mo na by saying di dapat ikaulaw ang empleyado.
2nd, ingon ka you can start a business with nothing. "unsa man imu i business kung wala ka capital diba?" karon k you said naa jud capital. nag read man ko sa thread mo na starting a biz with nothing. wrong gihapon bro, k d jud sya nothing. if i remember correctly huh, and please correct me if i am wrong okay.. to get a broker's license, dba you need to pay up an amount pa like a thousand or five thousand... cash bond i think tawag ana...
d jud pwd mag business ka without capital, yes both monetary and human resource.. so it's really something isn't it? definitely not nothing.. yes, your capital was mostly your PR skills, but you required the help of others for the monetary capital as well.. (sorry if gbalik nako.. nag point out lang ko about starting with nothing... k d jud logical to start something with nothing...)
3rd, i say we have nothing against salesmen oi.. nag point out cla k lorenzoleo that he is not a real businessman jd in that sense... k agent ra intawn sya.. aw, the fancy word is financial consultant if i remember right.. meaning employed gihapon in the truest sense.. so there, we dont have anything against salesmen and sales talk... it's more like nag ask kmi niya where sya nag base ng arguments niya na mas nindot jud ang business, k he's not a businessman like you are...
speaking about that, and I'm not gonna name companies here ha... fancy words like financial consultant, financial adviser are literally just fancy words made up by the PR team of certain companies to make the employees feel as if it's a different thing.. LIke, "Oh no, we're not that 'cause we have this, we have that... we dont do this, we dont do that" Those companies studied ways on how to get people to think na different cla from other companies.. Nakasuway gani ko call center agent before and we were called, financial consultants... in truth, agents gihapon feelers lang.. hehehe.. Believe me, those are MARKETING STRATEGIES meant to engage more people in their businesses.. I know so.. I studied PR, marketing, media management and all that chuvaness...
4th, naka try naka being a call center agent? especially sales agent taking calls? I don't think so. Yes, it's true that sales people who have to sell personally get insulted to their face... But do you know that it is actually easier to convince people when you're face to face, than to convince people on the phone? Imagine, you're actually describing a product that possibly neither of you has seen... To make things easier to understand at what I'm getting at, try mo make ligaw sa girl on the phone lang.. as in sell yourself and all sa phone lang.. no personal pa effect.. the girl would most likely say, can we continue this in person? or can we do this face to face... Dba lisod?
Also, don't even forget that with any business naa pod ka sa mercy ng economy... anytime, your business can come crashing down... a multi million or even a multi billion company can still go bankrupt.. So pareho lng sya sa employed, in that sense na, we really dont have complete control over anything...
Anyway, this is just my thoughts.. padayon sa pag debate.. hehehe

[lorenzoleo]

Wala na man ni balik ang TS. Hekhekhek! Murag nag ka lami na ang discussions diri dah. Hekhekhek!
TS where are you?

[lorenzoleo]

oi welcome back to the uhmmmm debate bro! bwahahaha! naa pa gihapon tanan na tawo dri na thread. LOL!
ikaw noh, maglibog jud ko nimo... always man ka mag bawi sa mga chicka nimo diri.. remember sa first threads nimo, d jud ka ganahan sa empleyado.. as in super duper di jud.. karon g retract mo na by saying di dapat ikaulaw ang empleyado.
2nd, ingon ka you can start a business with nothing. "unsa man imu i business kung wala ka capital diba?" karon k you said naa jud capital. nag read man ko sa thread mo na starting a biz with nothing. wrong gihapon bro, k d jud sya nothing. if i remember correctly huh, and please correct me if i am wrong okay.. to get a broker's license, dba you need to pay up an amount pa like a thousand or five thousand... cash bond i think tawag ana...
d jud pwd mag business ka without capital, yes both monetary and human resource.. so it's really something isn't it? definitely not nothing.. yes, your capital was mostly your PR skills, but you required the help of others for the monetary capital as well.. (sorry if gbalik nako.. nag point out lang ko about starting with nothing... k d jud logical to start something with nothing...)
3rd, i say we have nothing against salesmen oi.. nag point out cla k lorenzoleo that he is not a real businessman jd in that sense... k agent ra intawn sya.. aw, the fancy word is financial consultant if i remember right.. meaning employed gihapon in the truest sense.. so there, we dont have anything against salesmen and sales talk... it's more like nag ask kmi niya where sya nag base ng arguments niya na mas nindot jud ang business, k he's not a businessman like you are...
speaking about that, and I'm not gonna name companies here ha... fancy words like financial consultant, financial adviser are literally just fancy words made up by the PR team of certain companies to make the employees feel as if it's a different thing.. LIke, "Oh no, we're not that 'cause we have this, we have that... we dont do this, we dont do that" Those companies studied ways on how to get people to think na different cla from other companies.. Nakasuway gani ko call center agent before and we were called, financial consultants... in truth, agents gihapon feelers lang.. hehehe.. Believe me, those are MARKETING STRATEGIES meant to engage more people in their businesses.. I know so.. I studied PR, marketing, media management and all that chuvaness...
4th, naka try naka being a call center agent? especially sales agent taking calls? I don't think so. Yes, it's true that sales people who have to sell personally get insulted to their face... But do you know that it is actually easier to convince people when you're face to face, than to convince people on the phone? Imagine, you're actually describing a product that possibly neither of you has seen... To make things easier to understand at what I'm getting at, try mo make ligaw sa girl on the phone lang.. as in sell yourself and all sa phone lang.. no personal pa effect.. the girl would most likely say, can we continue this in person? or can we do this face to face... Dba lisod?
Also, don't even forget that with any business naa pod ka sa mercy ng economy... anytime, your business can come crashing down... a multi million or even a multi billion company can still go bankrupt.. So pareho lng sya sa employed, in that sense na, we really dont have complete control over anything...
Anyway, this is just my thoughts.. padayon sa pag debate.. hehehe

Hekhekehk! Ok bahala nag bisan unsay inyo isulti nako whether salesman or what so ever dili nako mag pa affect ana, basta ang importante habang nag cge ko ug debate diri nga thread nag cge sad kog accumulate ug shares. Hehehe! Anyway goodluck sa imu career. Wala gihapon na waste akong time. Mas na lingaw hinuon ko cge tanaw diri habang cge ug accumulate ug assets.

Nindot ni para mas mu sikat pa ang istorya.net. Hehehe!

[Blackjellybean27]

..........up! I love it. Pang praktis ug self confidence kay atubangay jud ug client samot na insultuhon ka, pero I'm already use to it. So in any business venture I could go, "putol jud na sa espada". Ngilngig naman mo negotiate. Face to face jud ba, mao ng gusto jud ko makig face to face ug objections. Samot na imung kaatubang kay naay rank kay nimu. Gamay ra na tao maka sugakod ani. Mao ng murag magnisi na lang ko kanag insultuhon ka face to face. Ambot lang sad aning mga tao sa mu insulto man na wala man kay sala. Hahaha!

Hehehe! Pero inig close ug one transaction, aw buto2x sad ang commission. Hehehe! Samot kung naa kay ka team na ni follow sa imung style. Kanang commission na akong madawat naa na diha ang bayad sa mga insulto sa mga tao, kahago mag lakaw sa field, ug laway. Hehehe! Kinsa kahay gusto mu sugakod ani?(Condition : Basta kahibaw lang ka na cge kag buhat ani ma milionaryo ra ka) Come follow me. Worth it ra sad ng ma milionaryo ka puhon kay nisugakod gud kag mga indian sa imung mga amigo, insulto sa mga tao, ka init sa field, laway sa presentation. Basta ma overcome ni nimu na challenge ako ng ika guarantiya nimu mu successful ra ka basta consistent lang ug buhat ug dili ka mu quit.

Pero para nako enjoy man ang field.. Samot na naa kay ka team.

Tapos samot na ang kita gi save ug invest sa money markets, shyaro, double ang igo.

Guys, I'd really like to introduce you to a girl who's a call center agent and definitely earning a loooot! as in imagine, sit there and talk, gamay na insulto from the people, wala jud hago from making lakaw sa field... aside from their basic salary, they have commissions man gud... that's why... believe me, its not small commissions ha...
Anyway, naa dira daghan na call center agents whos earning more... ask around, use your so called social networking connections.. I can swear to you, they're there...
I'll try if we can get hold of her payslip.. but it might violate something sa contract na gi sign.. that thing na they sign, na they cant tell anybody about their salary, etc... but let's see lang okay.. ako i'm just giving proof... or rather will try to..
Up to the people to decide then, whether having a business is better than a call center job, since that is what it's all about right?
again, I'm not saying im anti biz ha..
I just dont want people looking down on call center agents or the employed. period.