My GF is my second cousin. . .

[BornBad666]

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stev08(page10):guys.. my mother and her mother are both 1st cousin, so we are 2nd degree cousin..


@steve08: inconsistent man ka bai wala diay kay sure kung ika pila mo nga ig-agaw?bai 1st cousin man kaha imong mother and her mother so kamo kay 2nd cousins(not second degree)

@etzina: mao pud na akong gi explain ni squall_slx01 sa previous page nga lahi rana ang ang 2nd cousin and second degree cousin pero mo insist man jd xa nga the same ra daw na kapoy kau sige balik2x tubag pasagdan nalang nako

Amigo nimo etzina? Regards ko be kung bae. Wakokokokokokokokokok!!
kapoy balus? Ayaw balus! Wakikikikikik!!

[Squall_slx01]

stev08(page10):guys.. my mother and her mother are both 1st cousin, so we are 2nd degree cousin..


@steve08: inconsistent man ka bai wala diay kay sure kung ika pila mo nga ig-agaw?bai 1st cousin man kaha imong mother and her mother so kamo kay 2nd cousins(not second degree)

@etzina: mao pud na akong gi explain ni squall_slx01 sa previous page nga lahi rana ang ang 2nd cousin and second degree cousin pero mo insist man jd xa nga the same ra daw na kapoy kau sige balik2x tubag pasagdan nalang nako

I stand by what I said. Besides, reliable man ako sources pud. Lawyers who are adept to the civil code as well as the family code.
ngano man diay gi kapoy ka? Unsay palabot nako? Basta naka sulti ko sa na hibaw.an nako. Here's something worth repeating "outdated" tong article 37 nimo. Basa daw og updated version sa Civil Code PARAS 2008 or latest if naa. How about reading the previous conversation.

Originally Posted by etzina
you didn't read, did you? start reading and quit yapping, smarty pants.... "bright eyes" ? that doesn't make any sense, unless you're referring to a song....

it doesn't mean that when most people think 2nd cousins and 2nd degree cousins are the same, that it's correct.. i suggest you guys study polsci or ask any lawyer/polsci teacher about this...

at TS: if you both have the same great grandparent then you guys are 2nd cousins (not 2nd degree cousins).... kay if mu ingon ka 2nd degree mo, then by law di mo pwede... but if 2nd cousins mo (if i counted correctly 6th degree namo, then pwede mo by law)...


Originally Posted by Squall_slx01
You know, naa pud bya point si elocin. Imo raman gi repeat ako gi sulti na second cousins are second degree cousins.

Bisag unsaun na nimo pag tan.aw, either mag himo ka og family tree starting sa great grandfather or sa grandfather lang, second degree cousins ra bya gihapon mo gawas after first degree cousins.

ingon pud ka ang second cousin kay 6th civil degree. correct na.
but it proved also that the second cousins are second degree cousin
coz they both belong in the 6th civil degree.

Meaning second cousins and second degree cousins are the same.

[katy_aryan]

1st cuzin ra may bawal sa law hehehe...ok ra jud na....hhehehe

[elocin]

stev08(page10):guys.. my mother and her mother are both 1st cousin, so we are 2nd degree cousin..


@steve08: inconsistent man ka bai wala diay kay sure kung ika pila mo nga ig-agaw?bai 1st cousin man kaha imong mother and her mother so kamo kay 2nd cousins(not second degree)

@etzina: mao pud na akong gi explain ni squall_slx01 sa previous page nga lahi rana ang ang 2nd cousin and second degree cousin pero mo insist man jd xa nga the same ra daw na kapoy kau sige balik2x tubag pasagdan nalang nako

Look at it this way chuck_

1. you
2. Parents - 1st civil degree
3. Grandparents - 2nd civil degree
4. Great grandparents - 3rd civil degree
5. grand/great uncle/Auntie - 4th civil degree
6. Uncle/Auntie - 5th civil degree
7. 2nd cousin - 6th civil degree

Now look at it as a family tree, assuming theres theres only one offspring per generation to simplify things.

----------------Great grandparents-------------------
-------------------------I---------------------------
-----I ---------------------------------------I-------
Grandparents--------Siblings--------Great uncle/Auntie
-----I----------------------------------------I-------
Parents--------1st degree cousins---------Uncle/auntie - a.k.a 1st cousins.
-----I----------------------------------------I-------
---You-------2nd degree cousins-------2nd cousin-----

Now this table show's "you" as a 1st cousin and the tree start's from
your grandparents.

--------------------grandparents--------------------
-------------------------I---------------------------
-----I ---------------------------------------I-------
--Parents-------------Siblings------------uncle/Auntie
-----I----------------------------------------I-------
--- You---------1st degree cousins----------Cousin---- a.k.a 1st cousins.
-----I----------------------------------------I-------
Your child-------2nd degree cousins-------2nd cousin

Case in point, 2nd cousins are 2nd degree cousins. their the same.

[sonza9]

Maybe ha, maybe.... if you will have a child in the future basi naay defects 'coz blood related kamo but gamay raman ang chances coz 2nd cousin naman kayo.

[etzina]

Look at it this way chuck_

1. you
2. Parents - 1st civil degree
3. Grandparents - 2nd civil degree
4. Great grandparents - 3rd civil degree
5. grand/great uncle/Auntie - 4th civil degree
6. Uncle/Auntie - 5th civil degree
7. 2nd cousin - 6th civil degree

Now look at it as a family tree, assuming theres theres only one offspring per generation to simplify things.

----------------Great grandparents-------------------
-------------------------I---------------------------
-----I ---------------------------------------I-------
Grandparents--------Siblings--------Great uncle/Auntie
-----I----------------------------------------I-------
Parents--------1st degree cousins---------Uncle/auntie - a.k.a 1st cousins.
-----I----------------------------------------I-------
---You-------2nd degree cousins-------2nd cousin-----

Now this table show's "you" as a 1st cousin and the tree start's from
your grandparents.

--------------------grandparents--------------------
-------------------------I---------------------------
-----I ---------------------------------------I-------
--Parents-------------Siblings------------uncle/Auntie
-----I----------------------------------------I-------
--- You---------1st degree cousins----------Cousin---- a.k.a 1st cousins.
-----I----------------------------------------I-------
Your child-------2nd degree cousins-------2nd cousin

Case in point, 2nd cousins are 2nd degree cousins. their the same.

great chart you got there.... but where's your source showing us nga "degrees" jud ni?

[Forgotten-Isle]

support man ko ani, if love ninyo each other fight for it. But the law remains the law

Art. 81. Marriages between the following are incestuous and void from their performance, whether the relationship between the parties be legitimate or illegitimate:
(1) Between ascendants and descendants of any degree;
(2) Between brothers and sisters, whether of the full or half blood;
(3) Between collateral relatives by blood within the fourth civil degree.

[maddox_pitt]

We are together for almost 2 years ryt nw, from the start we already knew that we are blood related but our feelings just develope every day everytime we are together!!! WE love each other so much and planning to have a family one day! Is that posible to do what would i do to make it possible!!!

i dont wanna be judgmental..pero from my point of view, i dont think it's a good idea to go for ur cousin....

kay 2nd cousins, close pa na kaau...
nya dako ang chance sa recessive traits ninyo na ma.dominant..luoy ang bata if ever...

pero, if di jud mo kapugong, well, ang anak ni arroyo ana man sad...

[maddox_pitt]

accdg to wiki
Chart relationships as sentences

Reminder: the closest relationship prevails — note that cousinship is not calculated between individuals when one is descended from the other; for example, two individuals are not called cousins if they are any degree of grandparent, parent or child. Also, cousinship is not calculated between individuals of any degree of aunt/uncle and nephew/niece relationship to each other.

* If we share the same parents we are siblings
* If we share grandparents but have different parents we are first cousins
* If we share great-grandparents but have different grandparents we are second cousins
* If my grandparents are your great-grandparents (or vice versa) we are first cousins once removed

* My parent's sibling is my aunt/uncle
* My grandparent's sibling is my grandaunt/granduncle or great-aunt/-uncle

Similarly

* My sibling's child is my nephew/niece
* My sibling's grandchild is my grandnephew / grandniece

* My first cousin's child and I are first cousins once removed (one generation difference between us)
* My first cousin's grandchild and I are first cousins twice removed (two generations difference between us)

Similarly

* My parent's first cousin and I are first cousins once removed (one generation difference between us)
* My grandparent's first cousin and I are first cousins twice removed (two generations difference between us)

* My second cousin's child and I are second cousins once removed (one generation difference between us)
* My second cousin's grandchild and I are second cousins twice removed (two generations difference between us)

Similarly

* My parent's second cousin and I are second cousins once removed (one generation difference between us)
* My grandparent's second cousin and I are second cousins twice removed (two generations difference between us)

* My third cousin's child and I are third cousins once removed (one generation difference between us)
* My third cousin's grandchild and I are third cousins twice removed (two generations difference between us)

Similarly

* My parent's third cousin and I are third cousins once removed (one generation difference between us)
* My grandparent's third cousin and I are third cousins twice removed (two generations difference between us)

Following this pattern, it can be determined that xth cousin y-times removed means either of the following:

* The xth cousin of your direct ancestor y generations previously (eg. your great-grandparent's fifth cousin is your fifth cousin thrice removed); or
* Your xth cousin's direct descendant y generations away (e.g. your fifth cousin's great-grandchild is also your fifth cousin thrice removed)

ito from wiki pa din

Catholicism

In the Roman Catholic Church, unwittingly marrying a closely-consanguinious blood relative is grounds for an annulment, but in past eras dispensations were often granted. The Roman Catholic Church's ban on marriage within the fourth degree of relationship (first cousins) lasted from 1550 to 1917;[citation needed] before that, the prohibition was to marriages between as much as seventh degree of kinship, this between 1059 and 1215.[1] In addition, for the same period, marriages involving affinity (kin by marriage, or indeed by fornication) up to the seventh degree were also prohibited, which meant that a great percentage of marriages in the small communities of the time, and also among royal and noble families, required a dispensation, for which payment to the Church was often required.[citation needed] Now only the first degree of affinity (marrying a stepchild for example) is prohibited.

The relevant Latin Rite Canon Law in force since 1983 is as follows:

Can. 108

1. Consanguinity is computed through lines and degrees.
2. In the direct line there are as many degrees as there are generations or persons, not counting the common ancestor.
3. In the collateral line there are as many degrees as there are persons in both the lines together, not counting the common ancestor.

Can. 109

1. Affinity arises from a valid marriage, even if not consummated, and exists between a man and the blood relatives of the woman and between the woman and the blood relatives of the man.
2. It is so computed that those who are blood relatives of the man are related in the same line and degree by affinity to the woman, and vice versa.

Can. 110

Children who have been adopted according to the norm of civil law are considered the children of the person or persons who have adopted them.

Can. 1091

1. In the direct line of consanguinity marriage is invalid between all ancestors and descendants, both legitimate and natural.
2. In the collateral line marriage is invalid up to and including the fourth degree.
3. The impediment of consanguinity is not multiplied.
4. A marriage is never permitted if doubt exists whether the partners are related by consanguinity in any degree of the direct line or in the second degree of the collateral line.

Can. 1092

Affinity in the direct line in any degree invalidates a marriage.

Can. 1093

The impediment of public propriety arises from an invalid marriage after the establishment of common life or from notorious or public concubinage. It nullifies marriage in the first degree of the direct line between the man and the blood relatives of the woman, and vice versa.

Can. 1094

Those who are related in the direct line or in the second degree of the collateral line by a legal relationship arising from adoption cannot contract marriage together validly.

Canons 1091.2, 1092, 1093, 1094 represent dispensable ecclesiastical law, and as such do not apply to the marriage of two non-Catholics per canon 11.
The Eastern Church

Until the 20th century the Russian Orthodox Church explicitly prohibited marriage within seven degrees of kinship. Many Old Believer groups maintain the prohibition to this day. Nevertheless, sexual relations between in-laws (in particular, snokhachestvo) were fairly common in Imperial Russia.

Cypriot Orthodox Church

Marriages are not allowed between second cousins or closer and between second uncles / aunts and second nieces / nephews (between first cousins once removed) or closer. Also, marriages that produce children that are closer genetic relatives than legal are also not permitted (unless the genetic relationship does allow marriage between those children). For example, two siblings may not marry two other siblings because legally their children will be cousins, but genetically they'll be half-siblings. On the other hand, two siblings may marry two cousins.
[edit] Church of England

The Church of England traditionally follows the rules set out in the Book of Common Prayer which includes a "Table of Kindred and Affinity". This states that:

A Man may not marry his mother, daughter, adopted daughter, father's mother, mother's mother, son's daughter, daughter's daughter, sister, wife's mother, wife's daughter, father's wife, son's wife, father's father's wife, mother's father's wife, wife's father's mother, wife's mother's mother, wife's daughter's daughter, wife's son's daughter, son's son's wife, daughter's son's wife, father's sister, mother's sister, brother's daughter, sister's daughter.

A Woman may not marry with her father, son, adopted son, father's father, mother's father, son's son, daughter's son, brother, husband's father, husband's son, mother's husband, daughter's husband, father's mother's husband, mother's mother's husband, husband's father's father, husband's mother's father, husband's son's son, husband's daughter's son, son's daughter's husband, daughter's daughter's husband, father's brother, mother's brother, brother's son, sister's son.

It further states that the term 'brother' includes a brother of the half-blood, and the term 'sister' includes a sister of the half-blood.
Asian cultures


Up until recently, in certain Asian cultures, it was forbidden to marry those with the same surname regardless of relations. These clan marriages were considered incestuous. However, first cousins with different surnames were allowed to marry. For example, one can marry their mother's sibling's child, but could not marry a non-blood related stranger because having the same surname was considered as having the same ancestor. However, these rules were not clearly defined. In Korean culture for example, surnames were designated by region as well as the name itself. So, a "Kim" family originating from a northern region was not considered the same as one that originated from a southern region, making marriage between the two allowable.

Until quite recently in South Korea, it was forbidden to marry anyone closer than the eighth degree of kin.

[potterboy]

Same thing happened to me years back. Grabe ang reaction sa amo family. Close man gud kaau. Everyone was against it. Nagkabuwag ra gyud mi tungod sa ilang paglisud-lisod sa amoa.

Hehehehe...