Could The Bible and Science Both be Correct?

[jamesmusslewhite]

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This just might be the most insightful post made to date.

[kebotDiNaMute]

actually, my proof is very simple..

who wrote the Bible?

Did the authors of the Bible say they will formulate scientific principles and write in down inside the Bible?

kamo ra man ang ga-timo2x diha.. buhat2x ug inyong false claims..

kung sa cookbook pani blue... sa ato pa mo ingon gani ang cookbook:

add 1 tbsp of sugar
add 2 tbsp of salt
add 1 glass water

di ni cya math? dba ni arithmetic? well ang sugar dili, pero ang "add 1"... unsa diay ni blue? tagna tagna? hahaha! pag sure blue oi..

in relation sa book, yes it mentioned something to describe the amount, attributes and volume... and yes there are math in it... when they created the NOAHS ark.. there are PRECISE DIMENSIONS. they cannot mention Foot/Feet because those words were not yet available at that time... and yes bible scholars made an estimate... if you question the estimate well you are moving in a wrong direction... "they were instructed to build it with those dimension" regardles how big how small... scientist calculate it similar to the modern ship dimension.

Nag trial and error sila sa una? hmmmm.. ambot lang but yes, it floated. So stop floating around.. the flood is already gone...

[Malic]

yeah riiiigghhtt.. why would I be paranoid of you? you honestly think that I would be afraid of you? in your dreams..

anyway, for as long as you cannot give a sensible response.. you're really not fun to talk with anymore..

let me clarify this bluedes.

when i say don't be paranoid, it is meant to refute your assumption nga namersonal ko.

afraid of me? ngano diay bluedes did i threaten you? don't paint a picture that isnt there. nobody is threatening you bluedes, so don't say something like that.

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actually, my proof is very simple..

who wrote the Bible?

Did the authors of the Bible say they will formulate scientific principles and write in down inside the Bible?

kamo ra man ang ga-timo2x diha.. buhat2x ug inyong false claims..

thats not a proof. thats a question.

sorry bro, i'm just sharing to you the truth of the matter..

here's one proof that you left out:

...statements about the physical world made by science and religion rely on different methodologies. Science relies on the scientific method as a body of techniques used for investigating natural phenomena. To be termed scientific, a claim must be based on observable, empirical, and measurable evidence, which is subject to systematic principles of reasoning.[30][31]

Source: Wikipedia, Science and the Bible

if you want to continue believing in your lies that the Bible really contains scientific principles, go ahead, i'm not forcing you to stop..

thats not a proof. thats a statement of comparison ,and the source is wiki.

[bluedes]

i'm sorry if you guys find my way of presenting the facts a little bit offensive..

i'm just trying to share knowledge here.. i did not make up the knowledge i put in my posts..

the concepts you are presenting mislead other people.. so I'm just putting a minor correction..

it seems that we really don't like corrections, because most of the times, our egos are touched..
i'm sorry if my posts touched your ego in some way that you found uneasy..



as for the title of the topic: Could Science and Bible be both correct?

Well yeah, why not, they can be both correct for all I care.. I don't know if they are both correct or they argue with each other.. Yes, there are some scientific principles that coincide with the verses in the Bible, but you will only get to this understanding if you have read the scientific version which came from scientists.. otherwise, you will have no idea how to interpret the Bible anymore.

Bible interpretation is a risky business.. it created lots of wars and conflicts in history..

I'm just clarifying that scientific principles do not come from the Bible, they come from Science. So try not to mislead by posting such claims that the Bible contains scientific principles, because it does not. When you make the Bible an authority of the public/masses, you will just repeat history in the making.

(That's why there is separation of Bible and State, because the Bible does not contain State Laws) and for the same reason there's also the separation of Bible and Science. Because they do not mix. They may agree with each other, but they cannot mix. Not now at least.. maybe in the future..

let me clarify this bluedes.

when i say don't be paranoid, it is meant to refute your assumption nga namersonal ko.

afraid of me? ngano diay bluedes did i threaten you? don't paint a picture that isnt there. nobody is threatening you bluedes, so don't say something like that.

I'm not paranoid bro.. why would I be.. well, it seems you're addressing me by my nick again.. whatever suits your fancy.. I hope you got the satisfaction that you were seeking.. don't worry, your secret is safe Mr. [strike](deleted)[/strike] it's really both funny and flattering that you would go thread that path for mere arguments here.. unlike some people, I don't go personal..

this is a public forum.. don't take things personally here..

take care of yourself wherever you go.


Anyway, finals is drawing near, and I'll be busy studying my brains out again..
have fun y'all! (southern accent)


P.S. You obviously don't know the methods of proof.. *tsk *tsk

[jamesmusslewhite]

i'm sorry if you guys find my way of presenting the facts a little bit offensive..
Offensive? No, I keep the members on this forum pissed off.

as for the title of the topic: Could Science and Bible be both correct?

Well yeah, why not, they can be both correct for all I care.. I don't know if they are both correct or they argue with each other.. Yes, there are some scientific principles that coincide with the verses in the Bible, but you will only get to this understanding if you have read the scientific version which came from scientists.. otherwise, you will have no idea how to interpret the Bible anymore.
They are only fighting over the Timelines, and the Great Flood. Everything else they are saying the same thing.

Bible interpretation is a risky business.. it created lots of wars and conflicts in history..
Only when Stupid people read it, and dumber people refuse to read it and choose rather only to listen to the stupid ones.

(That's why there is separation of Bible and State, because the Bible does not contain State Laws) and for the same reason there's also the separation of Bible and Science. Because they do not mix. They may agree with each other, but they cannot mix. Not now at least.. maybe in the future..
Science still needs to grow up a little bit, it is still too young to answer some of the really big questions.

Anyway, finals is drawing near, and I'll be busy studying my brains out again..
have fun y'all! (southern accent)
Well I hope you Ace them all, and from a Texas boy now living in Surigao. Hope school life is treating you well over yonder way.

Good luck with your studies, school can be some of the best times of your life.

[Malic]

I'm not paranoid bro.. why would I be.. well, it seems you're addressing me by my nick again.. whatever suits your fancy.. I hope you got the satisfaction that you were seeking.. don't worry, your secret is safe Mr. [strike](deleted)[/strike] it's really both funny and flattering that you would go thread that path for mere arguments here.. unlike some people, I don't go personal..

this is a public forum.. don't take things personally here..

here you go again, painting a picture that doesnt exist. dili ni personalan bluedes, im calling you bluedes again cos i was thinking nga hopeless na nga mobalik pa si john.

you don't get personal? really? review your posts.

what secret? my name? why would it be a secret? anyone who would ask for my name surely i would tell them. just ask...

take care of yourself wherever you go.


Anyway, finals is drawing near, and I'll be busy studying my brains out again..
have fun y'all! (southern accent)




P.S. You obviously don't know the methods of proof.. *tsk *tsk

lets see, you were asked to give a proof and what did you give? nothing. too much rationalization can kill the effectiveness of the brain to think within the bounds of what we call normal.

have a nice day bluedes and i hope you will see the brigther side of what happened between us. As my old soul friend(you know who you are) puts it, everything happened for a purpose let us just see the brighter side of it.

[vanix09]

BOTH be correct?? of course.. its possible.. hehe.. XD

[skoilhp]

The scientists tell us that the ether is charged with electricity, magnetism, light rays, X rays, cosmic rays, and other dynamic radiations; that it is the source of all life, light, heat, energy, gravitation, attraction, repulsion; in short, that it is the interpenetrating essence of everything that exists on the earth. In other words, science gives to the ether all the attractions of heaven without directly saying so. Jesus epitomized the subject when He told His followers that it was the kingdom from which God clothed and fed all His children. "Seek ye first his kingdom, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you." Science says that the electrical particles that break into light in our earth's atmosphere are also a source of all substance and matter. Jesus said that He was the substance and bread that came from the heavens. When will our civilization begin really to appropriate and use this mighty ocean of substance and life spiritually as well as physically?

Prosperity, by Charles Fillmore, 1936

[bluedes]

here you go again, painting a picture that doesnt exist. dili ni personalan bluedes, im calling you bluedes again cos i was thinking nga hopeless na nga mobalik pa si john.

you don't get personal? really? review your posts.

what secret? my name? why would it be a secret? anyone who would ask for my name surely i would tell them. just ask...

umm.. first of all, referring to forumers by their first names here is somewhat disallowed as it will be viewed as a personal agenda.. read the rules bro.. so that you'll understand where i'm coming from..

hopeless na mubalik si john? i'm always here..
i never get personal.. a lot of people misconstrue my posts as personal, but they're not. they're just highly intellectual and sometimes, viewed even as "intellectual anger", but they're not directed to you personally.. they're directed at your behavior and actions and choice of words, but never directed at you as a person..

unfortunately, people are so attached to their own behavior, actions or even words, that they think their person is being attacked..

lets see, you were asked to give a proof and what did you give? nothing. too much rationalization can kill the effectiveness of the brain to think within the bounds of what we call normal.

have a nice day bluedes and i hope you will see the brigther side of what happened between us. As my old soul friend(you know who you are) puts it, everything happened for a purpose let us just see the brighter side of it.

too much rationalization can kill the effectiveness of the brain? did you just make that up to sound like you have a point?

you are not aware of the methods of proof.. that's obvious.. if you want to discuss points and proofs of claims, then at least get acquainted with the methods of proof para dili pud ka mawala kung unsa ang discussion about..

the brighter side of things? hmmm.. honestly, i dont understand why you even bring such..
do you really want me to cross-analyze your behavior? i'm just holding back my cross-analysis because I don't want to cripple you intellectually.. you'll hate me if i give you answers you do not like..

[ace_ndahouse]

aint correct.. because they all just want to be the top one to be the real "DEAL" here.. as if they want it all... thats all...