The bible may not be a book of science, but it took almost 2,000 years to discover what that which inspired the text already knew.
Hydrology
Hydrologic Cycle - Ecclesiastes 1:7; Isaiah 55:10
Evaporation - Psalms 135:7; Jeremiah 10:13
Condensation Nuclei - Proverbs 8:26
Condensation - Job 26:8; 37:11, 16
Precipitation - job 36:26-28
Run-off - Job 28:10
Oceanic Reservoir - Psalms 33:7
Snow - Job 38:22; Psalms 147:16
Hydrologic Balance - Job 28:24-26
Springs in the Sea - Job 38:16
Geology
Principle of Isostasy - Isaiah 40:12; Psalm 104:5-9
Shape of Earth - Isaiah 40:22; Job 26:10; Psalm
Rotation of Earth - 103:12
Gravitation - Job 38:12,14
Rock Erosion - Job 26:7; 38:6
Glacial Period - Job 14:18,19
Uniformitarianism - Job 38:29,30
Dinosaurs - II Peter 3:4, Job 40,41
Astronomy
Size of Universe - Job 11:7-9; 22:12; Isaiah
Number of Stars - 55:9;Jeremiah 31:37
Uniqueness of Each Star - Genesis 22:17; Jeremiah 33:22
Precision of Orbits - I Corinthians 15:41, Jeremiah 31:35,36
Meteorology
Circulation of Atmosphere - Ecclesiastes 1:6
Protective Effect of Atmosphere - Isaiah 40:22
Oceanic Origin of Rain - Ecclesiastes 1:7
Relation of Electricity to Rain - Job 28:26; Jeremiah 10:13
Fluid Dynamics - Job 28:25
Biology
Blood Circulation - Leviticus 17:11
Psychotherapy - Proverbs 16:24; 17:22
Biogenesis and Stability - Genesis 1:11,21,25
Uniqueness of Man - Genesis 1:26
Chemical Nature of Flesh - Genesis 1:11,24-2:7;3:19
Cave-men - Job 12:23-25; 30:3-8
Physics
Mass-Energy Equivalence - Colossians 1:17; Hebrews 1:3
Source of Energy for Earth - Psalms 19:6
Atomic Disintegration - II Peter 3:10
Electrical Transmission of Information - Job 38:35
Television - Revelation 11:9-11
Rapid Transportation - Daniel 12:4
31 Sentences on the creation of the universe, 66 accepted books, 26 Hidden books worthy of a reading, most in the structure of a great poem; gives simplified truths of sciences which only took 2,000 years to learn and takes over 50,000 books to say the same truths. If you take the Hebrew text and use number sequencing there is hidden messages and prophecy (Bible Codes) found deep within the structure of the text volume. It is the greatest text ever written by man, and could only have be inspired by something of someone greater then ourselves.
You try to write about the whole of creation of the universe, history of man, explain a concept of a creator, and tell future events. Keep it under 1,800 pages, construct it in the form of a poem, and hide predictions hidden in the placing of the individual placement of the letters in the text structure. If you think you can and do it then I will believe in the nonbelievers right to feel that they can ridicule the Bible. But I know that you can not produce a book that is as amazing as the works in the Old Testament in Hebrew.
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11-04-2009, 11:15 AM #51Senior Member
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11-04-2009, 11:24 AM #52Junior Member
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I agree with you jamesmusslewhite!
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11-04-2009, 11:38 AM #53Junior Member
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the bible told of huge animals living amongst men... it was not named dinosaur since it was before science coined the term. Originally Posted by Ramini
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11-04-2009, 12:01 PM #54Junior Member
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Yes. That is right. The Bible refers to many the common animals we know today. The list includes lions, wolves, bears, sheep, cattle and dogs along with various kinds of birds, rodents, reptiles, and insects. What is interesting is that this extensive list includes three animals that we no longer recognize. These three are (in the original Hebrew language) tanniyn, behemoth (yes, it’s spelled correctly—at least as close as we can get in Roman characters), and leviathan. Originally Posted by Ger
The word “dinosaur” was originally coined in 1841, more than three thousand years after the Bible first referred to “Tanniyn.”
Tanniyn occurs 28 times in the Bible and is normally translated “dragon.”
Behemoth and Leviathan are relatively specific creatures, perhaps each was a single kind of animal. Tanniyn is a more general term, and it can be thought of as the original version of the word “dinosaur.”
Behemoth has the following attributes according to Job 40:15-24
It “eats grass like an ox.”
It “moves his tail like a cedar.” (In Hebrew, this literally reads, “he lets hang his tail like a cedar.”)
Its “bones are like beams of bronze,
His ribs like bars of iron.”
“He is the first of the ways of God.”
“He lies under the lotus trees,
In a covert of reeds and marsh.”
“He is the first of the ways of God.” This phrase in the original Hebrew implied that behemoth was the biggest animal created. Although an elephant or a hippopotamus are big, they are less than one-tenth the size of a Brachiosaurus, the largest (complete) dinosaur ever discovered.[1] A Brachiosaurus could therefore easily be described as “the first of the ways of God.”
Leviathan has the following attributes according to Job chapter 41, Psalm 104:25,26 and Isaiah 27:1.
“No one is so fierce that he would dare stir him up.”
“Who can open the doors of his face, with his terrible teeth all around?”
“His rows of scales are his pride, shut up tightly as with a seal; one is so near another that no air can come between them; they are joined one to another, they stick together and cannot be parted.”
“His sneezings flash forth light, and his eyes are like the eyelids of the morning. Out of his mouth go burning lights; sparks of fire shoot out. Smoke goes out of his nostrils, as from a boiling pot and burning rushes. His breath kindles coals, and a flame goes out of his mouth.”
“Though the sword reaches him, it cannot avail; nor does spear, dart, or javelin. He regards iron as straw, and bronze as rotten wood. The arrow cannot make him flee; slingstones become like stubble to him. Darts are regarded as straw; he laughs at the threat of javelins.”
“On earth there is nothing like him, which is made without fear.”
Leviathan “played” in the “great and wide sea” (a paraphrase of Psalm 104 verses 25 and 26—get the exact sense by reading them yourself).
Leviathan is a “reptile [a] that is in the sea.” (Isaiah 27:1)
It is hard to read Job 41:18-21 without realizing the Bible is telling us that Leviathan breathes fire. That alone will eliminate almost every living animal.
If you have time, you may read Dinosaurs and the Bible for more info
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11-04-2009, 12:37 PM #55Senior Member
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Look up: The artifacts found in the Ica Vally, Peru Originally Posted by Ramini
Ica Carved Stones
Ica Dinosaur Pottery
American Dinosaur Wall Drawings
South American Dinosaur Mythologies
North American Dinosaur Mythologies
They all must have been sniffing the same stuff, lots of cultures, and for a long time. Or maybe they SAW SOMETHING for themselves. And if they did see Dinosaurs only a thousand years ago and showed them in anatomically correct size proportions to humans; than what does that say about the smug elitist science that has fed us a huge pile of crap, just so they could try to destroy the Bible. Science hides that which would bring down their flimsy House of Cards, they would rather believe their own lies, than accept a probable truth. The evidence is there but too many reputations, scientific theories, grant monies, and careers are on the line. Science and the Bible are the same, the problem are the assholes who use it for their own agenda on both side of the debate that separates them. I believe the truths are distorted on both side by hidden agenda, and only by accepting the truth is actually in the middle and then you can cut through the neck-high crap. Both are the same the Bible text and scientific facts, man's agendas and false pride is the problem.
There is a THIRD TRUTH and most are too ignorant to see what is right in their face, they are just to weak to brake free from their own delusions and false pride. Most may think me crazy, but I see what you can not accept; it does not make me smarter or more cleaver then others, merely more enlightened. Or crazy as a loon.
Open your mind to the possibility that there may be very well another truth, and then research that truth. Then you can be freed from that lie and be enlightened. Enlightenment is a life long endeavor of open minded thought and possibilities, when one starts down the road of close mindedness then enlightenment is lost.
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11-04-2009, 12:57 PM #56C.I.A.
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you guys must be confused.. the scientific movement began in the 15th century.. Originally Posted by blue_ice
a religious book may seem to contain scientific principles, but its not considered scientific principles.. its more like you are interpreting what you have read in religious books to be similar to our modern scientific principles..
the bible is not scientific.. and it certainly does not contain scientific principles. you are confusing what scientific principles with statement that may sound scientific just because you are now able to associate it with current scientific studies..
go back in time before the 15th century, and tell me if you are still able to claim that the bible contains scientific principles..
are you aware how scientific principles are formed or founded even?
did copernicus or kepler show how the planets revolve around the sun by consulting scientific principles in the Bible? did galileo show his mechanics by consulting scientific principles in the Bible? Did Darwin consult the Bible by showing his principle of Natural selection? Did the scientists formulate their scientific principles by consulting the Bible of such? this is hilarious..
you're trying to make something out of the Bible, when its not.. its a religious book.. pure and simple..
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11-04-2009, 03:00 PM #57Junior Member
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You are totally insane... You just keep on talking without presenting any facts to substantiate your point! hahaha.... Originally Posted by bluedes
you guys must be confused.. the scientific movement began in the 15th century..
a religious book may seem to contain scientific principles, but its not considered scientific principles.. its more like you are interpreting what you have read in religious books to be similar to our modern scientific principles..
the bible is not scientific.. and it certainly does not contain scientific principles. you are confusing what scientific principles with statement that may sound scientific just because you are now able to associate it with current scientific studies..
go back in time before the 15th century, and tell me if you are still able to claim that the bible contains scientific principles.. are you aware how scientific principles are formed or founded even?
did copernicus or kepler show how the planets revolve around the sun by consulting scientific principles in the Bible? did galileo show his mechanics by consulting scientific principles in the Bible? Did Darwin consult the Bible by showing his principle of Natural selection? Did the scientists formulate their scientific principles by consulting the Bible of such? this is hilarious..
you're trying to make something out of the Bible, when its not.. its a religious book.. pure and simple..
Want me to name some scientists
??
Let's start with,
Johannes Kepler
Do you know him?
Johannes Kepler (IPA: [ˈkʰɛplɐ]) (December 27, 1571 – November 15, 1630) was a German mathematician, astronomer and astrologer, and key figure in the 17th century scientific revolution.
... Kepler lived in an era when there was no clear distinction between astronomy and astrology, but there was a strong division between astronomy (a branch of mathematics within the liberal arts) and physics (a branch of natural philosophy). Kepler also incorporated religious arguments and reasoning into his work, motivated by the religious conviction that God had created the world according to an intelligible plan that is accessible through the natural light of reason
(Johannes Kepler - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia)
"Geometry is one and eternal shining in the mind of God. That share in it accorded to men is one of the reasons that Man is the image of God." (related to Genesis 1:27 of the Holy Bible)
— Johannes Kepler
Conversation with the Sidereal Messenger [an open letter to Galileo Galilei], Dissertatio cum Nuncio Sidereo (1610), in Johannes Kepler Gesammelte Werke (1937- ), Vol. 4, 308, ll. 9-10.
Geometry, which before the origin of things was coeternal with the divine mind and is God himself (for what could there be in God which would not be God himself?), supplied God with patterns for the creation of the world, and passed over to Man along with the image of God; and was not in fact taken in through the eyes. (related to Genesis 1:27 of the Holy bible)
— Johannes Kepler
Harmonice Mundi, The Harmony of the World (1619), book IV, ch. 1. Trans. E. J. Aiton, A. M. Duncan and J. V. Field (1997), 304.
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Another outstanding scientist, Galileo Galilei (1564-1642) wrote a Letter to the Grand Duchess Christina. It was an essay on the relation between the revelations of the Bible and the new discoveries then being made in science.
Letter to the Grand Duchess Christina - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
(Modern History Sourcebook: Galileo: Letter to Grand Duchess)
And by the way, who is Galileo Galilei?
Galileo has been called the "father of modern observational astronomy,"[6] the "father of modern physics,"[7] the "father of science,"[7] and "the Father of Modern Science."[8] Stephen Hawking says, "Galileo, perhaps more than any other single person, was responsible for the birth of modern science."[9]
(Galileo Galilei - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia)
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MESSAGE FOR bluedes:
YOUR POINTS ARE BASELESS WITHOUT FACTS.
HEHEHEHE.... STUDY HARDER AND REVIEW YOUR LESSONS UI...
EVEN THE FATHER OF SCIENCE, GALILEO GALILEI SAID
"... For since every truth is in agreement with all other truth, the truth of Holy Writ cannot be contrary to the solid reasons and experiences of human knowledge."
Galileo Galilei: Letter to the Grand Duchess Christina of Tuscany, 1615
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11-04-2009, 04:12 PM #58Junior Member
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you had it the other way around brother, and dont think of the bible as some mere scriptures put together by men... science and the bible did not coincide by accident... it was later that scientist found out that it was so... think about it basin maka-ubo napud ka anang tinuohan nimo. Originally Posted by bluedes
you guys must be confused.. the scientific movement began in the 15th century..
a religious book may seem to contain scientific principles, but its not considered scientific principles.. its more like you are interpreting what you have read in religious books to be similar to our modern scientific principles..
the bible is not scientific.. and it certainly does not contain scientific principles. you are confusing what scientific principles with statement that may sound scientific just because you are now able to associate it with current scientific studies..
go back in time before the 15th century, and tell me if you are still able to claim that the bible contains scientific principles.. are you aware how scientific principles are formed or founded even?
did copernicus or kepler show how the planets revolve around the sun by consulting scientific principles in the Bible? did galileo show his mechanics by consulting scientific principles in the Bible? Did Darwin consult the Bible by showing his principle of Natural selection? Did the scientists formulate their scientific principles by consulting the Bible of such? this is hilarious..
you're trying to make something out of the Bible, when its not.. its a religious book.. pure and simple..
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11-04-2009, 04:17 PM #59Senior Member
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This certainly was an interesting Post, it was almost Medieval Originally Posted by bluedes
you guys must be confused.. the scientific movement began in the 15th century..
More than 400 years after Biblical writtings.
a religious book may seem to contain scientific principles, but its not considered scientific principles.. its more like you are interpreting what you have read in religious books to be similar to our modern scientific principles..
You may not consider them scientific principles, but they are there still the same.
the bible is not scientific.. and it certainly does not contain scientific principles. you are confusing what scientific principles with statement that may sound scientific just because you are now able to associate it with current scientific studies..
That is a statement of classic denial. If it looks like a rabbit, feels like a rabbit, smells like a rabbit, and acts like a rabbit; than ignoring it does not change the fact that it probably is a rabbit.
go back in time before the 15th century, and tell me if you are still able to claim that the bible contains scientific principles.. are you aware how scientific principles are formed or founded even?
Yes, I sat in a couple of classes. Funny I never remember ignore everything as a basis for formulating a Hypnotist.
did Copernicus or kepler show how the planets revolve around the sun by consulting scientific principles in the Bible? did galileo show his mechanics by consulting scientific principles in the Bible? Did Darwin consult the Bible by showing his principle of Natural selection? Did the scientists formulate their scientific principles by consulting the Bible of such? this is hilarious..
Nope, to help discover what was already in the text, first the science has to be created and the discoveries discovered before they could be understand what was written in the text. Biblical text ranges from 3,300 and 1,900 years ago depending on the text and source, and Copernicus made his discovery in 1512. How many more discovery could the man have made if narrow-minded bigoted fools did not try to tell him what people should only see in the bible during his time? Those narrow-minded bigoted fools who just could not see the science staring them from within those text. They only wanted to censor and control what knowledge could and should be see in the text during those times called the Dark Ages.
Boy it is sure nice that we do not have such narrow-minded bigoted fools trying to do that these days. That would be a sign that the pure ignorance of the Dark Ages still exist in the age of modern science. Would you not agree?
you're trying to make something out of the Bible, when its not.. its a religious book.. pure and simple..
Well if it looks like a rabbit? So you are saying we should choose to try to ignore everything as you would like to do?
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whoa!!! girahanay nanig bible history ron!
basaha ra gud ninyo ang Modern Testament of the New Bible: 1 Obama 3: 5
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