You can be a moral person without God...

[schmuck]

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bro, this question is like "which is true COLOR".

ang cuisine bro kay magdepende sa mukaon og ang gusto sa mukaon.

ako kay gusto nako dili halang nga food pero naay tao gusto og halang nga food, pasabot ba ana ako sakto kung ako pangutan-on nya siya pud sakto kung siya ang pangutan-on?


Pero kung hisgot tag bible or belief, diha nato ma check kung kinsay sakto kay ang output ato basehan.

example : Christian compare to Buddhist, Islam or Pagan we can compare them their doctrine and their execution of their doctrine.

Then from Christian and professing Christian, we can compare who follow Jesus Christ through works and words.

Peace!

is it safe to conclude nga mao ni imong view,
dili mo matter kung christian, muslim, buddhist, etc as long as nindot/sakto ang output?

[rcruman]

is it safe to conclude nga mao ni imong view,
dili mo matter kung christian, muslim, buddhist, etc as long as nindot/sakto ang output?

Bro I think its clear I've used the word "COMPARE".

We have different doctrine so the output will differ.

again balik ta sa cookbook, kung gusto kag spicy nga food diba palit kag cookbook nga spicy ang sulod?
so pananglitan imo gipalit kay pasta nga cookbook, maka-output ba ka og spicy nga food like Bicol Express or Thailand cuisine?

karon bro kung ang output kay Sweet foods, nya ang ako gidala kay Dessert nga cookbook nya imo kay Sushi cuisine, makahatag kaha ka sa output nga sweet food o dessert?


So kung ato dad-on sa atoang gihisgutan, kung God fearing person nya a good citizen ato gusto nga output unsa nga book ang makapagawas ana og klase nga tao?

ikaw nay pili, og ang tubag kay imoha na lang sa.


padayon ta.

Peace!

[schmuck]

liboga oi, akoi magbout kung unsa akong ganahan nga output?
buffet diay ang style?

[rcruman]

liboga oi, akoi magbout kung unsa akong ganahan nga output?
buffet diay ang style?

ang output nga imo gusto magdepende sa imo paliton or sundon nga cookbook.

bro schmuck, nice discussing with you.

I have to go, naa pa ko buhaton.

Till next time, if God willing.

Peace!

[chad_tukes]

exactly!
atheists impose their beliefs and think they are so smart. they don't realize they are going to hell lol

....then send me to hell.

the "hell" i care. are there beer volcanoes and clean stippers there too? that'd be awesome.

[chad_tukes]

Moral came from GOD, a good moral.

Without GOD we are nothing.

28 For in him we live, and move, and have our being; as certain also of your own poets have said, For we are also his offspring.
Acts 17:28

29 Lo, this only have I found, that God hath made man upright; but they have sought out many inventions.
Ecclesiastes 7:29

10 For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.
Ephesians 2:10

God is GOOD, everything from Him is good.

17 Every good gift and every perfect gift is from above, and cometh down from the Father of lights, with whom is no variableness, neither shadow of turning.
James 1:17

now the best part, can people say that the GOOD we know is from our own?
If from our own, HOW COME WE HAVE DIFFERENT DIFINITION OF GOOD?
OUR INDIVIDUAL or WE SEEMS its GOOD is DIFFER FROM EACH OTHER IF WE WONT BASE IT FROM GODS WORD?


Peace!

bro RC... musta bro, mingaw man ko nimo. kiss ko beh?

anyway, about morals bro... back read the thread---religion only teaches morals---it does not come from it.

ever heard of Zeitgeist bro?

[AmorsoloX]

biases of morality of actions
--- that is why abortion becomes right, after all fetus is not life.. thats what they call it enlightenment... hahaha!

Brad I dont buy your idea. If people cannot tell what is right and what is wrong... then it becomes... it is right to be wrong... and it is wrong to be right... it becomes chaos.

nope.. im not selling it.. im telling it...

kaw gud.. naa ra nimu.. kung padayun ka pa uto2x sa imu simbahan cge. go.. it doesnt concern me.. as long as dili ka magimpose anang imong tinuohan sa uban.. ayaw ni ipugos nga ikaw jud sakto..

the definition of right and wrong is abstract.. what is right to yoy maybe wrong to another.. the church has no monopoly on culture and beliefs..
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[blue_ice]

Then why need a god? Why go to church? Why pray?

Why We Need God

For the wages of sin is death, but the free gift of God
is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.
Romans 6:23

He gave His only begotten Son. The first verse tells us about the penalty for sin. Every person is guilty of some sin, some violation of God’s standard for what is right and wrong. The penalty for sin is death. All people die, and sin is the reason for it.

And He Himself bore our sins in His body on the cross, so that we might die to sin and live to righteousness; for by His wounds you were healed.
1 Peter 2:24

But the second verse tells us what it means that God gave His Son: Jesus died on the cross, taking the penalty of our sin on Himself. Imagine sin as a crime. On the cross, Jesus was convicted of every crime ever committed, and through His suffering, He carried out the death sentence for each conviction. We don’t have to pay the penalty for our sin—we can go free and enjoy the life God has for us!

[kebotDiNaMute]

nope.. im not selling it.. im telling it...

kaw gud.. naa ra nimu.. kung padayun ka pa uto2x sa imu simbahan cge. go.. it doesnt concern me.. as long as dili ka magimpose anang imong tinuohan sa uban.. ayaw ni ipugos nga ikaw jud sakto..

the definition of right and wrong is abstract.. what is right to yoy maybe wrong to another.. the church has no monopoly on culture and beliefs..
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mas maau ikaw motapak kay sa ikaw tapakan

hehehe, ako namugos sak2? nope! too bad... you are not reading! I always said, I DON"T EVEN CARE. but if you annoys us, kebot will mock...

I never imposed my belief brad, wa gani ni sila ka balu sa ako details... by the way im not selling my religion after all this is not a recruitment agency...

[blue_ice]

bro RC... musta bro, mingaw man ko nimo. kiss ko beh?

anyway, about morals bro... back read the thread---religion only teaches morals---it does not come from it.

ever heard of Zeitgeist bro?

Don't believe in the Zeitgeist propaganda.... full of lies..and full of crap....

Please read:
The Myth of Jesus: A Refutation of the Zeitgeist Debunking Atheism