The Second Coming of Christ... The Resurrection of Christ Within You

[Malic]

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like what rule?

there's no contradiction.. Just like my analogy.. wether there are other people in the elevator or not their presence doesn't change the fact that you are using the elevator to go up and down.

when you apply exegesis you must abide to some rules. There rules when one interprets a historical book from the bible and different rules when one interprets prophetic books.

Yes there is a contradiction. Now I know why you can't spot the difference. nice talking to you.

[amingb]

ayaw sa og abot sa Millennial reign ni Jesus kay layo na kaayo na.

its funny kay Christians have different views in eschatology. naay pre-tribulation naay post trib and etc.

going back to our discussion.


I think you are not well informed sa imong doktrina amingb or maybe naghunahuna ka nga dili nako ni masakpan kay dili ko christian? hehe.

Your idea that the Soldiers who pierced Jesus will witness his appearance during the rapture won't happen. The Soldiers were unbelievers. Sa panahon sa rapture there will be no resurrection of the ungodly. Jesus will only resurrect the old testament saints and believers and His church. The resurrection of the ungodly will take place during the great white throne judgment.

here is my back up...John F. MacArthur says...Did you know also that the ungodly will be resurrected and given some kind of a body in which to be tormented? Yes, Revelation, chapter 20, says that there will be a resurrection of the ungodly to the Great White Throne judgment. In John 5, Jesus said, there will be a resurrection of damnation and a resurrection of life--two parts.

The first resurrection was the resurrection of Jesus Christ; the resurrection of the Church saints at the Rapture; and the resurrection of the Old Testament saints at the Second Coming--those three form the first resurrection. The second resurrection is the resurrection of all the ungodly at the Great White Throne and it happens at one time.

So resurrection is for the physical body--the glorified body to be joined with the spirit that is already with the Lord.

so dili gihapon ma reconcile amingb...going back sa atong first discussion, nag contradict gihapon. in other words, those verses are still open for different interpretations.

Sige lang bro padayon ta kay nindot ni nga topic .... dili pako sure anang akoa kay daghan pako wa nasabtan .. nakabasa pud ko anang imong Pre-Trib or Post-Trib .... kini ako gi post is Post-Trib.


According to this verse : 1 Thessalonians 4:16 and 1 Corinthians 15:52

Its about The Dead Will Rise First .... wala gi mention if its the Godly or the Ungodly ....

[NapoleonBlownapart]

You must be thinking that because the angel said "in the same manner" it follows the same audience

[Pein]

Sige lang bro padayon ta kay nindot ni nga topic .... dili pako sure anang akoa kay daghan pako wa nasabtan .. nakabasa pud ko anang imong Pre-Trib or Post-Trib .... kini ako gi post is Post-Trib.


According to this verse : 1 Thessalonians 4:16 and 1 Corinthians 15:52

Its about The Dead Will Rise First .... wala gi mention if its the Godly or the Ungodly ....

sayop ka bro. dili Dead will rise first but the dead "in Christ".

1Th 4:16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:

kay kung ang dead ang mu rise, so tanang patay i resurrect. whats the use of the second resurrection?

[skoilhp]

The saviours of the world do not come to foster inimical doctrinal divisions... their teachings should not be used toward that end. It is something of a misnomer even to refer to the New Testament as the "Christian Bible", for it does not belong exclusively to any sect. Truth is meant for the blessing and upliftment of the entire human race. As the Christ Consciousness in universal so does Jesus Christ belong to all. -Paramahansa Yogananda


You know what, it is so sad to think, when Jesus went to India and Tibet and teach (not preach) some people there, He was very well accepted and all His teachings. What happened next... everything were preserved there, some people there during His time up to now know well about the Christ Consciousness of which Jesus taught to them. Mas maayo pa sila. When He went back to his country, gi question dayon ang iyang mga teachings, that is why very few people knew about them, just his 120 disciples. gi crucify pa gyud, d lang si Jesus, mismo iyahang mga original teachings.

Those who understand Christ Consciousness knew well the real Second Coming is not about the literal reappearance of Jesus to a group of people but the coming of the Christ Consciousness to every human being. Many people still waiting for the literal Second Coming, many generations had passed away, but some already experienced the Second Coming of Jesus in Christ Consciousness in them.

[cromagnon]

Possible mass extinction :
(as happened in the past )
animal armagedon

Meteor
Gamma Ray - from a super nova
thousand times volcanic eruption.

- most of them takes a long term destruction , by destroying the earth's atmosphere .

[Pein]

The saviours of the world do not come to foster inimical doctrinal divisions... their teachings should not be used toward that end. It is something of a misnomer even to refer to the New Testament as the "Christian Bible", for it does not belong exclusively to any sect. Truth is meant for the blessing and upliftment of the entire human race. As the Christ Consciousness in universal so does Jesus Christ belong to all. -Paramahansa Yogananda


You know what, it is so funny to think, when Jesus went to India and Tibet and teach (not preach) some people there, He was very well accepted and all His teachings. What happened next... everything were preserved there, some people there during His time up to now know well about the Christ Consciousness of which Jesus taught to them. Mas maayo pa sila. When He went back to his country, gi question dayon ang iyang mga teachings, that is why very few people knew about them, just his 120 disciples. gi crucify pa gyud, d lang si Jesus, mismo iyahang mga original teachings.

Those who understand Christ Consciousness knew well the real Second Coming is not about the literal reappearance of Jesus to a group of people but the coming of the Christ Consciousness to every human being. Many people still waiting for the literal Second Coming, many generations had passed away, but some already experienced the Second Coming of Jesus in Christ Consciousness in them.

ni adto si Jesus Christ sa India ug Tibet? toinks!

[Pein]

Possible mass extinction :
(as happened in the past )
animal armagedon

Meteor
Gamma Ray - from a super nova
thousand times volcanic eruption.

- most of them takes a long term destruction , by destroying the earth's atmosphere .

yes possible kaayo na. ang mga tawo nga dili mutuo nga matapos ang kalibutan nagpakabuta nalang jud sa sitwasyon nga atong nakita karon. kay kung dili jud matapos ang kalibutan, mga bugo diay ning mga scientists ug mga politicians noh nga gasige ug campaign about climate change?

[amingb]

sayop ka bro. dili Dead will rise first but the dead "in Christ".

1Th 4:16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:

kay kung ang dead ang mu rise, so tanang patay i resurrect. whats the use of the second resurrection?

Sorry bro wala nako na butang ang in "in Christ" .... sayop ko ,,,, pasabot Dead In Christ is the Godly ... sakto to kang bro Malic that the ungodly will ressurect during the second resurrection.

The resurrection of the righteous takes place at Christ's return, but that of the uncalled—the second resurrection—will occur in the Great White Throne Judgment after the Millennium

[Pein]

Sorry bro wala nako na butang ang in "in Christ" .... sayop ko ,,,, pasabot Dead In Christ is the Godly ... sakto to kang bro Malic that the ungodly will ressurect during the second resurrection.

The resurrection of the righteous takes place at Christ's return, but that of the uncalled—the second resurrection—will occur in the Great White Throne Judgment after the Millennium

no problem bro. additional verses lang...

Rev 20:5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.

Rev 20:6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.

blessed ug holy diay tong maapil sa first resurrection. meaning, dili blessed ug dili holy diay tong dili maapil sa first resurrection...