Kenya witchcraft- another terrifying human act

[jamesmusslewhite]

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i dont think that would matter much then... his people reducing me to ashes. perhaps their god was intending someone to choke or get pneumonia from my ashes.

"...choking on the ashes of her enemies." sabi ni kurt cobain

I do not think you are an evil force, nor do I believe you should be treated like a Lechon. That was a command to Jews of a time over 3,000 years ago. Jesus never made said burn a witch and he freed men of demons. Problem is Christians do not learn the history, laws, covenants, or their place in the scriptures. I would not burn you.

Maybe burn one with you, then sit back with you and talk about the universe.

[vulture08]

wat an awfull death......Naunsa naman intawn ni kalibutan oie...

[Malic]

I'm going to do this quick. I have other things to do.

It was God's command to the Jew to dirve out and kill witches which plagued the land of that time. To destroy the evil works of Satan. You know well what they meant before you asked. You are so deceptive in you act of innocence.

yep i had some idea. but i need a clear answer from you. your previous replies were mudded by unecessary side comments.

and in response to this, i did say that "its terrible"

Exodus 22:18 says, "Suffer not a witch to live." Deuteronomy 18:10 says, "There shall not be found among you any one that maketh his son or his daughter to pass through the fire, or that useth divination, or an observer of times, or an enchanter, or a witch."

God is very clear here, he doesn't want witches (or as they call themselves today, 'Wiccans') to live. We are supposed to be killing witches! If we don't, we are disobeying God.

there you go folks. They are commanded by God to kill witches. Very dangerous doctrine. Witches had a different view of spirituality and it's too bad they have no freedom to express it. The bible god is really is a jealous God with a bad temper. You don't worship me? you die!

No you are trying to get the answer that you want, and not the one that I have for you. And sometimes you are hard to follow. You demand answers yet very rarely answer those asked of you. This must just be a Filipino thing that is beyond this Kano's understanding. I talk to people from all over this world over 100 countries, and never seem to have this problem except with only a few members on this forum. Most will answer questions as well as demand answers.

of course, because i want an honest answer from you. One that is not mired by ad hominems.
Yes james I rarely answer questions that is propelled by anger. Well, we are different, we cannot be manipulated into answering questions structured to squeezed a particular answer from the questioner.

I answer straight forward questions, and if I miss one hidden somewhere in you post. You ask the question again, and not act like a pompous ass. why is that so difficult

no james, i did asked those questions many times already.

No just communicate better and it will be easier on both of us. Sorry I only speak English which is probably most of this misunderstanding.

james, this is about you. You were trying to used islam as a diversion and you were throwing ad hominems at me, this isn't about communication. nice try but its not working james. try harder.

[Malic]

Tithing is a biblical law. But so is circumcision and so is the sacrificing of animals. Does this mean that Christians today should ritualistically circumcise their children or sacrifice animals because these laws were once ordained in the Bible? Most Christians would not think such Old Testament legislation is obligatory for Christians who live in this age. And the Bible makes it clear that such ritualistic practices are not required any longer.

Let us face the issue squarely without beating around the bush. The Bible makes it clear (from the time of Moses onward) that Israelites were to pay tithe. But in doing so, they were strictly ordered by God to pay the tithe (the tenth) to one group of people, and one group only. To whom was the tithe to be paid? They were the Levites who (among other things) ministered in the Temple. Note Numbers 18:21,

"And, behold, I have given the children of Levi all the tenth in Israel for an inheritance, for their service of the tabernacle of the congregation."

It was made abundantly plain that the biblical tithe was to be paid to the tribe of Levi, one of the twelve tribes of ancient Israel. In this initial law of tithing, no one else had the slightest authority to receive that tithe. Even Christ Jesus, while he was teaching on earth, did not use (nor did he demand) a penny of biblical tithe to fund his preaching activities or those of his apostles. After all, our Lord was descended in an adoptive way from Judah (Hebrews 7:14). He was not a Levite. This made him ineligible to receive any part of the biblical tithe that was ordained for use by the Levites at the time of Moses. For this reason, Christ did not use any tithe money to support his ministry.
The central fact was this: Only members of the tribe of Levi were at first ordained in the Bible to receive the tithe (the tenth). The Levites in turn were to give one tenth of that tithe to the Priests (Numbers 18:25–2 who did not tithe at all. In our modern age, however, even the Levites and Priests are disqualified from receiving any biblical tithe because there is no official body of men functioning as Levites.
Since there is no Temple in existence, there are also no Levites and Priests serving in the Temple. The tithe at first was brought into play by Moses to maintain the service of the Temple. With no Temple, the major factor for tithe paying does not exist as far as the biblical laws of tithing are concerned. For preachers and church leaders to change the direction of paying the tithe from that of the Temple to the service of a Christian ministry is to do so without any authority whatever from God. In fact, to use the tithing laws in a manner not sanctioned by the Word of God is to sin against biblical law. And that is what the preachers, priests and evangelists are doing today.


The Old Testament was the law for the 12 tribes who were descendants of Abraham. And are binding laws of God's covenants with the Jews. And yes he is a vengeful and demanding God, The Jews, Christians, and Muslims all pray to the same God. The God of Abraham. When Abraham implored God in 14:40, he did not ask for wealth or health; the gift he implored for was: "Please God, make me one who observes the contact prayers (Salat) The proof that Salat was already established through Abraham is found in 8:35, 9:54, 16:123, & 21:73.



I am no member of any man made religion. I am a Born Again Gentile and a follower of the Christ and the teachings of the New Testament; I am a member of Christ's Universal Church and fellowship with members of the Universal Church. I need no Temple, church, or Mosque because God and Christ live within the temple of the body. Most men never understand that, because they need buildings, robes, chants, and rituals so they can try to feel closer to God. I only need to close my eyes and pray. I can pray in a closet and be with God. Christ told me to pray in a closet, and told the Jewish religious authority to tear down their temple. I follow the New Testament. I give my praise to God and my troubles to Christ. I am a true Born Again Christan. Yes I fear my God "Aravat" who is beyond the understanding of man, who loved me enough to sacrifice his son so that I could have salvation. I owe my salvation to "Aravat's" Grace and to the Christ who is my doorway to that salvation. I have embraced God's grace and will gladly die to proclaim his name. I will only die once and will not suffer the second death of the Final Judgment. No man on this earth has the right to judge me, as I have no right to judge another man.


I can not live in man's churches, Temples, and Mosques because they are corrupted by the innocent blood shed by evil acts and twisted by Satan's deceit, He wants to deceive you because he wants to destroy your soul, body, and mind. I do not live under that burden of Satan's treachery, because I am aware and he has no power over me. Some can say "I do not believe in Satan" "Satan is a concept and not a being." Wrong, and that makes you a fool. He is a being who has deceived and corrupted the world. That is why his corrupts his children despise me, because he knows I can see through that Vail of deception. I give them no assistance or support, and I spit them out of my mouth.


I am only responsible for my own sins, and share no sin of evil religions and evil men. I am a true Born Again follower of Christ and love my Father "Aravat" the name of god before Mohamed, Moses, Abraham, Noah and the Great Flood, to the time of the First Creation. The God of Enoch who saw him on his throne in all his glory and his angles at his feet. I have read the books and know the laws and know my place in those laws. You do not and that is why you are confused and say silly things with no understanding. I am beyond you, and am not bound by you. I am free.

wow...what a lengthy answer for a simple question "do you tithe james"?

im disappointed, i read everything and i find no answer to my question. But this is what I think. I think that you are trying to justify your guilt james.

Is my simple question weighing you down james? just say so, you know i can drop this anytime. I think i'll drop this here. I rather spend my time on other things. you are evading questions many times already and you are so good at throwing ad hominems.

"i am beyond you and am not bound by you"- jamsemusslewhite. hmm getting paranoid huh? that's scary.

bye james and have a nice day. So witches you better hide and do it now...hehe!

[chad_tukes]

...and people all along thinks RELIGION brings out the best in people.

[chad_tukes]

btw, nice website posted by the TS... i most certainly didn't enjoy watching the pics.

[jamesmusslewhite]

wow...what a lengthy answer for a simple question "do you tithe james"?

Simple answers would be possible. But the simpleton that I am talking to will not tell me what this question actually is. Or is it because you did not get the exact answer you were trying to manipulate. I still refuse to re-write this question down. Why? Too difficult of a task for you to do? It could also be that you have a preconceived bias concept of what the answer should be, and you are wrong and just do not like the truth. I think I answered you question, but you just did not like the answer because you realized your thinking was wrong. You are not man enough to accept it, and have to respond as a child. That if you actually wrote this question, It would show that I did answer it, and you know it.

im disappointed, i read everything and i find no answer to my question. But this is what I think. I think that you are trying to justify your guilt james.

You are always going to be disappointed, that is the price of ignorance. WHAT QUESTION?
My Guilt? Born Again Christians do not burn or kill witches, so their is "NO GUILT". Catholics, Protestants, and Islamic followers do. "YOU HAVE GUILT!"

Is my simple question weighing you down james? just say so, you know i can drop this anytime. I think i'll drop this here. I rather spend my time on other things. you are evading questions many times already and you are so good at throwing ad hominems.

WHAT QUESTION?? It is hard to an unknown Question. You can not spend your time trying down this question? and it is argumentum ad hominem and it is used and not thrown.

"i am beyond you and am not bound by you"- jamsemusslewhite. hmm getting paranoid huh? that's scary.

I am beyond you and not bound by you, that is just a fact. I have no Paranoia, I have faced my fears and demons and defeated them long ago. If I were to have Paranoia over someone, it would not be over a fly speck on a forum. I am not anomusly hiding behind cute login names and pretending to be something that I am not That is your game son.

bye james and have a nice day. So witches you better hide and do it now...hehe

Every day for me is blessed. Witches have nothing to fear from me. I am neither Catholics, Protestants, and Islamic. They are the ones killing witches.

Sorry I can not read your mind and once again you choose not to tell me what this illusive question actually is, that you wanted answered. I asked you to, but you choose no to comply to a simple request. You could have just typed that question down, again.

witches have nothing to fear from me, I have actually read the book and know that command is not directed to me. I have the common sense not to be driven to an evil act and then try to hide behind religion. Born Again Christians do not burn or kill witches. Catholics, Protestants, and Islamic followers do; even as we speak, by the hundreds in both Africa, Indonesia, and other countries such as Saudi Arabia.

True followers of Jesus do not this path of ignorance. Catholics, Protestants, and Islamic followers kill too many people in this world to be considered righteous religions. Corrupt man made entities that will be harshly punished in the end. Jesus is salvation and the righteous path.

[Malic]

Sorry I can not read your mind and once again you choose not to tell me what this illusive question actually is, that you wanted answered. I asked you to, but you choose no to comply to a simple request. You could have just typed that question down, again.

witches have nothing to fear from me, I have actually read the book and know that command is not directed to me. I have the common sense not to be driven to an evil act and then try to hide behind religion. Born Again Christians do not burn or kill witches. Catholics, Protestants, and Islamic followers do; even as we speak, by the hundreds in both Africa, Indonesia, and other countries such as Saudi Arabia.

True followers of Jesus do not this path of ignorance. Catholics, Protestants, and Islamic followers kill too many people in this world to be considered righteous religions. Corrupt man made entities that will be harshly punished in the end. Jesus is salvation and the righteous path.

the question? haha. its right in front of you. But just leave it. i know that you are evading the question.

its not a question of what denomination is responsible for the death of witches. You all worship the same God, who ordered to "suffer not a witch to live" (im borrowing the words from the bible).

[jamesmusslewhite]

the question? haha. its right in front of you. But just leave it. i know that you are evading the question.

its not a question of what denomination is responsible for the death of witches. You all worship the same God, who ordered to "suffer not a witch to live" (im borrowing the words from the bible).

Yes that is best. You just seem not to want to retype your so called simple question. And therefor it is impossible to answer that which I do not understand what you are seeking.

Or I did answer it and you are just too prideful to admit it, which is probably the case. That is why you can not retype what you did not type in the first place or which I have already answered..

Yes you are a waist of time. Too many stupid child's games.

[bluevenderlac]

hala naunsa oi, kasakit ana oi gikulata pa gyud =(